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MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED MEETING CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL DATE 7"/0- 90
JUNE 2, 1990 BY_Z o~
The Adjourned Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called to
order by Mayor McDonald at 9:07 a.m. in the conference Room of City
Hall, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the Flag was led by Mayor McDonald and the
Invocation was delivered by Councilman Bruesch.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Bruesch, Imperial, Taylor, and Mayor McDonald
Absent: Mayor Pro Tem DeCocker - Excused
ROSEMEAD BOYS & GIRLS CLUB - 01-4200-730
VERBATIM DIALOGUE FOLLOWS:
FRANK G. TRIPEPI, CITY MANAGER: The amount requested for fiscal year
90-91, Mr. Mayor and Councilmembers, is $25,000.
MCDONALD: Would you like to make a little presentation, Mr. Robles,
and tell us why you'd like that money and what you're going to use it
for?
ANTHONY ROBLES, PRESIDENT: First of all, we'd like to have that money
like we had last year to follow up on programs that we are continuing
from the past year. The organization has been reorganizing itself as
you all know with losing of our Executive Director and our plans of
getting a new Director and putting it more on the Board's shoulders to
make the club more accountable and run like a business more
efficiently which I think we have successfully done. Also, I've got
some good news in the fact that we've gone through quite a bit,
substantial interviews, and we've made a decision to offer a position
to an individual that we think would be very good for our Club so that
it should be happening within the next two to three weeks. We also
ran a feasibility study this past year to see where we were at and the
possibility of growth for our Club, fund-raising and so on so that we
don't have to always to_rely on the City funds and some other funds
that we have been getting. So, that has looked very successful. The
kids that we have been serving in the past year are very needy kids.
We've got a couple of other programs going with Juvenile Diversion.
We've got some people coming in from Help Club that are running a
program that are trying to help out on that end of it and we've
established a parents' club so we're trying to get the parents
involved with the kids down there, because as you know, that area,
there is a real problem down there with getting the parents involved
with the kids that come to the Club. We've also established a
merchant group down there where we've got them getting involved with
the kids at the Club and donating some of their time and money. So, I
personally think the Board is pushing towards a very more businesslike
for the Club and we're looking a lot stronger. Financially wise,
we're well on the black with the Club. As of yesterday, we're up
around $14,000 in the black. All the financial parts, the taxes, have
been taken care of. The Club's run a lot more efficient this year.
Hopefully it will run a lot better next year.
McDONALD: Do you have an annual audit done?
ROBLES: We haven't had
process right now. We'
we're getting estimates
went through our United
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that finished, too.
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McDONALD: Have you been assessed by United Way already this year?
ROBLES: Yes.
McDONALD: How much did we pay them last year?
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TRIPEPI: $18,300.
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ROBLES: It was only $18,300?- I thought it was $25,000.
TAYLOR: The appropriation was for $25,000.
TRIPEPI: The actual dollars. I don't think you got started right
away. You had some problems with that and getting everything so that
$18,300 doesn't represent a full fiscal year, Mr. Mayor. That's just
actual dollars.
McDONALD: Any other questions from Council?
IMPERIAL: I have a question. If this money is appropriated, that
doesn't mean that it necessarily has to go to the Boys Club, am I
correct?
McDONALD: Do we pay them on a monthly basis?
TRIPEPI: Yes, paid on a monthly.
IMPERIAL: The reason I'm asking this question
some information and I haven't received it yet.
for the appropriation but not for the Boys Club
I've received my answers and I'm satisfied with
hold it up maybe we can vote to appropriate the
make sure that doesn't mean we're going to give
overruled.
Ls that I've asked for
I am prepared to vote
to get the money until
them. So, if it would
money but I want to
the money unless I'm
McDONALD: Mr. City Attorney, you want to answer that? Can we tie up
something like that?
ROBERT KRESS, CITY ATTORNEY: Well, this is really just planning for
the expenditure. The payment of the funds is controlled by the
contract that you have with the Boys & Girls Club which I believe is
subject to annual renewal. So that really controls the actual
invoicing and payment of money. This budget process is planning for
the overall needs of the City and making a reservation on that amount
of money.
McDONALD: It's like when we adopt the budget we adopt those as a
projected thing and we revote the expenditures.
TRIPEPI: Most of it you appropriate at the Council meeting, at the
warrant register. They don't get a $25,000 check at the beginning of
the fiscal year.
McDONALD: We appropriate the monies and then we...?
IMPERIAL: Can we just hold this over until I get my information?
TAYLOR: I would agree with that. If you've asked for it and haven't
got itland I want to see the budget actual expenditure for this year
and next year's.
McDONALD: Mr. Robleslit appears that we have a consensus to approve
the appropriation and as soon as we get the information we can follow
through on it.
IMPERIAL: I don't think that.....
McDONALD: We can table it? How would you do that?
KRESS: Just defer action.
McDONALD: We'll just defer action on the Rosemead Boys & Girls Club.
ROBLES: Can you spell exactly what you want out and I'll get it back
to you?
IMPERIAL: I wanted a budget. I want a list of all activities that
have taken place. I just a whole breakdown on the organization so I
can be satisfied and I'm not saying that you're not telling me the
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ROBLES: No, I understand. That's no problem.
IMPERIAL: Mr. Robles, I've sat through a few of these and Gary has,
too. We haven't always gotten what we've been told. I want you to
understand and I want the record to show that my feeling for the
concept of a Boys Club is outstanding. I spent most of my young life
in one, okay? But I don't feel like in the past things have been
proper and, therefore, I want that information before I make a
decision with the taxpayer's money.
ROBLES: That's good. I appreciate you letting me know this because
as the Board President of the Rosemead Boys & Girls Club we're in the
same wavelength as you are. We want to make sure that everybody sees
that what we're doing is very well organized and that we're giving
things that are asked for. This is the first time I've heard that you
wanted these things but there's no problem about it. We'll get it for
you.
McDONALD: We apologize for that. He must have talked to another
boardmember.
IMPERIAL: I talked to a boardmember and haven't received it yet.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I'd like to make a comment to Mr. Robles, also,
that my opinions and the information that I ask for reflects on no
individual. It's a procedure-. We have five other organizations on
here, new ones started last year.and this year, $100,000 beyond what
you're asking for. The dollars aren't really the issue as far as I'm
concerned any more, it's just the way that they explode and there's
another ten organizations in the City that are entitled to the money.
It's just like, and again it's no reflection on the Boys Club. It's
just that common practice that well, we will go the government for
more money. And that's all the agencies. So, that's ...I can explain
that later.
ROBLES: I understand that. I can give you, when I bring you the
budget of this year and next year and show you the budgets from the
past couple of years, you'll see the growth that the Rosemead Boys &
Girls Club had and I think you'll feel confident.....
TAYLOR: Well, like I say, it's no reflection on the Boys Club, it's
just something that's going on all over, not just Rosemead but it gets
to be overwhelming and you know on the news they're looking every
which way how do we get more taxes? President Bush, the State
government, the County, we've got to get more, we've got to get more.
And it's not the idea of the money it's what do they need the money
for. What's happening that all this is coming about.
ROBLES: Don't worry. I understand. We'll get all that stuff for
you.
MCDONALD: We apologize for not having told you prior to this time
what information we needed. Do you understand what they want then?
ROBLES: Sure.
McDONALD: Thank you very much for coming in.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I'd like my comment in the minutes verbatim
because it's going to reflect through all of these.
ASIAN PACIFIC FAMILY CENTER - 01-4200-745
VERBATIM DIALOGUE CONTINUES:
McDONALD: We have here Gladys Lee, the Director of the Asian Pacific
Family Center who would like to make her presentation.
TRIPEPI: Her request this morning is for $42,000 and I believe that
this the reason that this request has come in from Asian Family Center
is due to the basically the cancelling of the Ingleside contract by
the hospital itself. I know that Gladys is familiar with Ingleside
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TRIPEPI CONTINUES: and she heard that they were no longer going to
provide the service for $42,000 or whatever they were receiving at
that time. She's put together a budget for the Council's
consideration this morning. With that....
McDONALD: We gave to Ingleside prior to last year how much money on
an annual basis?
TRIPEPI: $42,000.
McDONALD: It was $42,000? And they are not now providing that
service at all.
TRIPEPI: They sent a letter which we provided to the Council.
They're not interested in doing the service.
McDONALD: All right, Gladys, would you like to explain what you have
to offer us?
GLADYS LEE, DIRECTOR, ASIAN PACIFIC FAMILY CENTER: Okay. We have
been in the community, specifically in the City of Rosemead, for a
little over four years, now. And we're primarily funded by Los
Angeles County Department of Mental Health and recently got a little
bit of money from Department of Children Services. We do child abuse,
we do a little bit of gang prevention but specifically we're here
today to ask for your support in providing services to the youth in
the City of Rosemead. In the last four years we've been quite
successful in working mostly with the Alhambra School District in the
form of intercultural discussion groups where we go in, take kids from
different ethnic backgrounds, put them together in groups for about
ten weeks and kind of provide a safe environment for them to relate to
each other and share some common concerns and also reduce some of the
racial tension on campus. We've graduated close to 500 students now
and it's been a very successful program specifically at Mark Keppel
High School. We've also in the last two years developed a crisis
drop-in center that's now going on at San Gabriel High, Alhambra High
and will begin at Mark Keppel High that we'd like to bring to Rosemead
High and basically we outstation our staff on campus. We get to know
the school counselors, the security person, the student leaders, and
students just confidentially drop in to see us. In the last year
those of you who were at our dinner, the young man who spoke was one
of the students that we interfaced at the crisis drop-in center,
initially. What we do is try to diffuse the crisis, talk them into
other alternatives, and if the problems are more severe we bring them
into the Center for direct treatment services. The problems range
from truancy, running away, to depression, to suicides. There are
some very serious problems. We also have developed using a rational
emotive model a skilled development group, mostly kids who are
referred by Juvenile Diversion, kids who are picked up for petty theft
or on the verge of getting into pre-criminal activities where we put
them together again and teach them how their attitudes and the way
they look at things is influencing their feelings which is then
influencing their behavior. So, we're also proposing to offer a
series of skilled development groups, mostly.on the elementary and
intermediate level, junior high level because once they get to high
school those who have problems, this kind of group would not be
affective with them. Finally, we want to also do some case management
information referral. We just got a letter for instance from the
Muscatel School about a Cambodian kid that the principal is very
concerned about, that he's going to get into some kind of gang
activities if he's not diverted. we could not meet the request
because our staff right now is so overloaded with people who are
suicidal, who are extremely depressed, we cannot respond to a
community request such as this. So, information referral case
management would offer us the resource to go to where the family is
or where the kid is, try to connect them with resource that would
prevent such kind of gang involvement. We also offered to provide
community education and consultation to five agencies in the City of
Rosemead that requires maybe a better understanding of how to work
with the Asian family. We'd like to work closer with the Rosemead
Boys & Girls Club, interface with them, help them advertise or you
know like they have some camp programs with the Asian community, offer
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LEE CONTINUES: consultation to
City. One of the things that we
awareness and how to outreach to
appreciate this opportunity.
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some local schools and even to the
do quite well is also cultural
the Asian community. So, I very much
McDONALD: We're responsible to see that the dollars that we collect
here in Rosemead are spent here in Rosemead. How would you log all
that to show that if we do in fact appropriate the monies to your
services how would you be able to tell us that you're servicing
specifically Rosemead individuals?
LEE: We can develop forms. Like we have three grants in our Center
and each grant has different colored folders and each child has a
preliminary intake form with address and City of residence. We would
develop a system like that whereby if you wish a quarterly report we
can give you a quarterly report of what we've done, the residence of
the youths so that you can be assured that the services are delivered
within the City.
IMPERIAL: Mr. Mayor. I have a lot of questions in my mind about
this. Gladys, you service the Asian community.
IMPERIAL: We also have an organization that services the Hispanic
community. My concern is what the percentage of Asians are that live
in the City of Rosemead that you handle versus how much money you're
asking for and I would feel the same way about any other agency that
comes in here. I think we need this information before I myself could
vote for it.
LEE- Right.
McDONALD: I think she's made the point fairly clear that she's not
totally servicing the people in Rosemead because she does not have the
funds to be able to do that.
LEE: Well, let me add that I did a study on our intakes. We do about
250-300 intakes a year. Monterey Park, of course, is the highest city
of intakes and Rosemead is the second. Now, in terms of numbers I
don't have it with me today but we do serve a lot of people from
Rosemead by the virtue of the fact that we're in the City of Rosemead
but because we're primarily funded by Mental Health if you're not
schizophrenic, if you're not on the verge of needing to be
hospitalized, you're not acutely suicidal, we cannot serve anyone
because they don't meet the County requirements anymore. They're
defining the target population stricter and stricter and stricter as
their resources dwindle. So,, our proposal is to serve the youth in
Rosemead and it's not just the Asian youth, like an intercultural
discussion group in the past four years, it's a mixture of Hispanic
youth and Asian youth and Caucasian youth because we want to. mix the
kids together so they can understand each other as kids rather than
you're yellow, I'm brown and you're white and it's been a very
successful program.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. Where can we get the actual statistics of
juvenile or youth suicides for Monterey Park, Rosemead and such? They
must have that listed somewhere.
LEE: No, they don't. We've talked to police departments. No one
keeps statistics. There are....
TAYLOR: How about the National Institute, they have poisonings, they
list almost every death that's reported. There's a Federal agency
that reports that, per state, per county, per city.
LEE: A lot of suicides among youths are not reported.
TAYLOR: There's got to be something on the death certificate even if
they're dying and we'll have to make a rational guess. If there's no
statistics then nobody can back it up on either side but there's got
to be some kind of a death record.
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LEE: The kids that we deal with are the kids who attempt to commit
suicide. They're not successful at it because they're still alive.
But they attempt to overdose on aspirin or alcohol. They do things
that would potentially hurt themselves. These are never reported. As
a matter of fact in the intercultural group at Mark Keppel High School
the teachers didn't even know that. It's true that in discussion
groups that kids started telling us that two years ago I tried to
slash my wrists but I didn't tell anyone. Those things would not be
reflected in any public record because no one knows about them.
IMPERIAL: Mr. Mayor. I think in answer to your question, Gary, if
the Los Angeles County PET program would have the most up to date
statistics on that and if we can request from the PET program those
statistics we can get a better feel on it.
KRESS: What are the initials?
IMPERIAL: P-E-T, PET, they work out of Los Angeles County and they
deal mainly with people that are suicidal, drug addicts and what have
you and I think they keep statistics on them all.
LEE: But I'd like to emphasize again that the kids that we are
targeting are kids who are.... you know a lot of kids get in trouble
and attempt suicide without even the parents knowing about it and it
will not be on public record that if this Council uses this data to
determine whether this program is viable or the needs are there then
you will not find the data to....
McDONALD: If we fund your services you're not just offering us acute
medical?
LEE: No, no. This is intervention. The County will fund the acute.
I'm not saying this program is going to serve the kids who are
suicidal. This is a prevention program.
BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. I've had experience with kids at our school
that, the Asian kids who are in this pre-stage, before the
restrictions were put on there was some service and the problem is a
lot of Asian families don't go through the normal steps of
intervention services because most of the time they will not come to a
counseling program or a parent program because of the cultural
differences. They will not avail themselves of the normal services
and what is needed is actually home visits from the counseling system
which most counseling systems do not have the facilities to provide
and a lot of these kids who are coming out of seventh and eighth grade
and going into the Asian gangs have been earmarked as potential
at-risk kids for four or five years but because the families would not
avail themselves of the normal type of counseling programs that are
offered by the schools the kids go unserved and I've seen this time
and time again and there is a special need for those type of kids. I
just had one kid that was a constant runaway that it took us three
years to get service and only through Asian counseling was the family
finally convinced that the kid had problems, was removed from the home
and placed in a halfway house and this comes up time and time again.
There is a unique need out there.
McDONALD: What kind of service could you provide for half that money?
LEE: Half the service.
McDONALD: Half the service. We have a population in this City of
probably 50% or 60% Hispanic and almost 30% Asian. Ingleside provided
that service blankly to everybody, didn't have a tag on it or had a
perception to it. The Asian Pacific Family Center has an Asian
perception to it and somebody else who is on the agenda, the Family
Counseling Service, is more Hispanic-based. We have given out the
$42,000 in years past on statistics that Intervale gave to us that we
thought were justified. If we now, like I said we have two
organizations that are asking for the amount that Intervale has and it
looks as though, perception-wise, that they would be only serving a
portion of those people if we gave them that money. You could give us
half the service for $21,000.
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LEE: Yes, and I know Roberta very well. I'd be happy to work closer
with her, especially in the way that early intervention many times
you see kids who need direct treatment services. We don't have the
specialty that the Family Counseling has with the Hispanic population
and we can mutually refer to each other. But with this kind of case
management service we can go into the home, we can go and connect
these kids with resources out there that may not just be mental health
and what we're finding is once a week family therapy and treatment is
not enough for these kids. They need to be connected with community
resources and we hope that through this grant we're able to do this
kind of service.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. A question to Gladys regarding the school
programs. Bob mentioned they have it at the school but they won't
take advantage of it. That tells me there's a breakdown. It's
duplication of service somewhere, one is not functioning properly.
Either they're not getting the message through at the schools ...it's
there though, it's available. I get the same impression that high
schools have the counseling classes they can be referred to. I don't
know the total network of the system, how it actually goes. You say
you have the inhouse service that's available. I don't know what the
Garvey School District has available, after hours counseling, I don't
know all the details. But it appears there's duplication and each
organization that comes in, as Mayor McDonald said we have another
proposal for the same amount of money, how are they going to be
functioning and are they going to ba serving.... I'll be honest with
you. My first reaction is that they will serve the Hispanic and you
will serve the Asian or oriental and that's the nature of it. But for
an overall community, there's federal programs, there's state
programs, there's county programs and now we're getting into city
programs. It doesn't really seem.... none of them are efficient. It
just keeps spreading out.
LEE: Let me respond to that. First of all, as far as the school
districts that we work with we are not aware that we're duplicating.
As a matter of fact Garvey School District is always requesting that
we provide a series of these services that in the past we have been
able to provide. Now, we can no longer provide because of County
restrictions. We work very closely with Marcell Soriano who I guess
is going to Cal-State LA now and Rosemead High have asked us for
services because they don't have this unique capability so I don't
think we're duplicating.
TAYLOR: Let me ask you. You made a comment that the County is no
longer allowing you to do certain types of counseling?
LEE: The County will only allow us to see people inhouse for "direct
treatment."
TAYLOR: When did they start that?
LEE: It's been going on for the last couple of years.
TAYLOR: Were you doing it before?
LEE: We were doing it before because the County restrictions were not
as restrictive, the budget was not as tight. Also, in the beginning
when you start a program with any ethic population they don't come to
you readily. You need a couple of years of being in the community,
doing the outreach. Now, our direct service caseload is very, very
high. We get referrals from, I mean we have a long waiting list of
people who need help. So, when you have clients who need direct
treatment help you cannot justify your staff going out to do early
intervention and because the County states your priority is to do
direct treatment.
TAYLOR: But my reaction is that the County, it goes back to what we
have on the gentleman just before you, there's money available and the
County is getting money. Our budget cost, basically, for all the
staff and general cost is going up 10-150. Not your program but just
in general, it's going up, so I believe the County is going to get
their money and they're going to get increases and they're demanding
more taxes, more increases, they're cutting your services so that
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LEE: Let me explain. They're not cutting our services. We have a
lot of....
TAYLOR: But you're allowed not to do things now.
LEE: They haven't increased our base. So, we have the same personnel
but our caseload has gone up at least 100%. So, with the same number
of people and doubling the work you've got to then prioritize. What's
more important, someone who's going to be killing themselves if you
don't see them or so depressed they can't get out of bed in the
morning.
TAYLOR: Your casework doubled in what period of time?
LEE: In the last two fiscal years.
TAYLOR: What is going to happen in your mind, in the next two fiscal
years?
LEE: In terms of mental health, right now mental health is facing a
$10.6 million budget cut.
TAYLOR: Disregarding that. Your caseload went up a 100% in two
years. Can you tell me that your caseloads are going to go up 10% in
the next two years, 40% in the next two years, or 70% in the next two
years?
LEE: I can just assume that it's going to go up because the needs are
there.
TAYLOR: That's my point. I'm sure it's going to go up because this
is something... it doesn't say well this year everything is solved and
I'm not being facetious with you. All I'm trying to say is it just
keeps compounding and compounding. Next year if it goes up 70% your
budget's going to have to go up 70%.
LEE: That just means that more and more people will be denied
services. We'll have to then prioritize more and more. But see the
thing is I don't our Center has been very fortunate in that we've
had a little bit of United Way money, we have a little bit of AB 90.
money, a little bit of child abuse, a whole chunk of mental health,
and we're coming to the City for another source of funding and we see
it at as a public/private partnership, I mean different resources
combining to strengthen what we can do to serve the community. So, I
don't see it as us duplicating services I just see it as a marriage, a
partnership between different funding sources.
TAYLOR: I want to clear up one thing for your benefit. Again, I
asked Mr. Robles some of the same general questions. In no way am I
picking on any organization or any individual. The point I'm trying
to get across is that there's a whole network out there. We're
treating symptoms. Everybody's giving a little more money. But go
back to the original. What is creating this tremendous growth and
expansion of all these programs. So it's no reflection on you or your
organization. I want to make that clear. So, that's the reasoning
for my questioning and one thing I would ask of you, same thing with
all these organizations, is a current budget and the past budget. I'd
like those so we can get a better feel of who is doing the funding and
why they're cutting it and the percentages of increase and that's just
a general comment.
BRUESCH: I wanted to go back to what Gary said about duplication of
effort with the school districts. There really isn't because I'm
talking about personal experience at my school with Asian kids. The
way a child in the school that is in need gets services is they've got
through the steps. They've got to be referred to a program. The
program looks at the referral, prioritizes those needs, takes those
kids who need the services the most. The initial contact is made by
the program to the homes by phone. If there's no response after three
calls the child is put at the bottom of the stack and the next one
comes. There's a problem with the Asian homes. Number one is the
language difficulty. There are not enough counseling services that
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BRUESCH CONTINUES: have Cantonese speaking, Vietnamese speaking,
Cambodian speaking counselors. There's just not enough of them.
Secondly, the demands of the program because of servicing so many kids
states that the parents have to have a conference either at the school
or at some neutral site with the counseling program. Most Asian,
non-English speaking families will not do that. So, what is happening
to those kids is that they're being put at the bottom of the stack
because they can't make that initial contact. What I'm saying is that
programs have got to be developed that take this non-contact group and
contact the families in a different way. They are not getting
services. It is not a duplication of efforts. They plain and simply
are not getting service. We had a kid that was a runaway for three
years. They contacted him three different counseling programs through
the school. None of them made that initial contact: He got put down
at the bottom of the stack. Only by physically taking the kid over to
the Asian Pacific program finally they got a person to go to the
family and say hey this kid is in a real problem area and they got
some services. That was before the restrictions were put on the
program. So, it is not a duplication of efforts.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. One short comment on it, then. There's a lot of
things that happen, Bob. You can pick out one individual case, you
can pick out five individual cases. I'm not disputing that there is
an incident somewhere or several incidents. A year ago I built a
County facility for the mental health treatment. February the 8th,
1989, was the completion date. With extensions we finished that
building in June. This is June of 1990. That building has not opened
yet. It is sitting, brand new, unoccupied. That's inefficiency. You
catch a private business doing that and what happens? They are out of
business. All I'm looking for is efficiency and finding out the
federal government, the different fundings. That's what upsets me. I
physically know this is going on. I built that building. The federal
government come in later, the state stepped in, they want TV monitors
in all the rooms for the patients. Things that they went through.
The State Planning Department, the Fire Marshall, these things happen
and I don't like it as a taxpayer. Most taxpayers don't know this.
All I'm saying is the efficiency of the organization.
McDONALD: Let me make a statement here. I think what we're looking
at gentlemen is Intervale provided health services in this community
for a number of years for $42,000. Right now, do we want to give
Asian Pacific, and I would recommend $21,000, so that we've got
$21,000 of priority for Rosemead citizens. That's all we're looking
at. We know that, and Gary is perfectly right, every organization, no
matter where they are, comes in the next year because they see all
this need for services and they're certainly those needs for services
are out there. They're only going to provide those services as they
prioritize them to the amount of money that they have. We've got to
make the determination do we think mental health service here in
Rosemead that we've had in the past is important enough to fund in the
future. We don't have anybody else available. County is cutting way
back as you notice on mental health. So, if we as a City want to
participate in providing $21,000 priority to the Asians through Asian
Pacific and probably $21,000 through the Family Counseling Service for
the Hispanics and hopefully they'll take me when I go off the deep
end. Do we want to do that? But this gives us a prioritizement that
Rosemead citizens are going to get up to that point a priority and if
they can justify that I'm willing to try them for a year. Do I have a
recommendation?
BRUESCH: I'll so recommend.
McDONALD: Any further comment?
IMPERIAL: Mr. Mayor. I'd like to see this deferred for the
information I requested.
McDONALD: Why does it come down to budget day that we ask for this
information? We've had this budget for a week, gentlemen.
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LEE: And once again, I'd like to underscore. You can talk to the
local schools, Garvey School District, I think that would give you a
better source of data than the official public record. If you look at
the official public record, Asian communities do not need any
services. Traditionally, Asian, especially Asian immigrants,
underutilize services. So, the general image is that they don't need
services which is not true. So, I like to really state that for the
record.
McDONALD: Mr. Imperial would like to defer it, Mr. Bruesch.
BRUESCH: Well, the thing of it is then on all of these then we're
going to have to defer because there's really no budgets on any of the
programs that have been requested.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I think it would be appropriate when these new
programs come in like this it should be staff policy that they bring
in that backup information. Mr. Bruesch knows full well that when we
went through the Boys Club that I demanded all that information and it
took some time to get it and I guess maybe I should apologize for not
coming in and requesting all this from staff. If we put it in the
record now maybe that will be done in the future.
McDONALD: Okay, what are we asking then of Asian Pacific?
IMPERIAL: I want a breakdown and Roberta Trujillo can give us this,
of the Hispanic community it would service, a breakdown of the
oriental community that would be serviced in this community and the
programs they offer and what they've done so far so that I want to see
some facts and figures before we go into this. And I want to also
make it a point for the record that I think that what we're looking at
in the City of Rosemead is funding for this year. If we fund for this
year and not to take it for granted it's for next year and the
following year because I think that because we're financially fat
right now so to speak that that's not always going to be what's going
to be happening in Rosemead and we need to especially with the impact
in this community we need to be looking at being very careful on where
we're going to spend our money in the future.
McDONALD: We apologize for not telling you what kind of information
we needed here. But do you have that down?
TRIPEPI: I have that down, Mr. Mayor. We apologize, as staff. For
any new organizations in the future we'll have the past three year's
budgets attached. We will tell them that's part of the information
that has to go on.
McDONALD: We'll defer that and you'll be contacted when you get
that information as soon as you can and we'll set another date.
LEE: And I'll work with you, Frank, to clarify exactly what
information you need next week.
END VERBATIM DIALOGUE
WILLDAN
- TRAFFIC
- 01-4510-110, 160
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
the Traffic Engineering budget be approved for a total of $30,050
(Traffic Engineer - $22,050 and Engineering/Traffic Studies - $8,000).
Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
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ROSEMEAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE - 01-4200-750
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that the
Chamber of Commerce budget be approved in the amount of $29,000. Vote
resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
FAMILY COUNSELING SERVICE OF WEST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY
01-4200-775
VERBATIM DIALOGUE FOLLOWS:
TRIPEPI: Joseph Soto from Family Counseling. Obviously, Mr. Soto is
here this morning to present the Family Counseling request for funds.
This particular action is probably going to be deferred for reasons
that the Council's going to request some additional information and we
apologize. Staff could have asked for that and that's one that got by
us so we apologize for that so we're going to ask you to provide some
budgets, say for the past three years of your operation and I know
there's going to be a request for some statistics as to the numbers of
kids from Rosemead that you are servicing out of your entire
consortium that you serve and I'm sure that you have those figures to
breakdown. I know Roberta has mentioned before that this could be
targeted out and separated. Perhaps this morning Joe you can answer
any specific questions the Council may have without need of providing
additional information but at the very least we're going to need again
the three years budgets and a breakdown of the percentage of the
community that you service from your total budget.
McDONALD: Yes, Joe. What we've done in the past is we've funded
Ingleside Hospital for mental health services. Sometime last year
they went private and decided not to provide those services and so we
have two groups that are asking to provide services. One is Asian
Pacific Family Center and the other is your group, Family Counseling
Services. Both of you are asking for the same amount that Ingleside
has had. You're new in the respect of providing health services for
us. We don't know what you can do and what you can't do so what
they're asking is what will you do for your $42,000? We were kind of
thinking of splitting the monies and giving half to you and half to
the other organization if we do decide to appropriate those funds.
But we'd like to see what you can provide for those services. Not
necessarily what you're doing now for everybody else but what's this
money going to do for us and where is the priority for Rosemead
citizens and how will you show us by us giving you that money that at
least you'll use that much money up on our Rosemead citizens. So,
that's kind of what we're looking for.
IMPERIAL: Mr. Mayor. Joe, I think what I'm looking for is we had
$42,000 we're supposed to be getting the proper amount of treatment
for the people in the City of Rosemead. Now, that organization
doesn't want that business anymore so we're talking about two
organizations coming in for $42,000 a piece which is $84,000. When we
were getting it for $42,000 before. I hesitated to give any money to
the Asian Pacific because they're telling us we want the $42,000 and
Mr. McDonald suggested half but I'm not sure that half the people in
the community are Asian, they're not. Percentage wise that money
should be given out. For instance, if you've got 40% of the
population and 15% is Asian then I don't see that you get half and
they get half. I think you should have a bigger share because you got
more Hispanics you need to deal with. So, that's what I'm after,
those kind of figures. What you're going to do and those kind of
figures that tell me what's appropriate if we do go with this.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I'd like Mr. Soto to comment in general the
services that they will be providing additional to the Rosemead youth
and family than what you're already providing.
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JOSEPH SOTO: Basically the proposal that my involvement is with the
prevention education component. We're planning to expand services
that perhaps our agency sees as a need right now coming to the City of
Rosemead from the different school districts that we're involved in.
For example, Garvey School District has a high service request coming
in for that particular Garvey Intermediate School campus that is one
that is very interested in having services especially for the Latino
population. They made a considerable amount of requests. We have not
been able to provide that school with the services necessary simply
because we don't have the sufficient amount of staff, we don't have
the sufficient amount of funding to provide the services necessary
that that particular school is requesting. But that's just one
school. We've had different requests from Rosemead High School,
various intermediate schools within the Rosemead School District, that
are asking for support in terms of prevention, in terms of parenting
classes, in terms of support groups for youth, and family education.
Now, predominantly most of these schools are Latino and right now we
feel that a great percentage of these services that we are providing
are very equally distributed within the whole area. However,
there is a lack of services in these particular schools and we're
trying to expand services further for the specific purpose of
prevention education. Dr. Hirsch can expand a little bit more from
the clinical aspect how we plan to expand our services with the money
you propose to do.
TAYLOR: As far as the additional money what programs you have in
operation now, what the additional money will buy, the services that
will be provided, background information on that.
DR. HIRSCH: Are we talking specifically about school services?
TAYLOR: Whatever services are going to be provided.
DR. HIRSCH: We list a whole series of services in here because we're
not certain what you're interested in funding and what you're
interested in expanding on. One of our primary proposals is enlisting
parents to provide support for parents to deal with some of the
disruptions of gangs within their own family structure. We're well
aware that through the whole community and through the whole country
at this point, gangs are a national problem. What we are focusing on,
one of the things that we propose to do is to really enlist the help
of the parents in dealing with their own children's gang activity. A
very novel kind of concept and as far as we know is not being done
anywhere. We work with a lot of these parents who come into our
agencies. We also work with a lot of the children in the school
systems, themselves. What we found and what we set forth in the
proposal is that frequently the parents are held captive within their
own houses by their children and they don't know what to do, they
don't know how to cope. The alternatives that seem to be open to them
are A, either to turn the kids in or B, to evict them from the house.
As parents and as a parent myself although my son is not involved in
gang activity this is a very difficult kind of alternative to do.
What we propose is to form some parent support groups beginning with
one, have one of our people consult to that group, and start bringing
in resources and start teaching them in a sense how to become
effective parents, how to deal, if possible, and not always possible,
with the gang members within their own household and then expand
outward from there. So that's one of our prime proposals. We also
propose once that gets started to begin looking for seed money from
other areas. One of things that we've experienced in writing the
proposal is that we got it in rather quickly. We haven't had a chance
to see where if things are funded from you in the sense that it
amounts to seed money and we can go to other grants, other agencies,
other things and say this is a project that is now ongoing, we want to
expand it. We want to bring in and allocate money from other areas.
So, if we have the good fortune to be funded for some of these things,
part of our proposal through the whole thing is to look elsewhere for
money to augment the funds that we get from you. We also plan to
start an ongoing planning process to start working more directly with
the residents, the counseling, all of the various agencies and levels
to find out more definitively what is needed. In a sense we are
coming from our knowledge both from clinic patients., from contact with
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HIRSCH CONTINUES: various people in the community, the school
systems, and saying these are the things we think you need. These are
the things we propose, this being the first of one and we'll discuss
the others. But we'd like to augment an ongoing information planning
process so that we can offer programs that are really tailor-made to
the needs of the City and becoming an integral part of the City. A
second proposal that we're setting forth is to begin work with senior
citizens. We have contact with a senior gerontologist in Los Angeles
who is associated with the Alzheimer's Foundation. We propose to use
this consultant to fit in with some of the already existing programs
that you have and thus to both provide consultation and again to
attempt to get money from the Alzheimer's Foundation. Some of the
statistics that we're aware of are that roughly 40%-50o of the
dementia and senile psychosis seem to be Alzheimer's related and
there's a great deal of money available now for treatment in those
areas. So, we propose to bring a senior consultant and to continue
working with the programs that have already been set up and to try to
use this person, A to get some people in from a new program that has
been started at USC, we've had some contact with USC, University of
Southern California, they have a very expansive gerontology program.
They have interns that they're interested in placing in the community.
Our consultant has contact with that and was trained at I think it's
the Andrus Gerontology Center and bringing some of those interns in
again to work. Our funding in that area is to pay for the consultant
and to pay for some of the coordination that goes on. Our third
proposal is a resident awareness kind of program. We propose this in
terms of writing a column to answer citizen's questions about mental
health, family, crisis, domestic violence, those kinds of things that
are within the general purview of our agency and thus in one sense
making awareness, responding to questions. The second part of the
proposal is to contact and try to obtain either some donated or low
cost air time on a local radio station, both Spanish language as well
as English language. We have some initial contact with radio KALI and
again they seem responsive to that. We have to pursue that further.
We propose to do some things such as linking programs together. As
you know and as Mr. Soto has probably spoken about before I arrived we
have a presence already in the schools. We work with teens and
alcohol abuse and substance abuse and pregnancy areas. We also in a
round about way kind of work with the gangs because a lot of these
kids are hooked into the gangs. So, we work with them. We now have a
two-year track record of working with these children and bringing them
successfully back into a school environment. What we would propose
are simple kinds of things on the air, perhaps having teens talk to
teens, telling what their experiences were. Peer relationships we've
found clinically, have a very heavy impact. Sometimes much heavier
than we as adults can have. Sometimes less. But they're a very
decisive influence to hear a teenager's experience of what happened to
them in a gang relationship, what happened to them in a pregnancy,
what happened to them with drug abuse. I have a long track record of
working with substance abuse. I was the coordinator for Los Angeles
County Department of Mental Health for west Los Angeles for about four
years in substance abuse. And so I've worked with teens and all kinds
of things. Mr. Soto has extensive experience in doing it. What we
feel is exactly what I've said we want to bring these kids in, put
them on in a sense where they can disseminate information. In
addition to that, we would like to disseminate information about
programs that are going in where people can avail themselves of free
or low cost services. One of the greatest problems going on is that
mental health services have been cut drastically. As you may or may
not know County of Los Angeles deals almost entirely now with a
chronic homeless population that is in a sense their self-appointed
decision. State mental health funding comes and goes. Most people do
not have resources to go to and if they do they frequently are short
term. They deal with the crisis, put that crisis together, deal with
another crisis. What we propose is to put people's awareness that
there are services such as available our clinic and other clinics
funded by United Way, funded by various local grants and so on so that
people can come and utilize these services. We basically as we
propose are going to try and raise people's awareness of what their
alternatives are, what their resources are and in a sense what happens
to them especially at the teenage level, that's where most of our
focus would like to be in that area, when they go astray. Sharing
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HIRSCH CONTINUES: experiences. We propose someone to coordinate
these activities, to make the contacts with the media. I will
probably be the person if you accept the proposal writing the column
and making those kinds of responses. Basically I'm the senior
clinician within the agency and I would be the person responding to
that. Ministerial support. We would like to hook that in to the
other programs that we have in the sense of providing help with
counseling, with pre-marital, marital kinds of problems, senior
citizen kinds of problems, substance abuse kinds of problems,
parenting kinds of problems. Many people go to their ministers rather
than to the secular sector to get counseling, to get mental health
advice, to get all kinds of information. What we would like to do is
work with the already established ministerial group and provide
augmented counseling, I'm sorry, augmented consultation to them in the
various areas in which we have expertise. Part of our proposal as set
forth in the overview says that depending on what is accepted for
funding we are going to try and link things together to make the
maximum use of our staff time. It's very hard to speak to that
budgetarily because we don't know where things are going to go, what's
going to be funded, what's not going to be funded. But once we have
some kind of picture of what will happen we're going to try and bring
things together and use overlapping staff.
TAYLOR: A comment I'd like to make on your funding right now. Where
do you get most of your funding from?
HIRSCH: The bulk of our funding comes from United Way. We're a
United Way funded agency. We've been so since 1967. We do some
fundraising through our annual dinner. We do some fund-raising
through people who contribute. We have just hired a fund developer
who we hope will go out and start developing funds, sources of funding
within the business community.
TAYLOR: What public agencies actually donate?
HIRSCH: Public agencies donate? Not in the sense of donate. We have
a contract with the Department of Children Services, the County of Los
Angeles, Office of Drug Abuse, the office of Alcohol Programs, those
are for alcohol and drug prevention.
TAYLOR: What is your relationship now with the school districts? How
do you function with them?
SOTO: What we're doing, we're trying to provide prevention and
education services. We have a long standing relationship with a lot
of schools within the Rosemead School District. We been providing
parenting classes for a long period of time. We been self-esteem
building groups within elementary school children. We been providing
family education base programs within the community. We've acted as
guest speakers at different school districts, made different
presentations, all on prevention related topics. So, we've had these
type of relationships for a long period of time. What we're trying to
do now is expand on our expertise based, for example on family based
education, is a very different type of prevention approach compared to
some of the existing prevention programs that exist now. At the same
time we're trying to tailor the needs of Rosemead. And what we see is
we're encouraged to come out and do more family education programs.
TAYLOR: How do you specifically help individual children or a family?
SOTO: What we try to do is we work for a long period of time. Our
programs run for 10-15 weeks. It's not just dessimation
(dissemination of information. It's the relationship that you
build along with the role modeling of the program staff. So, we've
worked with the entire families. We have different components,
specialists will work with the children, other specialists will work
with the parents, then we come together as a whole and we try to some
sort of an activity that will try to enhance family communication,
understanding of each other's behaviors and also an education process
that will hopefully enhance the whole cohesiveness of the family
system.
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TAYLOR: You have statistics on, I don't want the names of any of
them, but specific children and families, how many you've handled in
Rosemead?
SOTO: Yes, sir.
TAYLOR: That's one of the things that I'm going to ask for and I
think Mr. Hirsch you weren't here when we made a comment to Mr. Soto
about asking for the budgets for the past three years as far
appropriations, where the money comes from, the funding. It's
basically a new program with the City of Rosemead and we deferred the
other proposal before you, the same treatment to get all this
information and I'm basically, one of the things I'm looking for is
the duplication of services in the sense that we know the federal,
state, county and I'm not going to reiterate all my comments but
finding out which is the most efficient way and the services have to
be provided. No one is disputing that but trying to find out the
results of who's providing what seems to be or is the best services.
It's so hard to evaluate because as you know this is all psychological
and mental and how do the family and the children benefit. You can't
go out and say they got three home runs in the last game or they had
two traffic tickets or they got four touchdowns. You can't evaluate
it that way.
HIRSCH: We have some concrete things both in terms of what are
statistics and in terms of what I would call war stories that add to
the evaluation of it.
TAYLOR: What do you mean, war stories?
HIRSCH: War stories are what happened to various people who we
treated and their successful rehabilitation from the war that occurs
in their lives on a daily kind of basis. We've had, in the pregnant
teens program, a fourteen year old who has been pregnant twice and has
delivered. She is now working successfully as a waitress. She is off
welfare. She is supporting herself. She is supporting children.
That's a success story. We have a couple of failure stories of
children who have been forced out of their home because of the
disgrace they felt for the families and basically one we found under a
freeway overpass, living there. We helped her to connect with
welfare. We helped her connect with a variety of 'things and she
disappeared. We don't know what happened to her.
TAYLOR: How do you compile those statistics?
HIRSCH: We have to, for our contracts, we have to keep statistics on
the units of service delivered, the people contacted and so on.
That's for payment under those contracts, those are required for the
funding. Within our clinic files we keep case records which contain
the clinical information and the things that are in that.
TAYLOR: I know a certain amount of that information is privileged for
the individuals where it's not for public review but I would like to
see the war story successes and the rate of failures and such on a
number basis. To me that's one of the most important things, it's
just that direct to evaluate how efficient the program. Nobody, by
any means, is going to have a 80-20 perfect relationship. No
organization. That's understood. But we're getting so many proposals
and you have to in optimistic when anybody presents a proposal it's
the..... what's the best benefit coming out of it but the negative also
when you evaluate all of them, the different proposals, we have to
have that information and that again is one reason for the deferral of
this particular item and as I said the others also have been deferred.
HIRSCH: We'd be happy to provide that for you and provide that both
in terms of success, failure and the unknowns, the ongoing things.
One of the programs that Mr. Soto has is a Magic Circle.
SOTO: Magic Circle is a small... the purpose of it is to enhance
self-esteem mastering socialization skills and they're small groups,
self-esteem building groups, and we spend a period of 15 weeks within
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TAYLOR: Within the schools, at the school sites?
SOTO: Yes, in the classroom, with the teacher.
HIRSCH: The crucial part of this is with kindergarten to third grade
children. So, we are going in to begin at a level that will carry
through these kids lifetimes.
IMPERIAL: Again, Joe, we're talking percentages that we're dealing
with from Rosemead.
SOTO: Okay. So, percentages specifically.
IMPERIAL: Whether it's Rosemead High School or what so we get a clear
picture of this.
BRUESCH: Just to reiterate what they have been saying and also to
corroborate what Gary was saying. One of things that I got out of
that Seattle conference, going up there, was the fact that the needs
are there because of growth. We have a growth factor especially in
this area but most large cities like Gary says are faced with a
thousand different needs and a million proposals to get those needs
and what a lot of the larger cities have done is plain and simple gone
out and hired a consultant to find out what programs are servicing
what groups and what needs are being satisfied and what percentage
points. Of course our City doesn't have the wherewithal to do that.
We're going to have to rely on information given by the organizations
to see what the overall picture is. There is some duplication of
effort but there are some gaps also and we have to have that picture.
We're shooting at the dark if we don't have those numbers.
McDONALD: Thank you, Bob. Any further discussion by the council?
Okay, we've moved to defer that then until we get that additional
information. You'll be contacted when we're going to take a vote on
it. Thank you very much for your input this morning.
GREATER EL MONTE GIRLS CLUB - 01-4200-720
TRIPEPI: The next item is the proposal from the Greater E1 Monte
Girls Club. It's proposing two alternate levels of service, one in
the amount of $14,400 and the other in the amount of $22,280. Debra
Regan is with us this morning to expand and answer any questions that
you may have. They did receive partial funding last year.
McDONALD: Debby, why don't you go ahead and tell us what has been
going on here in Rosemead?
DEBRA REGAN: Right now, we have our two day program and it's Tuesdays
and Thursdays and we meet at the Rosemead Methodist Church. We've got
an enrollment of 50 girls that come, that are enrolled with us in the
program and I'd say on a daily basis, we have between 35-40 that
attend our program and we've been very fortunate to get some community
support through Linda Montoya. She's come in periodically with the
(SANE program. We've had great community support also from the
Kiwanettes, from the Kiwanis Club. They've come and helped with
tutoring and we've got a very positive response from the parents and
they would like to see this program continue on for more than the two
days. I'd love to go five but you know but three would be great just
to service these kids.
BRUESCH: What is the age group?
REGAN: The youngest one we have enrolled there is seven and the
oldest one is thirteen right now. We get a few kids, the older ones
from Muscatel.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. Miss Regan, you mentioned that there are 50 girls
registered?
REGAN: Yes.
TAYLOR: And Tuesdays and Thursdays you have 35....
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REGAN: Some kids can come one day and some kids come the other. A
lot of it is conflict with Catechism classes running on Tuesdays so
some of them can only come on Thursdays.
TAYLOR: But you're actually saying..... there's a sign sheet from what
I understand.
REGAN: There's a sign in sheet, right.
TAYLOR: And you have 30-35 each....
REGAN: We have about 30-35 that come in.
TAYLOR: Each day, then.
REGAN: Each Tuesday or Thursday. I've had a great response also from
the schools. Mrs. Jacobs from Encinita has been fantastic as far as
when I went to recruit at the beginning of the year and assemblies
with the kids and stuff so we've had a nice response since Mrs.
Donnelly has accepted our program, too. So, we do get a lot of kids
from savannah, also.
TAYLOR: What time is the facility open?
REGAN: I usually get there.... it's about 2:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. so
it's a three hour.
TAYLOR: How much more will this expand over what the current program
is?
REGAN: Well, what I would like to see more of, if we went longer, I'd
like to get a TETRA program in there, involve more like we have in our
E1 Monte club since we are having older kids that are becoming
interested in it. Then next year we have quite a few that are going
to be in junior high and I wanted to incorporate more of the teen
training program.
TAYLOR: You'd expand the program to, what would that expansion
include?
REGAN: The teen training, what we do, for instance in E1 Monte is we
have a group of teenagers that have been with us for a little while
and when they get to be about 12 and 13 we start training them to help
with the classes, set up classes, basic job skills. We do a little
thing on the side that's like a separate club. You know, meet with
them once a month just to kind of give them their own individuality to
meet their needs as they're growing. I would like to go longer
because I'd like to see....I know there's an interest in these girls
in Rosemead to do this program and I'd like to provide it for them.
My objective is to keep these kids through high school and to have
them after school and to have them do positive things in the community
instead of being home by themselves from two to six.
McDONALD: What does the TETRA stand for?
REGAN: The TEen TRAining Program.
McDONALD: Two years ago when we put that teen training program into
effect in E1 Monte, just for information, we had the girls try to come
up with a name for themselves and they came up with TITS to begin
with. It was Teens In Training is what is was and we said NO! So,
they came up with this TETRA program but the concept is as far as the
young.... once they start in this elementary we found over the years in
E1 Monte that the teens wanted something that was specifically for
them because they're going through the changes of life and we get them
doing all sorts of things in the community and it's really nice. It's
like these other programs as you see that they're trying self-esteem,
this program also does that and that's one way of doing it and it's
worked out real well.
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REGAN: We have a positive response. What's nice in the community now
is our teens are going out in the community and we're getting people
excited about placing them in jobs in E1 Monte so that's we want
to offer them something even after high school and something they can
come back to.
TAYLOR: How can we evaluate the program other than the attendance?
REGAN: Anyone's more than welcome to come by the program and see how
we run it. In the summer time, E1 Monte, we go 40 hours just to get
an idea of.... to see our teens in action because in the summer time we
have more classes and the teens each take the responsibility of each
class. They all have their specific class that they help through and
I'd welcome anybody to come.by and view the program.
TAYLOR: I mean as far as evaluating the program, there were three
other groups, organizations prior to you and we were trying to get an
evaluation process of how successful the program and statistics on the
number of families and children that are helped and I really don't
know how to evaluate your program other than it's an optimistic one
and it encourages the children to participate. What kind of a check
point can we have on it?
REGAN: Well, if you'd like ...another thing I've done, I try to keep
in touch with the parents. I can put out an evaluation to the parents
to see their response and send copies to you if you'd like to do that.
There's the people in the community that volunteer, I can have them
write up an evaluation, also, to get their opinion about the program
and the changes, and the effects, positive, that they've seen, too.
IMPERIAL: Hard copy, facts and figures, is what I'm looking for.
TAYLOR: How does your....I don't have it in front of me or reviewed
all the information on your budgeting. Where's all the money come
from?
REGAN: Basically, there's two different plans that we had. One was
Plan A which would be a three day budget and the total budget was
$24,000 and we're requesting $14,000 and the rest of the $9,000 would
be donated.
MCDONALD: Total funding.....
TAYLOR: Overall, the organization, not just what you're asking from
Rosemead.
REGAN: You mean for the whole Rosemead program?
TAYLOR: The total program that you're operating, the sources of
revenue and where does that come from?
TRIPEPI: For example, Family Counseling gets most of its funding from
United Way, okay? We're looking overall.
REGAN: We get funding through United Way. We get community funding.
We get City funding. So, I don't have those exact figures on me right
now for the whole program.
McDONALD: Last year when we requested the budget because they were
funded last year, we get about $70,000 about half the budget, close to
half the budget from United Way. We have support of the woman's club
over there, the Soroptomists, the Rotary, the Kiwanis, the City gives
us in kind, they give us the building and the property and the
playgrounds plus $10,000 in cash, too. This program here is an
expansion. You asked what the expansion was. It does add another
day. It's a three-day program, right?
REGAN: Right and we want to go.... there were two of them. We've had
such a response from the parents that we'd like to at least go three
days a week.
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McDONALD: Last year we had.... it was a partial program last year. We
didn't get funded right away because it didn't get started right away
and it was about $8,000 or $9,000 that the City funded.
BRUESCH: Mr. Chairman. When you're talking about it in terms of
effects of programs you want a numerical value. About the only thing
you can-do is how many kids are serviced per dollar. There's actually
no way to judge the effect of a kid's program because you don't see
the effects until four, five, seven, ten, twelve years in the future.
We're talking about trying to put a numerical value on attitudinal
changes and that's something that the educational sector has been
struggling with for a century. How can you measure attitudinal
changes? You can't. You look out at a classroom of 32 kids and
you've got a master criminal and a genius there somewhere and you
don't know which one is which and you measure intelligence and all
sort of test scores but that doesn't tell you about the success of the
child. It's awful, awful difficult to find out what the effect of any
type program is, any type of diversion program, any type of police
program, any type of club program has on the attitudes of those
children and basically that's what clubs like these are dealing with
is attitudinal changes and maybe you can put it into terms of this kid
goes to school more often but that doesn't mean that in the future
that kid is going to become a good citizen of our community. It's
awful hard to judge.
REGAN: To me, the success of the program is that the kids come back
and they keep asking are you going to be going on in the summer, are
you going to be here next year and what are going to do? To me,
that's the success of the program and I see the positive response. To
me, when they come in and open their books and do their homework and
we have the older kids which help tutor them, that to me is success.
That makes a valuable program.
McDONALD: Another thing I'd like to mention is it is a girls club in
the respect that girls are in the club and that's all that's in the
club so it specifically works with girls, their attitude changes,
their building self-esteem. It's not like it's a part of let's say,
Family Counseling Services, working with mental health. We don't have
a specific thing that we diagnose the kids and say you've got a health
problem. But any time there is a problem with a child it's referred.
We refer them to other services or refer to their parents that they
need some sort of service. But what this is is more of a prevention
program that gives a place for young girls, after school, to go to
work with their peer groups, to be able to raise themselves, what do
they call that, the whole group itself, the self....
REGAN: It's a self-esteem building. It's a group self-structure.
MCDONALD: Right, where they become responsible for as she says, they
put them into groups, they have to make their own decisions and if
they make a bad decision they have to suffer the consequences from
their peers and it's really something that provides them with
something that the families don't and Ithink we know that throughout
all the communities that less and less is coming from the parents
because everything is sky high as far as cost of livings are
concerned. We have single family parents, they have to work and the
kids just don't have as much attention as they've had in the past.
So, this is more of a club atmosphere, a group building program and
like she says, actually this has more kids in it at this moment than
E1 Monte does. Soon as we opened the doors there were more kids in
it. So, it's something that has been very successful over there for
this last year and the only way that we measure it is that the kids
come back and we have kids from seven years old and as they grow in
the club, we start the TETRA program which is the teen program so it
helps them to adjust in that area and keeps them out of trouble.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. My comments and I want to be fair to each one of
you that have given a proposal I've asked this of all the others also
how to evaluate the program and the gentleman that was just here prior
to you, there's not a page on here but in your proposal it says
problems statement community need. We're hearing the same thing over
and over. We've got the teenage pregnancies here, the school dropout
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TAYLOR CONTINUES: rate, child abuse, drug abuse, gang violence,
outreach and they're all good intentions, every one of them. (Tape
turned over) the aid for the same intention and it's needed in
different areas of the City but there is a definite overlap and I
don't expect the kids from Rosemead to go down to Garvey or Garvey
come up to Rosemead or over to Muscatel or Garvey School. But I don't
know that's one reason I ask the funding. I don't know just how
they're interlinked. So far, from what I've heard, your funding
doesn't come from governmental agencies, as such.
REGAN: No. The majority of our funding is through United Way and
thank God we have a lot of community support.
TAYLOR: Again, I don't question the intent of yourself or anyone else
working in the program. The crisis is there. I mean even the schools
themselves, as far as they talk about the children that graduate and
their ability even when they get out. This is just a common fact in
every school district there's a certain failure ratio and there's no
way to evaluate to well, why did they all fail or why did most of them
succeed. You have to make that judgement call and it's the same thing
with this particular organization trying to evaluate and it really
gets down as I told the other gentleman it's kind of a psychological
thing or a mental thing. You can't evaluate when a kid goes out
feeling good at the end of the day or the ones that don't show up that
feel lousy during the day. It's extremely hard to validate. Not what
you're success ratio is or your failure it's just kind of a hit and
miss thing either the community continues to be a harmonious community
or it's disrupted with whether it's graffiti or gangs. It's just so
hard to evaluate the results. That's why I'm trying to find something
that well, we can point to a positive aspect of your particular
program and I have to agree you can get a certain amount of
satisfaction and I get a tremendous amount of satisfaction when you're
seeing kids and young people that are having a good time in
constructive activities but there are also a lot of those available.
Your organization provides one, Parks & Recreation has another
program, many youth groups, probably a dozen of them in the City.
REGAN: What is nice about our program though because we deal
exclusively with girls is and as they grow up and they hit puberty,
girls are more comfortable around other girls and I've seen this over
and over again. When you have the girls and the boys together they
segregate, anyway. And they get giggly and when it comes to certain
issues or any type of questions that they wish to ask they're
inhibited because of the boys being there. What's nice about our
program is we are girls and we can offer a positive service to girls
and they can be themselves. You know, they do things that they would
never do if it was as if it was a boys and girls club. They'd be off
giggling in a corner. One thing that I do like about our program is
we can help with the self-esteem. We can tell these girls there are
hundred of options out there for you. And they sit down and they talk
to us, they talk among themselves. They ask questions and I can
positively guarantee that if it was in a different situation these
questions wouldn't be asked and they would be more inhibited.
BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. I want to corroborate that. Even at the
programs in the Boys & Girls Club most of the activities are
segregated activities. They have sports for boys; sports for girls.
A teen club for girls; a teen club for boys. They all go participate
in the programs but the activities within the programs is for the
specific reasons that she states, the kids most in need are from ten
to fourteen. That age group, maturity-wise, the girls are much more
mature than the boys and they don't want to deal with the little kid
stuff that the boys deal with a lot of the times and they do have
specific needs and those needs are met better by having in their sex
grouping. That isn't speaking as a male chauvinist. It's just
reality.
REGAN: It's true.
MCDONALD: Okay. They're asking for an "A" program or a "B" program.
Does anybody want to make a recommendation on either of those or
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TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. In all honesty I'll say that I'm not going to
vote on it at this time because we deferred the other three proposals
and again I think that they all have good ideas and good concepts and
programs and again, I want to reiterate that it's nothing personal
with the organization at all. I just feel very uncomfortable. Next
year, I'm going to give you the RYA, which is the baseball
organization we have. We have the Rosemead Little League in
operation. We have the American Soccer Association and there are
other groups. Maybe they're fortunate And we have the Rosemead Rebels
who were funded this year, partially on a one-time request and I'll
say right now, that I will vote no on that project when it comes back
because they made a commitment, it was a one-time.... I dread to see
these organizations who have a community support behind them you
mentioned the organizations that are helping you.... there just seems
to be when there's a hole or a leak some place organizations tend to
come around, well, we will get more government funding and I dread to
see that. I respect all the organizations but this going in from so
many organizations, how do we draw the line? Yours is one of the
better ones of the three so far because it isn't government funding
coming through. United Way, it's been what I'd like to see as true
community support not a government agency, just a place to draw money
from. And these other organizations, they deal with several hundred.
Three hundred to five hundred children and they're positive programs.
But I respect them for the integrity and the ability that they have to
make that organization work. Their internal policing that they have,
the monitoring, the discipline. It's so hard for me to say okay well
I'm going to give in here and then they come in and say we need the
money, too. We would like to show you what we can do. And pretty
soon they start relying on government agencies and then you see
exactly what's happening with the LA mental, the County. They say
we've got to cut these funds. We don't have enough to keep putting it
out. The gentleman just before you said that there is an excess now
of funding available for Alzheimer's disease. That money's available
for that program now but we cut the others and we'll try this program
for a while. It's extremely frustrating for me to appropriate these
monies. Not because of what your intent is but because everybody's
entitled to start drawing from it. So, I can't vote on your program
even though I agree with what you're doing and we've turned down the
others, we deferred those. We are becoming so selective. We either
give it to all fifteen of them because of their positive aspect or we
have to screen it out. So, I feel frustrated not to say, gee I
support you a hundred percent and I want to do it but I can't do that
fairly.
IMPERIAL: Request we defer this as the rest and ask for some
information.
MCDONALD: You have some specific information that you'd like?
IMPERIAL: Well, she volunteered whatever information she could get,
Mr. Mayor, from parents and what have you. She's already made a
statement that she could get this information. I'd like to see what
she's got in hard copy.
REGAN: No problem.
McDONALD: Let me make a comment here. I think the Council's the one
that has to make decisions on things. Gary doesn't think that when we
give money back to the community that it's part of the community.
That taxpayer's money is the community money. It certainly is not
ours. We just happen to be the group that makes the determination
that Rosemead needs that service. If Rosemead needs that service, yes
we're a governmental agency but we're collecting those taxes because
of the population that we have in the City and that's community money.
So, when we support that we're supporting it as a community priority
that we as the elected officials see as a need and a service in this
community.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. I agree with your comment, one hundred percent.
No dispute. It's not our money. It's the taxpayer's money and we
have to administer it equally and fairly and sometimes discriminatory
to which organizations get it. No question. I said I agree with one
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TAYLOR CONTINUES: hundred percent and I do. It is taxpayer's money.
But there has to be that discretion and decision. We can't please
everybody. We all know that. I don't dispute any organization but
it's just a mushrooming effect. Why is it that the federal government
and the state government, no new taxes, we're not going to increase
taxes in California. And yet they're clamoring, we've got to do it,
we've got to do it. And then they're turning it around, they're
closing the trauma centers. We can't afford these, that's their
reasoning. We've got to close these trauma centers. They're too
expensive. They're losing millions of dollars every year, all of
them. Now, the mental health people are cutting back which is a
bigger government agency by any standard. The Los Angeles mental
health facilities, they're closing them. And they're coming to the
local communities, and again this is not these organizations I'm
questioning, it's just this social policy that's going on. It's going
to get much worse. As I asked the lady before is it going to increase
10%, 400, 70% for her next year's program when she said over the last
two years, it's increased hundred percent. And I don't have the
answer. So, I agree with your comment. It's a hundred percent
taxpayer's money.
McDONALD: Irregardless, though. As these services are cut from the
federal government or cut from the state government, cut from the
county government, we have a certain amount of monies there. If we
believe these services should be provided to our people here in
Rosemead we have to take up a certain amount of the slack because it's
their money and they're not getting the service. So, we have to set
the priority. When we don't have the money, we can't spend it. When
we've got the money at least we could provide the services that are
available out there. It's no good just to keep it in the bank and
saying well, maybe something's going to happen. While we've got the
money we ought to provide the services.
IMPERIAL: I think you're absolutely right when you say, set
priorities. And that's what we're trying to do and that's the reason
we're asking for this information.
McDONALD: Give her a little more specifics on the information.
IMPERIAL: Okay. We just talked about this. She said she had no hard
copy on anything.
McDONALD: What do mean hard copy? For what?
IMPERIAL: I'm talking about facts and figures, Mr. Mayor.
McDONALD: Fact and figures on what? That we've prevented two
pregnancies because we talked to them?
IMPERIAL: Did you ask me a question? Or did you ask it so you can
answer it?
McDONALD: That's what I'm asking. She needs something specific.
IMPERIAL: When I say specific, I'm saying she said she had no
information on everything she's done, her success rate and what have
you; she would get some letters and what have you. Right now, we have
nothing, okay? I'm not casting any stones but I can tell you I'm the
world championship skier but you're going to want to see some
credentials. What I'm saying in reality is I want to see some facts
and figures so we can determine that like we're going to do everybody
else in all fairness, and set our priorities.
McDONALD: I'm not arguing that. We're going to defer that but she
needs something specific to give you the information. Now, we can
make statistics say anything they want. We can say we have thirty
girls there, we prevented all of them from getting pregnant so our
pregnant prevention program has worked elaborately.
IMPERIAL: Am I allowed to ask for addresses of the people who have
participated?
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REGAN: Sure. I have all the enrollment papers.
IMPERIAL: All right. Give me a list of the kids.
McDONALD: Okay, that's good.
IMPERIAL: Letters from the parents, and what have you. This is what
you suggested, anyhow. Did you understand this?
REGAN: Yes, this is fine.
IMPERIAL: Okay, then I don't think she has a problem understanding
me, Mr. Mayor, it's right here.
McDONALD: No, there's not a misunderstanding because I'm a staff
member in a City and when I ask for information or somebody asks me
for information, I want to know exactly what they want otherwise I'm
either too much leg work or not enough.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. A comment just to settle that one issue. I think
that we've hassled these things in the past that you know and I
know ...maybe we don't make it a specific point and stressful of it but
each time these come up we're talking basically the same thing as far
as backup information. Each time it comes up. And they present a
proposal but staff again for whatever reason oversight, you name it.
They know that we most of the time get into these detailed discussions
on it to justify and verify what we're doing. So, we need that
information and whatever we can get.
McDONALD: I just was wondering because they were funded last year,
okay, like the Rosemead Chamber of Commerce last year, and like
Willdan Associates last year and I saw the proposals from them and
there wasn't any backup information so what I wanted to get her is a
list of things that she could explicitly get for you that you see that
you needed to make a determination, yeah or nay on their funding.
TAYLOR: On the chamber, they presented a 100% copy of what their
budget is, listed the whole thing in this proposal and it's been an
ongoing thing for what, fifteen, twenty years, Frank? As far as the
Chamber being involved? And Willdan being our....
TRIPEPI: Nine or ten. Mr. Mayor. I was going to say the staff is
well aware of the information that has been requested and we'll put it
in a format so that you can at least do apples and apples and I'll get
with Debra and work out or somebody on staff will. We know what
you're looking for.
REGAN: When would like this information?
TRIPEPI: Next week. We can get together with you. We'll work
something out.
BRUESCH: Mr. Mayor. I think that the Council is asking for a policy
to be established that when proposals are made that A, B, C, D, E, F
be given to the Council as backup material each time. We should
develop a little checklist for each of these organizations to do so.
One thing. There's two comments on that type of checklist. Number
one is I don't think we can logically ask for what is the effect your
program has on the local population because again what I said before
you're dealing with a affective domain, you're dealing with
attitudinal changes. The only thing you can say.....
TRIPEPI: Mr. Bruesch. I think we.... what we understand that.
What we're looking for, we're looking for budgets, we're looking for
where the funding comes from, the total organization. Secondly, we
want percentages of the population that you serve for this City since
we're going to be funding part of the program. We understand that.
BRUESCH: One thing I do want put on there is the amount charged to
each participant, Mr. Mayor. I want the amount charged as membership
fees to each participant and the percentage of the budget that comes
from admission fees or whatever you call them.
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TAYLOR: That would be all of these organizations.
BRUESCH: All of them.
McDONALD: Okay, so that's deferred.
TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor. This is something that has become kind of a new
source of funding for organizations. We had the Boys Club come in,
then we had the Girls Club. Now, we've got a couple of more. In all
honesty, and we also had the Rebels come in, I see that there's ten to
fifteen organizations in the future that are entitled to request the
money. I would ask, and I'm going to go deeper into these fundings to
try to get a correlation of why this is coming about, but in fairness
to these people that sit here I'd like the comments on these
organizations and they can all get a copy of the Minutes, verbatim so
they understand where I'm coming from as an Agency and you gentlemen
had comments, also. But I don't want any of them to feel slighted
that we're choosing favoritism. So, if there's no objection I'd like
that in the Minutes, their comments so that they're treated fairly.
MCDONALD: There's got to be discrimination because we're the ones who
make it....
TAYLOR: True, but they'll understand why.
McDONALD: Right. Because there are some that we can't fund when they
come in and there's some we can fund.
IMPERIAL: I prefer to call it setting priorities instead of
discrimination.
TAYLOR: Good word.
McDONALD: Setting priorities is discriminating.
END OF VERBATIM DIALOGUE
A twenty-minute recess was called at this time and the meeting was
reconvened accordingly.
WE-TIP - 01-4200-760
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that
the Council appropriate $3,260 for fiscal year 1990-91. Vote
resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
WEST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY JUVENILE DIVERSION PROJECT - 01-4200-770
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that
the Council appropriate $47,200 for fiscal year 1990-91. Vote
resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
II. CONSENT CALENDAR
Account numbers 4120-010, 4200, and 4780 were removed for
discussion.
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Councilman Taylor requested a full breakdown for account number
4110-190 to explain the 75% increase in the annuity fund; verified
that account number 4300 for law enforcement was an estimate only; and
asked about 4350, the dues for the Area "D" membership;
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY MAYOR McDONALD that the
accounts not removed for discussion be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye:
McDonald,
No:
Taylor
Absent:
DeCocker
Abstain:
None
Bruesch, Imperial
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Taylor stated that there were several accounts and that
he had questioned a few of them but that he was opposed to the salary
increases as a policy concept regarding account numbers 4700, 4740,
4750, 4800, 4810, 4820, 4830, and 4850 and requested that account
number 4800-180, the sick leave buy.back, be removed from the Parks &
Recreation administrative budget and moved to the City Administrative
Department. Mr. McDonald requested that the amounts be reflected in
each account affected.
4120-010 - CITY CLERK
Councilman Bruesch asked why this account had not always been
shared with the Redevelopment Agency.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that this had been an
oversight and was based on the actions of the previous City Clerk.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY MAYOR McDONALD that
Account 4120-010 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4200 - COMMUNITY PROMOTIONS
Councilman Bruesch requested a memo regarding Accounts 4200-110,
-120, -130, and -140 relating to the City Newsletter, regarding what
steps were being taken to obtain a contract for these services.
Mr. Tripepi stated that several letters of interest had been
received from people who provide this service and that a formal
request for proposal is being prepared for the Council to review.
Mr. Bruesch requested a copy of the proposal as soon as it has
been prepared.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY MAYOR McDONALD that
Account 4200, less the accounts previously deferred, be approved.
Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4780 - SOLID WASTE
Councilman Bruesch noted that the waste subsidy was approaching 7%
of the total budget and speculated that the subsidy next year would be
10%.
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It was noted that the trash subsidy should be ending with the
current contract's expiration next year.
Councilman Bruesch was concerned that funds should be set aside
now for any consultant work that may be required in order to comply
with AB 939.
Mr. Tripepi noted that any necessary fees could be taken from
the appropriated reserve at such time when the monies may be needed.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY MAYOR MCDONALD that
Account 4800 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and'so ordered.
Councilman Imperial questioned Account 4700-012, Code
Enforcement, and asked if this indicated a new position in this
department.
Mr. Tripepi stated that there would be only the two current
positions, one split through the Redevelopment Agency and one split
through the Community Development Block Grant program.
III. CONSIDERATION OF REMAINING ACCOUNTS - CAPITAL OUTLAY
4120-910 - City Clerk
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that
Account 4120-910 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4130-910, 920 - FINANCE
This request is for the purchase, installation and necessary
training for an in-house computer system and the elimination of the
need for using a data processing company.
MOTION BY MAYOR McDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4130-910, 920 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Bruesch requested the amount that would be needed to
renew the maintenance agreement next year.
4240-920 - CITY GARAGE
For the replacement of a vehicle, Unit 2, consisting of $9,000
from the City and $9,000 from the Redevelopment Agency.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4240-920 be approved. Vote resulted:
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Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4500 ALL ACCOUNTS - CONSTRUCTION, STREETS & HIGHWAYS
Councilman Taylor asked the ratio for the storm drain and the
signal at Encinita/Lower Azusa - 4500-963.
Alfonso Rodgriguez, City Engineer, stated the signal would be
approximately $80,000.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4500 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4720-910 - ENGINEERING
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4720-910 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4800-850, 900 - PARRS ADMINISTRATION
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4800-850, 900 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4810-860, 870, 900 - PARRS
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that
Account 4810-860, 870, and 900 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4820-820, 860, 870 - RECREATION
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY MAYOR McDONALD that
Account 4820-820, 860, and 870 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
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4830-900, 930, 940 - AQUATICS
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that
Account 4830-900, 930 and 940 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4840-850 - RECREATION FEE & CHARGE
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that
Account 4840-850 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
4880 - ALL ACCOUNTS - PARR PROJECTS
Councilman Taylor asked for about the repairs that had been done
at Rosemead Pool and Garvey Pool.
Mr. Tripepi stated that the repair history on both pools for the
past ten years be given to the Council.
Councilman Bruesch requested a labeled diagram of the surge pit
system.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR; SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that
Account 4880 be approved. Vote resulted:
Aye: Taylor, McDonald, Bruesch, Imperial
No: None
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
IV. CONSIDERATION OF PERSONNEL RECOP94ENDATIONS
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, recommended a 5.5% cost of
living adjustment (COLA) with a 0-5e merit increase, based on the
individual's performance and work effort, for all City employees.
Mayor McDonald requested that the COLA and the merit increase be
considered as two separate items.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that the total increase be limited
to 6% for both items and this motion died for lack of a second.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that the COLA be limited to 5.0%
and this motion died for lack of a second.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECOND BY MAYOR McDONALD that the
Council approve the 5.5% COLA. Vote resulted:
Aye: McDonald, Bruesch
No: Taylor, Imperial
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that
the COLA be approved in the amount of 5.6% for fiscal year 1990-91.
Vote resulted:
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Aye: McDonald, Bruesch Imperial
No: Taylor
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH that
the Council approve a 0-5% merit increase as recommended by the City
Manager. Vote resulted:
Aye: McDonald, Bruesch Imperial
No: Taylor
Absent: DeCocker
Abstain: None
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
It was noted that this included the City Manager.
Councilman Taylor stated that his vote reflected no
dissatisfaction with staff but that he had a philosophical difference
as far as what the cost should be and it was no reflection on any
individual.
Mayor McDonald ascertained that the four items that had been
deferred would be placed on a regular meeting agenda when the
information requested had been obtained.
There being no further action to be taken at this time, the
meeting was adjourned at 12:45 p.m. to June 12, 1990, at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted: APPROVED:
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CAYty Clerk MAYOR
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