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CC - 12-10-91i 0 APPROVED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING CITY O~F~lROSEMEAD ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL DATE DECEMBER 10, 1991 EY The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called to order by Mayor Imperial at 8:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of.City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California. The Pledge to the Flag was led by Councilman Taylor. The Invocation was delivered by Pastor John Wood of the Neighborhood Covenant Church. ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS: Present: Councilmen Bruesch; McDonald, Taylor, Mayor Pro Tem Clark, and Mayor Imperial Absent: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NOVEMBER 12, 1991 - REGULAR MEETING There being no objection, approval of these Minutes was deferred to the next regular meeting. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NOVEMBER 19, 1991 - ADJOURNED MEETING MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLARK that the Minutes of the Adjourned Meeting of November 19, 1991, be approved as submitted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NOVEMBER 26, 1991 - REGULAR MEETING There being no objection, approval of these Minutes was deferred to the next regular meeting. PRESENTATIONS: ANGEL MARTINEZ, WINNER STATE CROSS COUNTRY A proclamation honoring Angel Martinez was presented by the City Council. I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE Councilman McDonald addressed the members of the audience who were present to ask the Council to have a traffic light installed at the intersection of Walnut Grove Avenue and Wells Street. Mr. McDonald stated that no action could be taken at this time because the subject was not on the Agenda but that it would be placed on an agenda as soon as possible. The following persons were among those in favor of having a traffic light installed at the abovementioned intersection: Kathy Regalado, 4547 1/2 N. Earle Avenue; Catherine Salas, 4426 N. Walnut Grove Avenue; Vidal Palacios, 1426 S. Charlotte Avenue; and James Moran, 8735 Faircrest Drive. Staff was directed to provide additional sheriff patrols in this area until such time as a traffic signal may be installed. Mayor pro tem Clark suggested an adjourned meeting be held on Tuesday, December 17, 1991, for the purpose of considering this subject. A five-minute recess was called at 9:15 p.m. and the meeting was reconvened accordingly. CC 12-10-91 Page #1 Robert Angles, 9147 Valley Boulevard, asked the Council to reconsider Urgency Ordinance No. 694 relating to the moratorium on entertainment permits for Karaoke and KTV studios. Staff was directed to return the AMAX, KTV Entertainment Permit on the next agenda and Councilman Taylor requested that the Agenda Item regarding AMAX, KTV, originally heard on November 26, 1991, be entered verbatim and the Minutes returned at that same meeting. II. PUBLIC HEARINGS - None III..LEGISLATIVE A. RESOLUTION NO. 91-65 - CLAMS & DEMANDS The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 91-65 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $450,890.34 NUMBERED 37805-37834 AND 35097 THROUGH 35221 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN McDONALD that Resolution No. 91-65 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. B. RESOLUTION NO. 91-66 - RECITING THE FACT AND DECLARING THE RESULT OF THE SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD ON NOVEMBER 5, 1991 The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 91-66 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA, RECITING THE FACT OF THE SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD ON NOVEMBER 5, 1991, DECLARING THE RESULT AND SUCH OTHER MATTERS AS PROVIDED BY LAW MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that Resolution No. 91-66 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. C. RESOLUTION NO. 91-67 - CALLING AND GIVING NOTICE OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HEIR ON TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992 The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 91-67 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA, CALLING AND GIVING NOTICE OF THE HOLDING OF A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992, FOR THE ELECTION OF CERTAIN OFFICERS AS REQUIRED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA RELATING TO GENERAL LAW CITIES- CC 12-10-91 Page #2 0 Mayor pro tem Clark requested that the polls remain open until 8:00 p.m. There being no objection, this was so ordered. . MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that Resolution No. 91-67 be adopted as amended. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. D. RESOLUTION NO. 91-68 - REQUESTING THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO RENDER CERTAIN SERVICES IN THE CONDUCT OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY,, APRIL 14, 1992 The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 91-68 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO RENDER SPECIFIED SERVICES TO THE CITY RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF A GENERAL MUNICIPAL.ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN.BRUESCH that Resolution No. 91-68 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. E. RESOLUTION NO. 91-69 - PARTICIPATION IN THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY PARATRANSIT NETWORK The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 91-69 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY COORDINATED PARATRANSIT NETWORK MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN McDONALD that Resolution No. 91-69 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Councilman Bruesch requested that copies of the summary of the East Valley Demonstration Project be obtained for Council's review. F. ORDINANCE NO. 689 - CONSIDERATION OF A CITY-INITIATED REQUEST TO AMEND THE ROSEMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE CONCERNING REGULATIONS TO ESTABLISH A FLOOR AREA TO LOT AREA RATIO TO LIMIT THE SIZE OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES (PC RES. 91-21) - ADOPT The ordinance was presented to the Council for adoption: CC 12-10-91 Page #3 ORDINANCE NO. 689 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD AMENDING ARTICLE IX OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE WITH REGARD TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FLOOR-AREA RATIOS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that ordinance No. 689 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: Taylor Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Councilman Taylor stated that he was opposed to an R-1 family needing a conditional use permit to live in a home. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR (CC-D REMOVED FOR DISCUSSION) CC-A APPROVAL OF PARCEL MAP 22124 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4425 WALNUT GROVE AVENUE CC-B ACCEPTANCE OF WORK FOR STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICATIONS IN ENCINITA AVENUE (LOWER AZUSA/MISSION) CC-C REQUEST FROM ROSEMEAD HIGH SCHOOL FOR CITY PARTICIPATION IN THE FOURTH ANNUAL RUN/WALK AGAINST DRUGS, JANUARY 25, 1992 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN McDONALD that the foregoing items on the Consent Calendar be approved. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. In regard to Item CC-B, Councilman Bruesch asked for a memo regarding which labor compliance requirements not been met, leading to a delay of over seven months. CC-D ACCEPT BIDS AND AWARD CONTRACT FOR GRAFFITI REMOVAL SERVICES Mayor Imperial asked how long it takes to remove graffiti in the City. Tim Sullivan, President of Graffiti Removal, Incorporated, stated that the nature of graffiti is changing and it is taking longer to remove; emergency reports received from staff are removed the same or next day; otherwise, removal is done as soon as possible. Staff was directed to have the Code Enforcement Officers keep a daily log of all graffiti observations and report them to Graffiti Removal, Inc., in addition to the survey currently being done by the company. Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar Avenue, asked about the graffiti removal at the LA Auto Auction and reported that the trucks are being unloaded on the streets. Councilman Bruesch requested that a review of the agreement be on the next agenda. CC 12-10-91 Page #4 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that the Council accept the bids; award the contract to Graffiti Removal, Inc.; require a 72-hour response time; and authorize the Mayor to sign the agreement. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION A. APPOINTMENT OF TRUSTEE TO SAN GABRIEL VALLEY MOSQUITO ABATEMENT DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCDONALD, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM CLARK that Councilman Bruesch be appointed for a term of four years. Vote resulted: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. VI. STATUS REPORTS - None VII. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS A. TAIWAN SISTER CITY PROGRAM VERBATIM DIALOGUE FOLLOWS: IMPERIAL: This is an item I wanted on the Agenda. It's a Taiwan Sister City program. You've all got a copy of the Resolution by the Mayor of Keelung accepting this City as their Sister City. We need to adopt a resolution accepting Keelung. That is the first item on this. The second would be that they are intending to make a visit here on the 6th of February. At that time, we'll have a delegation to include the Mayor and whoever he brings with him and I don't think there'll be a large delegation from what I'm getting but I haven't got all the facts. So, I'm throwing that up to the Council. TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. What's the estimated cost of this program? IMPERIAL: I have no idea. What we're talking about is an initial visit, Mr. Taylor and after that then our committee goes into action with fund raisers.and what have you. TAYLOR: An initial visit from the City of Rosemead to Taiwan? IMPERIAL: No. The initial visit from Taiwan to the City of Rosemead. TAYLOR: And who's paying that cost? IMPERIAL: We would hope and I would request the.City would put a dinner on for these folks. TAYLOR: A dinner's one thing but what about the travel expenses? McDONALD: No. IMPERIAL: No, no. They take care of their own travel expenses. The only thing we're in concern with right now... McDONALD: The letter said a reception dinner, right? CC 12-10-91 Page #5 • • IMPERIAL: ...is a reception dinner and hopefully that our committee can put together enough money to pay for their room expenses. TAYLOR: That's an unknown right now. IMPERIAL: That's an unknown because I can't do anything about putting a committee together until such time as I get this Council to pass the resolution. At that time, I've got some people that helped me put this together. I'm going to ask each councilperson to give me three names of people that they would suggest for the committee. I put all this together. I get myself a committee. And away we go on trying to do something with it. TAYLOR: Now, in reciprocity what about the travel expense for this Council to go to Taiwan? Who pays for that? IMPERIAL: That hasn't been brought up. They will probably invite us here. But as far as I'm concerned, if I went as the Mayor, I'd have no problem with paying my own expenses, if that's a problem. I don't think that's the way it has worked with the Mexican sister city, though. TAYLOR: That is, I'm going to have to say minor, compared to the overseas travel to China. And to me, I'm not against the Sister City program, they can work very well but I need to see some type of a budget. I'm opposed to these multi-thousand dollar travel expenses which are going to come out of this. IMPERIAL: At this point, I don't see that kind of a problem. First of all, the Sister City ventures have never been paid for except for Council people. The individuals that go on these trips pay for their own. Am I correct, Don? McDONALD: I think what Gary's worried about is it costs you $3,000 to fly from Los Angeles to Taiwan. TAYLOR: And if three or four councilmembers go that's $12,000 to $15,000 for a round-trip plus expenses. I'd like to see a preliminary budget on it. McDONALD: I think we can go ahead and approve the city as a Sister City and maybe the reception dinner here and then the committee work from there. They didn't know the feeling of the Council that we may not be able to come up with funds for them to travel all the way to Taiwan so you're going to have to have some fund raisers and so forth. But I'd make the motion to accept... BRUESCH: I'll second that motion. McDONALD: ...Keelung as a Sister City. CLARK: Mr. Mayor. I'm wondering though if it's better to set it something in writing before so that I mean I would hate to offend people afterwards and say well we're not going to pay this after all as far as travel expense. I'd rather get it before we've even met anybody or there's any personalities and all and we don't even know who's going to be on our committee or on theirs and we're saying look it's kind of economic downturn here and we don't think it's a good time to put to get in to an additional expense and then it's not a personal thing. Whereas once we get too far into it it becomes a personal affront. IMPERIAL: Mayor pro tem, I would like to ask a question. When I asked for approval from this City to get a Taiwan Sister City did you think we were going to only write love letters? TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I think that's unfair in the sense because you never gave us the costs at that time, either and now we're skirting the... CC 12-10-91 Page #6 0 • IMPERIAL: There are no costs at this time, Mr. Taylor. I'm asking for a resolution. TAYLOR: No. This is a trap. And Mrs. Clark is absolutely right. When you set up a program that delegates come over here and'say gee we can't tell them we can't pay for their room and board or their accommodations, we'll find the money somehow. That isn't right. IMPERIAL: I intend to get donations. TAYLOR: More power to you. I'm not criticizing that. But she's absolutely right. When you open up this type of a program there needs to be guidelines. There needs to be a preliminary budget. You just don't open the door then everybody's embarrassed later on. She's absolutely right. IMPERIAL: I'm asking for a resolution to accept them as a Sister City. We can build the budget later. BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. IMPERIAL: If this Council decided they didn't want to spend a dime on that that would come when the budget goes. TAYLOR: I don't mind paying for dinners and such. That's good hospitality. But international travel can really get out of...I don't want to face that issue later on and say gee we-got ourselves into it what do we do now? BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. In any Sister City organization the housing is taken up, is paid for by the committee itself. And I know that when the Zapopan people come up their committee pays for their hotel. CLARK: Here? No, I don't think so. IMPERIAL: No. When the Zapopan people come up here we pay for their dinner, we host a dinner for them. The Zapopan committee pays for the. rooms and they get that through fund raisers. BRUESCH: The Zapopan committee themselves pay for their lodging. IMPERIAL: They pay with money they get from fund raisers. They set them up in the hotel and they even have a room where they can have cokes and what have you. BRUESCH: So, this resolution literally is asking the City to approve the visit of a delegation from Taiwan with the possible cost of hosting a dinner for them. No other costs, whatsoever. TAYLOR: No. This is an official recognition of establishing the program also. IMPERIAL: If you want to set a condition on this, Mr. Taylor, if you think this is a trap, then set a condition where the City will host a dinner only, okay? If that's what you want to do to.pass that resolution then let's do something, okay? It's not a trap but if that's going to make us feel better then let's do it. TAYLOR: I just think that we need some written documentation so we understand the program and I don't have a problem with hosting the City, paying for the dinners and such but there's a lot more that's going to be involved with it and I just think that we need some clarification before we hurt somebody's feelings. And I think we have to really realize that there are cultural differences and sensitivities involved. If set up a program and I have to say in all honesty that I think the Oriental people are much more family orientated and more sensitive than the American way of doing business and I just don't want that crisis to come later on and then all of a sudden we've humiliated somebody and that wouldn't be right. CC 12-10-91 Page #7 IMPERIAL: We're talking about for instance for lunches, for dinners, we had different organizations that put these together when Zapopan is here, okay? The Consulate from Taiwan, the head of the Consulate from Taiwan, has told me that he wants to host a special dinner. There's another dinner right there. They can't be here more than three or four days I think so that's how this is all put together. BRUESCH: You also have a host family dinner. People sign up to be hosts. I've hosted dinner myself for the Zapopan people. IMPERIAL: I really don't want to build anything from this that is not relevant. On the other hand, I can't give you a program until I put a committee together which I will do immediately after we pass the resolution and say hey we accept you guys as a Sister City. That doesn't commit us to anything except if you want to commit to a City dinner. CLARK: Mr. Mayor. I think though that the point that Gary's trying to make and I'm trying to make is that there's certain implications inherent in a Sister City committee because they've been going in other cities for years and years and that is that the Councils pay for the Council and staff or whoever to go to these places and I think we need to set the guidelines right now rather than waiting and saying well this resolution setting up a sister city committee to me implies that we're going to do everything the way we did in past years or that other cities do or whatever and I think we need to get it in writing now so that we don't offend somebody later. Perhaps say all expenses will be borne by the committee and then there's a lot of volunteerism out there. There's people that can provide for the restaurant. In the Zapopan committee as a matter of fact we do fund raisers. We sold flashlights and we had fund raiser at Casa Latina and there's all kinds of things and we work hard to raise the money. And I think that's great and I think there's a lot of people, a lot of resources out there we can tap. IMPERIAL: If that's what you want then let's say that. CLARK: That's what I'm saying. TAYLOR: I agree with what she's saying but we need to kind of put that in writing so we... everybody does understand that. IMPERIAL: Can't we direct that and take care of the resolution tonight? Is there a problem with that? I CLARK: That's what I want to do. TAYLOR: If that's what you're going to write into that and then it comes back here for formal approval fine. I think we've got a pretty good understanding on... BRUESCH: There's not a resolution here. All they're doing is directing staff to propose that work up that resolution. And I believe that we can... IMPERIAL: We've got a resolution. It was put together wasn't it, Don? DONALD J. WAGNER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER: Yes, sir. IMPERIAL: And it was given to the people on the Council. So, what I'm saying is it's a simple resolution say yes we will accept this Sister City.. You can pass that resolution with the understanding that the Committee will take care of all expenses, if that's what you want to do let's just do something. McDONALD: Let's take it in two motions, Mr. Mayor. The first one approving the acceptance of Keelung as our Sister City and the second will be the motion on the providing a reception dinner and that the committee.... CC 12-10-91 Page #8 CLARK: No. The dinner... McDONALD: The City will pay for the reception dinner and the committee will bear all other expenses. CLARK: Yes. TAYLOR: That's fine. IMPERIAL: That seems to be a hangup. You don't even have to mention a dinner if the City don't want to put it up. TAYLOR: No. That's the hospitality part of it, Mr. Mayor, and I think that's appropriate. McDONALD: On the first motion, I'll make the motion that we accept Keelung... AUDIENCE: Before you vote on it I want to know if I can speak on that? McDONALD: After we get a first and a second you can... AUDIENCE: I want to speak before you vote. TAYLOR: You will, Juan. IMPERIAL: After we get a second, Juan. BRUESCH: I'll second it. IMPERIAL: Okay. We have a second, Juan. Would you like to come up? AUDIENCE: I just wanted to know that you didn't want to vote on it and then you been asking me to come up during the meeting and I told you I wanted to speak on it. What benefits does this have by having a Sister City to the City? Cultural? IMPERIAL: One of the big benefits is culture exchange. AUDIENCE: Who benefits from the culture? Just the people that goes to this dinners? IMPERIAL: Our children and their children, I guess', would be basically. TAYLOR: Mr. Nunez, your comments are very appropriate and only those that physically participate in it and bring back it's the only way it can happen. NUNEZ (SPEAKER NEVER IDENTIFIED HIMSELF): Yes. That's the only way that I see it can happen because if I don't go there I don't know their culture. I know their culture of the people that are living here now. TAYLOR: Well, when they come and visit here then sometimes you get to meet them or but it takes a little extra effort to do it. Not just from your part but from everybody's. BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. NUNEZ: The expense, wait a minute, Mr. Bruesch, the expense, you just cut the subsidy for the trash collection and here I haven't figured it out but I think Gary said how much is it would cost for two or three members of the Council to go? TAYLOR: It depends on if it's two or three thousand dollars a plane ticket. No. I think what we did say Juan though that this is only to host the dinner. The other costs will be paid for by the organizing committees and it's not coming out of the City funds. CC 12-10-91 Page #9 NUNEZ: What if the organizing committees kind of shy away from something like this there's not... TAYLOR: Then the program doesn't function as well as it should but they either make it or break it. NUNEZ: Then we as a City will be embarrassed or we embarrass the guests that you were saying earlier. Because if there's no participation naturally there's not going to be... TAYLOR: Well, the committee will be in charge of that. If the committee can't put it together then they won't have the exchange. NUNEZ: But since a letter has been written to the Mayor of Keelung City already and he has accepted, how are you going to.... TAYLOR: Well, this is the most dangerous part of the whole program, in the sense that what Mrs. Clark said, a lot of cities do abuse this and use it for travelling and they just abuse it. Rosemead hasn't done that yet but I don't know what Keelung what their experience has been with Sister City programs. They may be under the impression that the host city picks up those costs. I don't know that. But I do in fact know other cities expect each city to pay for the expenses. NUNEZ: When you invite me to your house I certainly wouldn't expect you to pay for everything but as a guest... TAYLOR: Well, I don't pay for their gas and travel time to come to my home but pay for the dinner and that's what this motion was that Mr. McDonald made. NUNEZ: Well, as far as that goes and it doesn't get any farther out of line because this is more or less a socializing aspect as I see it. BRUESCH: Mr. Nunez, what I was going to say to. you earlier on was that more and more cities are looking at these types of relationships especially with Taiwan and Japan as possible open doors for business opportunities and the reason is is that California is increasingly looking westward for markets for its-economy. We have... NUNEZ: Westward? Towards Taiwan and Japan? BRUESCH: Yes. Because as you well know... NUNEZ: They've got it already. BRUESCH: No, it's the other way around. As you well know California has about the 12th largest economy in the world and in a financial downturn like we're in right now there's a lot of people that want to go and possibly open up doors to business opportunities and a lot of businesses see this as an opportunity to do that. NUNEZ: Here. BRUESCH: Yes, businesses here. NUNEZ: But I don't know. Maybe I don't read the same papers that you do or I don't see the same programs that you see on television but when the Japanese come over here they've got ranches that the money is funneled back to Japan. They've got cattle ranches... BRUESCH: That's what I'm trying to say is we're trying to reverse that trend. This is one of the things that a lot of the cities are looking at Asian sister cities as, as an opportunity to reverse that trend. Let's open up that markets over there. Let's get some of the good feeling between those people and us so that they'll open up their markets to us. That's the whole idea. TAYLOR: Mr. Nunez, the intent that they have on this and I think if Sister Cities and it becomes people to people whether it be officials CC 12-10-91 Page #10 • • TAYLOR CONTINUES: travelling there or their officials travelling here and then the committees, now the Rosemead Sister City with Zapopan, those committees are functioning terrific as far as I'm concerned, they're doing a great job. They have become really people to people whereas in the past it was legislative or I'm going to use bureaucracy group to bureaucracy group and Zapopan right now I think's working I mean the sister committee they're doing great. But they are really they participate. NUNEZ: The sister committee from the City. TAYLOR: That's correct. But in this case I think give them the option. Mr. Imperial's got a commitment. He's going to have people on that committee. They've got to make it or break it. They can't just say well we're established, now we'll go to the City and get our funding. Then that's where the problem's going to come in. I just hope we don't embarrass the Keelung officials. NUNEZ: Ourselves and them. I remember when Mr. Imperial came here, I don't recall when it was you had to take him out for sodas and someplace I believe it was the Sheriff's station or someplace and then you didn't have and then you were coming in for reimbursement, do you recall the Zapopan committee? IMPERIAL: That's news to me. I don't remember that. I do remember that I have made two trips to Zapopan and they gave me an insight into the Mexican culture that I have never had and would have never had by just meeting with those people here, okay? And I think it was a rewarding experience not only for me but for the background it gave me to deal with that for the City so I think it's a great program. NUNEZ: Well,'naturally. You're in Rome, you do as the Romans do. Here... TAYLOR: We do as Rosemeadites do. NUNEZ: But I remember that you because you there were some pictures taken. IMPERIAL: Nobody's ever cheated me out of a coke. NUNEZ: I know but you were trying to get reimbursement for some kind of pictures that were taken. IMPERIAL: Well, I never had any trouble with reimbursement if that did happen, Mr. Nunez, okay? The Sister City committee would always... NUNEZ: Let's just hope that this doesn't cost any more than one dinner per how many...? TAYLOR: Every two years. NUNEZ: Well, how many are coming? Fifteen members? IMPERIAL: No. No. No. I would like to restrict our committee to fifteen people. TAYLOR: We have a motion to accept the sister city Keelung. BRUESCH: I call for the question. TAYLOR: So we can vote on that one. McDONALD: Mr. Mayor. I guess it's a vote to approve the resolution rather than accept them as a city and I think Mayor pro tem Clark has a.... CLARK: Mr. Mayor. CC 12-10-91 Page #11 0 • TAYLOR: Well, Mr. Bruesch didn't receive this resolution yet so... BRUESCH: I haven't seen that. It wasn't in my packet. It was missing. MCDONALD: It wasn't in your packet. I think it was sent separately. TAYLOR: It was. That's where I... McDONALD: With the Graffiti Removal, it was on the Graffiti Removal... CLARK: Oh. WAGNER: On Friday. BRUESCH: I just plain didn't see it. I read it right now. CLARK: Mr. Mayor. I have one little deletion that I think is important and I ran this by someone that is very knowledgable of Asian affairs and that is the fact of calling it Republic of China which it is but it's confusing to the general public with the People's Republic of China and... IMPERIAL: People's Republic of China is... CLARK: Yes, is Red China. IMPERIAL: That's Red China. That's a known fact that the People's Republic of China is Communist China. CLARK: Right. But this person agreed that for example the United Press International never adds Republic of China to Taiwan. They always just call it Taiwan to avoid confusion. I ran this by my husband as a matter of fact I said what do you think of when you think of the Republic of China? And he says the big one, you know and he's not stupid but you know in other words I just want to scratch Republic of China because everyone knows what Taiwan is and I just don't want any chance of anyone thinking that we're forming a sister city with Red China because we did go on record against the Tianamen Square thing. IMPERIAL: Why don't we call this the Taiwan Republic of China and then we're not... CLARK: But that's what this is. It says Taiwan, Republic of China. IMPERIAL: Taiwan, Republic of China, everybody knows Taiwan's not in mainland China. CLARK: I don't want some reporter out there to write... IMPERIAL: I don't want to call them just Taiwan because that's an insult to the Taiwanese. CLARK: I asked this person and he said it wasn't. It was Steve Zuckerman as a matter of fact. And he said that would not be an insult. He said that UPI never uses Republic of China with ROC, they never do to avoid the confusion and I just would not want some reporter out there to write we're forming a sister city with the Republic of China because they, a lot of people do.not think of People's Republic of China and... TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I don't think there's a problem with removing that portion of it. You get 99% of the program. IMPERIAL: What's your wishes? TAYLOR: It's a valid question. CC 12-10-91 Page #12 • BRUESCH: The second will accept the change. 6 TAYLOR: Well, how about the maker of the motion, Mr. McDonald? McDONALD: The maker of the motion would accept that if it's agreeable with Mr. Imperial. TAYLOR: Wait a minute, now. There's three other members. McDONALD: Yes, but he's the one that's got his heart in this and putting it all together... IMPERIAL: I really don't see the problem. I really don't see the problem and I think the Asian community out there will not see a problem. I had a chance to ask for China itself. I didn't want to deal with a communist country. I don't believe in communism. They don't believe in human rights. This resolution was put together mainly with Taiwan, the Republic of China. I don't see where any misconception can come from this. Do what we need to do. I just hope we don't hurt anybody's feelings and that might be a possibility. CLARK: Mr. Mayor. I have the feeling that it would be doing just the opposite. I think by doing this we are saying to the people of Taiwan that we are behind them and as a matter of fact there was a thing with a congressman that they weren't going to I've forgotten exactly what it was but they were going to withhold some kind of trade status the preferred trade status unless they it had something to do with the human rights and Tianamen Square and things like that and I think this would be a stand that we're taking and the other thing I want to say is that the I'm not so worried about the misconception with the Chinese people but with the other ethnic groups we have that aren't as knowledgable maybe of the different the difference between Republic of China and People's Republic of because it is confusing and I wouldn't want any of that segment of our population to get the wrong impression. McDONALD: Mr. Mayor. For unanimous approval of this resolution the motion accepts that, the second accepts that and we'll all five vote for unanimous approval of it. BRUESCH: Call for the question. TAYLOR: Well, I don't know if I want to do that. McDONALD: Well, you said you were. TAYLOR: Okay. I cast my vote. Go ahead. You called for the question, Mr. Bruesch. That was easy, wasn't it? Vote taken from voting slip: Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent None Abstain: None McDONALD: Okay. Now, Mr. Mayor. I would make a second motion that we accept responsibility of the reception dinner and that the committee accepts the responsibility for all the other costs. BRUESCH: I'll second the motion. IMPERIAL: Any questions? Would you vote please. Vote taken from voting slip:, Yes: Bruesch, Taylor, Imperial, Clark, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None CC 12-10-91 Page #13 0 TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. This conversation I'd like in the Minutes verbatim. END VERBATIM DIALOGUE B. COUNCILMAN BRUESCH 1. Stated that the problem regarding the Shopper Shuttle service on Garvey Avenue is ongoing. C. MAYOR PRO TEM CLARK 1. Reported on the status of repairing the Garvey reservoir in Monterey Park. There being no further action to be taken at this time, the meeting was adjourned in memory of the City Manager's mother-in-law who died on Saturday at 10:35 p.m. to December 17, 1991, at 7:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted: Q,,~) C' Clerk CC 12-10-91 Page #14