PC - Item 3A - Minutes 10-02-09Minutes of the
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
November 2, 2009
The regular meeting of the Rosemead Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairwoman Herrera at 7:00 p.m., in the Council Chambers, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard,
Rosemead, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Chairwoman Herrera
INVOCATION - Commissioner Eng
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS PRESENT - Commissioners Eng_;; Hunter, Ruiz, Vice-
Chairman Alarcon, Chairwoman Herrera
OFFICIALS PRESENT: City Attorney Greg Murphy, Principal Planner:Bermejo,
Commission Secretary Lockwood
1. EXPLANATION OF HEARING PROCEDURES AND APPEAL RIGHTS;
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, presented the procedure`s a'hd appeal rights of the meeting.
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Marlene Shinen, stated that she is pleased--.with Principal' Planner Bermejo. She
thanked Principal Planner Bermejo for her,trustwoithiness. ` She also thanked her staff
for all the work that they-,have'done.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval of Minutes Oct66er_19,.2009
Commissioner Eng had corrections on page 3 paragraphs 6, 7, & 8, on page 4,
paragraph 11, and needed clarification on Matters from the Chairwoman &
Commissioners on page 9.
Commissioner. Ruiz stated that POST stands for Peace Officer Standardized Training.
Commissioner Nancy Eng made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Victor
Ruiz, to approve the' Minutes of 10-19-09 with corrections.
Vote resulted in:
Yes: Alarcon, Eng, Herrera, Hunter, Ruiz
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. MUNICIPAL CODE AMENDMENT 09-02, AMENDING CHAPTER 13.08 OF THE
ROSEMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE (WATER EFFICIENT LANDSCAPING
REGULATIONS) TO COMPLY WITH STATE ASSEMBLY BILL 1881 -
Municipal Code Amendment 09-02 is a City initiated amendment that
proposes to amend Chapter 13.08 of the Rosemead Municipal Code (Water
Efficient Landscaping Regulations) to comply with State Assembly Bill 1881
(AB 1881). AB 1881 requires all cities in the State to monitor the water use
for irrigation of grass, trees and other plants in landscaped areas on certain
kinds of properties and public facilities. The proposed municipal code
amendment will be applicable to:
1. New landscape installations or landscape rehabilitation projects by public
agencies or private non-residential developers, ,excep'tfor cemeteries, with a
landscaped area, including water features but excluding hardscape, equal to
or greater than 2,500 square feet;
2. New landscape installations or _,landscape 'rehabilitation ; projects by
developers or property managers 4' single=family and 'multi-family
residential projects or complexes with a landscaped area, including water
features but excluding hardscape, equal to or'geater than 2,500 square feet;
and
3. New landscape installations '.that are„t;homeowner-installed, including
homeowner-hired, in single-family,or,multi-family residential lots with a total
project landscaped- area equal toi-wog greater, than 5,000 square feet. PC
RESOLUTION,09-21 - :,RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY: OF~'ROSEM_EAD, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, STATE OF
CALIFORNIA "RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AMEND
CHAPTER 13.08{"6F,THE,ROSEMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE TO ESTABLISH
WATER EFFICIENT`LANDSCAPE-REGULATIONS.
Recommendat"on ;Staffirecommends that the Planning Commission ADOPT
Resolution No. 09=21, a't'i solution recommending that the City Council
ADOP.,T,Ordinance, No. 885 and "Guidelines for the Implementation of
the City of Rosemead Water Efficient Landscape Ordinance", amending
Chapter '13.08 of.the Rosemead Municipal Code with respect to water
efficient landscaping regulations.
Principal Planner Bermejo presented a Power Point presentation and staff report. She
also stated that a sentence needs to be added to Draft Ordinance, Exhibit B, Section
13.08.010 Purpose, which states, "The provisions of this chapter shall be deemed to be
controlling over the subject matter herein in the event of any conflict between this
Chapter and any other provision in the Municipal Code". She also stated in the
Guidelines there is bold text on page13, under number 6, and on page 15, under 2.8
Post-Installation Irrigation Scheduling, that needs to be removed.
City Attorney Murphy stated that the addition of this sentence will make sure that the
new ordinance has superiority over any other provision in the Municipal Code that could
be in conflict with the new ordinance.
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Chairwoman Herrera questioned staff if this draft ordinance was made to simplify the
states ordinance that they are proposing.
Principal Planner Bermejo replied yes, and confirmed that the proposed ordinance will
simplify the State's requirements.
Chairwoman Herrera questioned staff if the City of Rosemead already has a Water
Efficient Landscape Ordinance.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated the City does one. She also stated that it will become
void if the City does not amend it to incorporate the State's new=req'uirements.
Chairwoman Herrera questioned staff if the old requirements are out of date and less
restrictive. She also questioned staff if the new ordinance will' oencourage developers
and architects to limit the amount of landscaping they propose.
Principal Planner Bermejo replied that the,; City's Municipal Code'. ,has minimum
landscape requirements which will still be requi?ed<of projects.
Vice-Chairman Alarcon questioned staff if the certification personnel are independent
contractors or if they work for the water companies or architects.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated they would-,.be third party irrigation contractors and
landscape architect professionals hired byproperty.'owners or•developers.
Vice-Chairman Alarcon questioned staff if there was anyone from the Planning Division
who will check the reports.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that Planning-Division and Public Service staff will
check the submittals.
Vice-Chairman Alarcon questioned staff if these requirements would apply to someone
who was going to do a remodel on;.their home.
Principal Planner Bermetoreplied "ifjthe homeowner for a single family home was going
renovate ovee, 5 000 square feet of their landscaped area, then the property owner would
have to follow the_'.new requirements.
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Vice-Chairman Alarcon* revised his question and questioned staff if the existing home
already has 5,000 square feet, will they then have to follow the requirements.
Principal Planner Bermejo explained that the ordinance would only apply if the
homeowner renovates over 5,000 square feet of the landscaped area.
Commissioner Hunter stated that she wondered why our City does not have an
ordinance that requires alternate days for watering to save water, especially during the
summer. She also stated other cities have such requirements.
Principal Planner stated that the City of Rosemead does have a water conservation
ordinance, which is Chapter 13.04 of the Rosemead Municipal Code. She stated that
the ordinance provide several stages for water rationing, and that currently water
rationing is voluntary. She also stated that the City of Rosemead is in contact with the
water companies and officials from the water companies have indicated that our water
usage numbers are good. She also stated that the water companies use publications
and mailers to encourage property owners to conserve water.
Chairwoman Herrera stated that it must be working because she has seen a lot of
dry areas, so we must not be overwatering.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff if the ordinance will apply to existing projects and
irrigation systems in place that are over one acre.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that is correct.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff how many of those do we have.in the city.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that there are only a'few existing properties over an
acre that would be potentially affected by the new ordinance. She said that the City of
Rosemead Parks, Southern California Edisori`; ;and Wal'-Mart may be some of those
large existing sites. She also stated that staff will-have to survey the City and work with
the water companies to monitor their water usage forl'aridscaped areas. .
Commissioner Eng questioned staff if=we are going to g15era time period so that people
will have time to become in compliance with this ordinance. She='also stated that this will
be in effect in January 2010.
Principal Planner Bermejoreplied that existing landscapes over an acre will not be
required tore-do their irrigation systems. She also stated that they will be monitoring
them to make sure they are nof;wasting water.. She also stated they will work with the
water companies for monitoring assistance.
Comm issioner'Eng,ystated so they are not required to submit this whole package that is
being proposed for'thecnew installation in order to become into compliance.
Principal; Planner Bermejostated we will be looking at what their usage of water is and
working on.programs for them.
Commissioner Eng, questioned staff if we would be in compliance with this ordinance
if we let property owners; who have the expertise, install their own irrigation system so it
is cost effective fort.them. She also stated that with this ordinance it states the
certification of completion needs to be signed off by a licensed architect.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that under 1.2 Applicability in the guidelines they will
be able to do it themselves and there are other options of who would be able to sign off.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff if the building division inspectors would still inspect
projects for compliance.
Principal Planner Bermejo replied yes they will
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Commissioner Ruiz questioned staff if there will be a guideline so the homeowner
will have a step by step program to go by to get it certified.
Principal Planner Bermejo replied yes.
Commissioner Eng requested staff to clarify the grading requirement.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that large projects, such commercial developments or
land subdivisions, will have to submit a formal grading plan, but smaller projects that do
not have to do significant grading may submit a simplified version,-
Commissioner Eng referred to the draft ordinance in the applicability section and stated
that cemeteries are exempted in this ordinance. She questioned staff if schools and
religious institutions are subject to this ordinance.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that privatea schools, religious,jnstitutions, and
temples would be subject to this ordinance, but`a public school would have to follow the
State's requirements.
Chairwoman Herrera opened the Public Hearing and:`asked if there was anyone in favor
of the project.
Jim Flournoy questioned staff if this ordinance will consider two lots as one lot fora
project or if the two lots will be considered separately..
Principal Planner Bermejo:rstated that the, cumulativey area of project site will be
considered.
Jim Flournoy questioned if ; a new landscape project refers to the total new
landscape area,in a project or;the ezisting.area:
Principal Planner Bermejo questioned Mr. Flournoy what he was referring too.
Jim Flournoy, stated he Was referring to number 3 on the bottom of the second page of
the Plannih4,pommission Agenda.
Principal Planneif Bermejo referred to an example she used earlier and stated if you had
8,000 square feet-,pi landscaping and you modified 5,000 square feet of that you would
fall into that category and have to follow this ordinance.
Jim Flournoy questioned staff if orchards are categorized as edible plants.
Principal Planner stated yes they are.
Brian Lewin stated that he is glad to see an ordinance like this put into place considering
storm drains and all the water run off he sees. He also questioned if existing projects
will be grandfathered in, because there are a lot of irrigation run off issues. He also
questioned if existing businesses would eventually be required to modify their existing
irrigation systems to be in compliance with this ordinance.
City Attorney Murphy stated this actually is a question for the State and it is up to the
State at this point. He also stated we do not know what the State will do.
Brian Lewin questioned staff if the City has any plans at this time.
City Attorney Murphy and Principal Planner Bermejo stated no, not at this time.
Chairwoman Herrera stated is there anyone against this Ordinance.
None
Chairwoman Herrera closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff if the square footage of 2;500_ to 5,000 square feet,
is that the State's standard that we are following.
Principal Planner Bermejo replied yes..
Commissioner Victor Ruiz made a motion;'seconded by,,Vice-ChairmanWilliam
Alarcon, recommending that the Planning Commissi4on,"'ADOPT Resolution No. 09-
21, a resolution recommending that the City Coun'cilt:ADOPT Ordinance No. 885
and "Guidelines for the Implementation of the City of Rosemead Water
Efficient Landscape Ordinance", amending Chapter 1,3x08 of the Rosemead
Municipal Code with respect to water 'efficient Iandscapi"r g~regulations.
Vote resulted in:
Yes: Alarcon,Eng, Herrera, Hunter, Ruiz
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
5. MATTERS FROM'T,HE CHAIRWOMAN & COMMISSIONERS
None
6. MATTERS FROM THE`,PRINCIPAL PLANNER & STAFF
A. Annual WaI7Mart Review
Principal Planner Bermejo presented her staff report and PowerPoint presentation.
Chairwoman Herrera opened the item to the public and asked if there were any
questions.
Jim Flournoy stated that there are two items that he feels still need to be resolved; one is
the Alquist-Priolo report that was used and submitted to the State of California. He also
stated that Wal-Mart and the Panda Restaurant used the 1998 building code, but feels
that Wal-Mart did not meet the standards of the 1998 building code.
Brian Lewin stated that he would like to address the issue of signage and stated that he
feels that we still need signage at the intersections of Rush Street and San Gabriel
Boulevard and Rush Street and Walnut Grove Avenue. He also stated that the signage
should be northbound and southbound and that trucks are not to be on Rush Street ever
and requested this be added as a Condition of Approval.
Vice-Chairman Alarcon stated that he does not recall any problems with trucks using
Rush Street, and that the intent of the condition is not to let them use this driveway
entrance as a delivery route. He stated that it is a major street and they may need Rush
Street to get through to San Gabriel Boulevard.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that on the May 18, 2009 staff' provided the Planning
Commission with a report that provided an overview ofd all the Geological and
Geotechnical Soils Investigation studies that had been completed prior to the issuance
of building permits. She also stated the City reviewed the studies and determined that
Wal-Mart was in compliance. She further stated,, with, respect to,.the signage, staff
worked with our traffic consultant, Joanne Itagaki 'She' stated that the. Wal-Mart trucks
are complying with entering the site at Walnut Grove Avenue, but on very,few occasions
there will be a non-Wal-Mart driver that will enter the-,site using the' Rush Street
driveway. She also stated the previous signage'at,,'the,Rush Street driveway entrance
was not visible from the intersection where the signall;light is located, and that the truck
driver could not really know that they could not tuim-%,into that driveway until they
actually did the turn. She also stated '"staff feels that the$new signage will improve the
situation and feels it is not appropriate to install any furthen',signage on San Gabriel
Boulevard, Walnut Grove, and Rush Street. Shealso stated'it would be appropriate to
wait and see if we receive any further complaints, and -if .complaints are received the
matter it can be taken tothe~Traffic Commission.
Jennifer Guenther stated that she is here on'ibehalf of Wal-Mart, and she would like to
thank Principal Planner' Bermejo for all the work she has done on this project and
concurs with Marlene Shinen's earlier, comments. She also stated she would like to
address the comments that were made, as well as discuss the proposed wall for
the transformer, and explain how they came to the conclusion that it should be adequate
mitigation. She also stated she would like to address the comments made by Jim
Flournoy, regarding the transformer and the Alquist Priolo Act. She stated that there is
informationin the file from, Southern California Edison stating that undergrounding that
particular transformer at the Wal-Mart site is infeasible, and therefore what has been
done for the transformer is adequate with regard to Edison's specifications. She stated
that in regards "t'6'`the :Alquist-Priolo Act, she would like to remind the Planning
Commission that Mr. .Flournoy filed a law suit several years ago challenging this store
based upon that motion, and the court dismissed his action and then he entered into a
settlement agreement in which he agreed not to raise the issue again. She also stated
that she believes that the City has records of the settlement agreement. She also stated
that several noise studies have been done, the first one being commissioned by the
County of Los Angeles, which found that the noise levels did not exceed the noise
ordinance levels. She further stated that the City commissioned their own noise study,
which found that the store was generating noise levels that were above the City's code
requirements. A second study was also done by Dudek, which determined that
noise was coming from the roof top equipment, however after speaking with the
engineers at Wal-Mart she was told that it was unlikely that the noise was coming
from the roof top equipment. She said the only time that the development exceeds the
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noise levels is in the early morning hours of between 4:00 a.m. - 5:00 a.m. Therefore,
Wal-Mart commissioned another study by Waylan Accoustics to pinpoint the exact
location the noise. The Waylan Acoustic study determined it came from the transformer.
Southern California Edison's Engineers were contacted to perform a test on the
transformer with the store's power shut down 4 hours. She stated that the report stated
that there was nothing wrong with the transformer, however when the store was
powered up in the morning it did exceed the noise level. Based on that study, they
designed the wall to reduce the noise and confirmed with Dudek that this would work.
She also stated she would like to request from the Planning Commission that they would
give her some assurance that this will be an investment well spent and that the noise
issue would be resolved.
Commissioner Ruiz questioned Jennifer Guenther, if the analysis indicates what the
decibel readings would be once the wall is constructed.
Jennifer Guenther replied that the report states with the installation of the sound wall the
noise level is calculated to be 43 DBA or less, which complies with City: requirements.
Commissioner Ruiz questioned staff what the City's DBA requirement is-
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that between the hours of 7:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. it is
60 DBA and between the hours of 1&00 p.m. - 7:00 a.rii.,Jtjs 45 DBA.
Commissioner Ruiz stated that this will 'comply with the &it 's requirements of noise
pollution.
Commissioner Eng stated that the wall is, not constructed yet and questioned Ms.
Guenther if the study is based on the materials that will be used to construct the wall.
Jennifer Guenther replied,.yes that is part of ifr:and the other factor is the shape of the
wall. She also stated there, will be; reflection!'abilities allowing the noise to go upward
instead of in the`direction offfe residents:
Jim Flournoy questioned if. the 6 foot:wall will be high enough so it will not affect the third
floor of the condos.
Jennifer Guenther stated yes, 6 feet is adequate.
Vice-Chairman Alarcon,.questioned Jim Flournoy if he or anyone else had requested a
noise study for the Panda Restaurant or the Bank.
Jim Flournoy replied but his response was not audible.
Commissioner Eng stated she visited the site between 8:45 a.m. - 9:15 a.m., and while
walking on the sidewalk, she could hear the transformer noise. She also stated that a
single-family home can hear the transformer noise louder than the condo resident
because of the level of the transformer. She also stated that while sitting in her parked
car on the west side of Delta Avenue, with the windows closed, she could not hear the
transformer, but she could hear the traffic, She stated that with the windows down she
could hear the transformer noise. She also stated that she can see why some residents
would be concerned if they want to keep their windows open.
Commissioner Eng questioned if the installation of the 6 foot tall wall would result in a
wall that is taller than the condominium buildings.
Principal Planner Bermejo projected a photo of the transformer and the existing block
wall on the screen and indicated the location of the proposed block wall with her pointer.
She gave a description of the proposed wall and stated it will have a decorative trellis
top.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff about the proposed materials.
Principal Planner stated that staff would require that it be constructed of natural wood
materials and decorative block to match the development.
Commissioner Eng expressed her concern of adding'anotheft 6 feet to the wall, and
questioned if there would be a height issue.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that staff was concerned with this samejssue and the
residents are so far back that variable height,shoyld. not betan issue.
Commissioner Eng questioned how long it would take'to construct that wall.
Jennifer Guenther stated at this time she did not have that information.
Commissioner Eng stated that she would like to, pgopose that once the wall is built, the
Commission re-evaluate the noise issue in 3 months"instead of waiting for next year's
annual review.
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Principal Planner BermeJo stated`'that if we were to get a complaint staff would work with
Wal-Mart as soon as possible., She also stated'`that Wal-Mart is on top of their annual
reviews.
Commissioner Eng stated she would like to thank Wal-Mart and stated that Wal-Mart
has worked in good faiiliAo resolve.all,issues with residents' concerns.
Commissioner Hunter stated that she would like Wal-Mart to check the parking lot in the
evening because,there is a problem with loitering. She stated they are selling food and
a man approached her and asked her for money last time she was there around 9:00
p.m. and she noticedtlat security was not nearby and found that alarming, and
requested that Wal-Mart investigate the issue.
Commissioner Eng questioned staff if there was a typo in the response to Condition of
Approval No. 1, and asked if "2009" should be "2007". She also questioned staff why
Conditional of Approval No. 50, regarding the removal of graffiti, was written to require
removal within 48 hours instead of 24 hours. She questioned which one was correct,
since she commonly sees the standard condition requiring removal within 24 hours.
Principal Planner Bermejo stated that "2009" should be "2007." She also stated that the
condition of approval was written to require removal within 48 hours, and indicated that
staff has not seen any issues concerning graffiti.
Recommendations to move forward were made by Chairwoman Herrera and
Commissioner Eng. They stated that the noise issue should be reviewed after
completion of wall in 3 months and that the rest of the conditions will be reviewed at next
year's annual review.
Principal Planner Bermejo confirmed the recommendations by the Planning
Commission.
7. ADJOURNMENT
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The next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, Nove'mb'er 16, 2009, at 7:00
p.m.
Meeting adjourned at 8:17 p.m.
ATTEST:
Rachel Lockwood,
Commission Secretary
Diana Herrera
Chaiivdoman:"
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