TC - 06-06-96AGENDA
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION
8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, CA 91770
Regular Meeting
June 6. 1996
Call to Order: 7:00 p.m.
Roll Call: Commissioners Iarson, Ruiz, Tirre,
Chairman Alarcon
Pledge of Allegiance: Vice-Chairperson Knapp
Vice-Chairperson Knapp,
Invocation: Chairman Alarcon
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular meeting of May 2, 1996. /V
II. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
This is the time reserved for members of the audience to address the Commission on
items not listed on the agenda (Maximum time per speaker is 3 minutes; total time
allocated is 15 minutes).
III. OLD BUSINESS
IV. NEW BUSINESS
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PARKING COMPLAINT AT 3117 WALNUT GROVE AVENUE (NORTH OF
GARVEY AVENUE) - This is a request for parking restrictions on Walnut Grove I /
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Avenue due to trucks parking north of the dnveway of 3117 Walnut Grove
Avenue. /
MISSION DRIVE EAST OF ROSEMEAD BOULEVARD - DELINEATORS -
This is a request from the Traffic Commission to review the delineators on
Mission Drive for possible replacement with large botts dots (turtle dots).
V. STAFF REPORTS
A. CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS-MAY 14 & MAY 28
B. ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 766 BY THE CITY COUNCIL - The City
Council adopted an ordinance amending regulations relating to solicitation of
employment, business or contributions in certain areas. This ordinance was
adopted at the May 28, 1996 City Council Meeting.
VI. COMMISSIONER REPORTS
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Thursday, July 11, 1996 at 7:00 p.m., Rosemead Council Chambers, 8838 E. Valley
Boulevard, Rosemead, CA 91770
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 2. 1996
The regular meeting of the Rosemead Traffic Commission was called to
order by Chairman Alarcon, at 7:00 p.m., in the Council Chambers,
8838 East Valley Boulevard, Rosemead.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Alarcon
Commissioners: Larson, Ruiz, Tirre & Knapp
Ex Officio: Administrative Aide: Brad Johnson
Deputy Traffic Engineer: Joanne Itagaki
CALL TO ORDER
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Larson
The Invocation was delivered by Commissioner Knapp
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Commissioner Tirre, seconded by Commissioner
Ruiz, and carried unanimously to approve the minutes for
March 5, 1996, with the following correction:
- Lt. Heller was the person who introduced Sgt. Edgington.
It was moved by Commissioner Knapp, seconded by Commissioner
Larson, and carried unanimously to approve the minutes for
April 4, 1996.
II. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - None
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. SAN GABRIEL BOULEVARD/GARVEY AVENUE DAY LABORERS
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki presented the report. This
item was brought before the Commission on March 7,1996. The
Commission directed staff to contact other cities to
determine what solutions they may offer.
RECOMMENDATION:
Was to install "No Parking Anytime" signs around the square
as shown in Figure 1.
VERBATIM DISCUSSION
FRANK LARSON
Mr. Chairman, by putting these signs up and putting the
responsibility on the people in the Mall (Diamond Square), Is
this really the answer, or are we just passing the problem
along to somebody else. If I come in there and need 2 guys
to come to my backyard to help me clean up, by the time the
Sheriff's Department, I'm gone. Are we going to force the
people who own these stores to put up signs?
I think a "No Loitering" sign would be more appropriate, we
got the Donut Shop across the street and there is 10-12
people hanging around there. Are we going to penalize that
owner because he's open at 5:00 o'clock in the morning? I
feel we are passing the problem along to somebody else.
DAN TIRRE
Mr. Chairman, if we put up the "No Parking Anytime" signs up,
I don't think Diamond Square would want that too much,
especially on the weekends.
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VICTOR RUIZ
Has anyone contacted the merchants at Diamond Square and
asked their opinion?
BRAD JOHNSON
Not that I'm aware of.
HOLLY KNAPP
Mr. Chairman, I think this came to us from Mr. Imperial, and
I'm wondering if he's had personal contact with the merchants
in the Diamond Square, and if that's where the complaint is
originating from.
I question installing signs on the south side of Garvey
Avenue, I don't think it is even feasible to stop there on
the south side of Garvey Avenue from my street to Garvey
Avenue because of the traffic flow. I've never seen any
parking there at all. Now whether people stop there and pick
up these guys. They stay on the corner of Pine Street but
they don't get picked up between Pine and San Gabriel
Boulevard. I think what we will have if we do this is, you
will find that they will all move over to Pine Street. I
agree with Mr. Larson, I don't think we are going to solve
this problem by putting signs up.
FRANK LARSON
We have to come up with some kind of a loitering ordinance.
We are penalizing all of the people that own businesses in
the area for something they have no control over. This is
going to explode into something bigger, because you can't see
what's behind that Donut Shop. It's about 18 feet long, and
on any given day after 10:00 a.m. in the morning there's a
dozen people there, there's no telling what they are doing
between the back of the thing and the fence line on the
trailer park. I think we should put up loitering signs like
the ones on liquor stores.
VICTOR RUIZ
I feel we are just passing down the buck. We're just going
to move them over to Pine Street and surrounding areas, and I
feel we are penalizing the merchants as well as the citizens
of the Community. This is really a tough decision that Mr.
Imperial put upon us, it really should go back to the
Planning Commission or the Council.
WILLIAM ALARCON
Perhaps we should table this item until we have an
opportunity to talk with Councilman Imperial and check with
the merchants.
JOANNE ITAGAKI
I think I can answer that for you. The letter I received was
from Councilman Imperial in response to a meeting he had with
the enforcement personnel and the merchants of Diamond
Square. They discussed with the Sheriff's Department what
can be done. Basically, it is difficult because it is public
right-a-way.
HOLLY KNAPP
Is the "No Loitering" sign that Mr. Larson is recommending,
is that a Traffic Commission or is that a Planning Commission
responsibility.
FRANK LARSON
I make a motion that we send this to the Planning Commission
and have them review it and look for some kind of an
ordinance, that can take care of this.
DAN TIRRE
I second that motion.
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WILLIAM ALARCON
It sounds like we're just passing the buck, so maybe we can
just amend the motion to say that we recommend the "No
Loitering" signs and see if it's within our jurisdiction or
if it'll get bounced back at us.
HOLLY KNAPP
Maybe this is something we can look at jointly as both
Planning and Traffic Commissioners, in order to take some of
the brunt off of the Council, and to present maybe a working
type of recommendation, from both Commissions.
VICTOR RUIZ
What about setting a time frame, have we looked into that?
Instead of reading "No Stopping Anytime", how about setting
from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m., and explore those avenues. We
don't want to penalize the whole Community in general because
of certain individuals.
JOANNE ITAGAKI
That's a possibility as well.
WILLIAM ALARCON
We have a motion and a second.
HOLLY KNAPP
You made the amendment, Mr. Chairman to try to come up with
some sort of a solution.
Commissioner Larson withdrew his motion, and Commissioner
Tirre withdrew his second to the motion.
It was moved by Commissioner Knapp, seconded by Commissioner
Alarcon to give our findings and discussion tonight as a
staff report to the Planning Commission, and see if they can
take action, or to make some sort of a joint action together.
VOTE RESULTED:
AYES: Chairman Alarcon, Commissioner Tirre,
Commissioner Knapp, Commissioner Ruiz
NOES: Commissioner Larson
ABSTAINED: None
ABSENT: None
B. NEW BUSINESS
REQUEST FOR CROSSING GUARD IN FRONT OF EMERSON SCHOOL - 7544
EMERSON PLACE
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki presented the report. This
request came from Ms. Pat Slusser,.Principal of the school.
Ms. Slusser is requesting the crossing guard at Emerson Place
and Prospect Avenue
RECOMMENDATION:
The placement of a crossing guard at Emerson Place and
Prospect Avenue was recommended. It was further recommended
that the existing red curb be marked "No Stopping Bus Zone"
to allow the school bus to legally stop in this area.
Commissioner Knapp stated that she is concerned with the back
of the school at Whitmore Street, at the pedestrian
crosswalk. Emerson School might be requesting a crosswalk at
that location, sometime in the future.
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki stated that those gates are
kept closed, because of security problems.
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Commissioner Larson suggested that the bus zone be moved
east.
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Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki stated that she will be
writing a letter to the school further indicating what are
recommendations were, and also include changing the bus zone.
Commissioner Larson stated that this would be more convenient
for the teachers and better visibility for the crossing
guard.
It was moved by Commissioner Larson, seconded by Commissioner
Knapp, and carried unanimously to approve the Traffic
Engineer's recommendation. In addition, to moving the Bus
zone east entrance gate, and use that gate instead of the one
they're using now.
STAFF REPORT
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki introduced Chris Turnball,
who will be taking over for her during her maternity leave.
Her maternity leaves begins in July.
Commissioner Knapp asked the Commission if they should change
the date of the July Traffic Commission from July 4, 1996 to
July 11, 1996.
COMMISSIONER REPORTS
Commissioner Larson inquired as to when the yellow bumpers
were going to be installed at River. He inquired if there
could be an international sign stating "No Left Turn into
Driveway" posted underneath.
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki stated that she could look
into the timing of bumps, and if it's going to take a long
period of time to do the sign.
Commissioner Knapp stated that she would like to see turtle
dots installed at Hellman and San Gabriel Boulevard at the
Liquor 8. This is for cars travelling north on San Gabriel
making a left turn on Hellman and a left turn into the Liquor
Station.
Commissioner Knapp also stated that at Hellman/Walnut Grove
and Ramona exiting the freeway, she would like staff to look
into phased lighting with the green arrows, from 4:00 p.m. -
7:00 p.m., at this location.
Deputy Traffic Engineer Itagaki stated that this is called
"Split Phasing", and is aware that the City Manager has been
discussing some changes in that.area, because the Cal-Trans
yard is vacant.
Commissioner Knapp directed staff to look into installing a
4-way stop sign at Hart and Steele Street. Cars seem to be
travelling at fast speed.
Commissioner Tirre stated that on Sullivan and Garrett
Streets, there is a sign regarding the lighting being
installed that has been placed directly in front of the fire
hydrant, that should be moved up a little
Chairman Alarcon extended his gratitude to the out-going
Mayor Joe Vasquez, for his support for the past year and
welcome the new Mayor Margaret Clark.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the
Commission, the meeting as adjourned at 7:45 p.m. The next
meeting will take place on June 6, 1996.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION
FROM: JOANNE ITAGAKI, DEPUTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER T".
DATE: MAY 28, 1996
RE: PARKING COMPLAINT AT 3117 WALNUT GROVE AVENUE
(NORTH OF GARVEY AVENUE)
REQUEST
A request has been received from Mr. Rubin Baxley on behalf of the residents of
3117 Walnut Grove Avenue. The concern is trucks parking north of the driveway
at 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue blocking visibility of vehicles exiting the driveway.
The residents are requesting red curb or some other parking restriction to remove
these trucks.
CONDITIONS
Walnut Grove Avenue is a 64 foot wide secondary arterial with two lanes of traffic
in each direction separated by a double yellow centerline. The posted speed limit
on Walnut Grove Avenue is 40 mph.
In the vicinity of 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue, parking is permitted on both sides of
the roadway. Residential uses front Walnut Grove Avenue. Immediately north of
the subject location, the playground area of Willard Elementary exists.
Figure 1 depicts existing conditions.
DATA
The reported accident data for the period from January 1, 1994 through September
30, 1995 was reviewed. This indicated no accidents involving vehicles exiting a
driveway on to Walnut Grove Avenue between Dorothy Avenue and Garvey
Avenue.
DISCUSSION
Staff field reviewed the location on several occasions throughout the day. It
appeared that the same truck parked north of 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue.
Observations indicate the driver crossed the street to enter a residence on the east
side of Walnut Grove Avenue.
The City does have the "No Parking Vehicles over 80-inches" restriction. This
restriction, however, does not apply to the type of vehicles observed parked in the
vicinity of 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue.
Visibility constraints at other residential locations on Walnut Grove Avenue may
exist since parking is allowed on the street. To remove any parking to improve
visibility, however, may generate more complaints than resolve the any possible
visibility problems. The reported accident data of vehicles exiting driveways is
considered favorable in that no accidents of this type have been reported in the
last two years (approximately). This indicates that vehicles are using appropriate
caution when exiting their driveways.
The visibility of vehicles on Walnut Grove Avenue from 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue
is inhibited by the trucks parked north of the property. The installation of red curb
or "No Stopping Any Time" restrictions will improve the visibility. This visibility
constraint is unique to other residential locations on Walnut Grove Avenue in that
a school, not fronting Walnut Grove Avenue, is the "neighbor" north of the subject
property. The removal of parking on the "backside" of the school does not cause
a negative impact to school's parking needs.
RECOMMENDATION
The installation of "No Stopping Any Time" restrictions on the west side of Walnut
Grove Avenue north of 3117 Walnut Grove Avenue is recommended. Figure 1
depicts this recommendation.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS
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FROM: JOANNE ITAGAKI, DEPUTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER
DATE: MAY 28, 1996
RE: MISSION DRIVE EAST OF ROSEMEAD BOULEVARD -
DELINEATORS
REQUEST
At the request of the Traffic Commission, staff has reviewed the delineators
installed on Mission Drive east of Rosemead Boulevard. The Commission has
requested staff to review these delineators for possible replacement with large
botts dots (turtle dots).
CONDITIONS
Mission Drive is a 64-foot wide secondary arterial throughout the City. There are
two lanes of traffic in each direction separated by a double yellow centerline.
Dedicated left turn pockets exist in the eastbound and westbound directions at
Rosemead Boulevard. The posted speed limit on Mission Drive is 40 mph.
Class 1, Type I channelizers (delineators) exist between the double-double yellow
lines of the westbound left turn pocket on Mission Drive at Rosemead Boulevard.
The delineators are approximately 3 feet in height and spaced approximately 5 feet
apart. The double-double yellow lines identify a median that cannot be legally
crossed.
Figure 1 depicts these conditions.
DISCUSSION
The existing delineators on Mission Drive were originally installed to prevent left
turns entering and exiting the driveway on the south side of Mission Drive (In-n-Out
Burger). The delineators have been effective to a degree. With only one
delineator knocked down, a 10 foot space is created between the remaining
delineators. As soon as this occurs, vehicles attempt to execute the left turns.
Another point that has been discussed in the past is the flexibility of the
delineators. Some motorists have realized that the delineators will, in most cases,
"bounce back" after they've been hit and cause little, if any, damage to vehicles.
This has caused some motorist to flagrantly disregard the delineators.
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June 6, 1996
Rosemead Traffic Commission
Discussions with the City's maintenance contractor indicate the delineators on
Mission Drive are a constant maintenance item. The primary maintenance
requests are replacement of missing delineators or returning "fallen" delineators to
an upright position. However, during staffs field review of the location, all the
delineators were in place in an upright position.
Staff reviewed the large botts dots installed on Garvey Avenue at Diamond
Square. These dots have been in place for approximately 2 months. They appear
to have few tire marks traversing over the dots which would indicate vehicles
crossing the dots. In fact, most tire marks were along the sides of the dots in the
direction of travel. The large dots appear to be affective in eliminating left turns
entering and exiting the driveway at this time.
The delineators have been affective when they have been properly installed and
maintained. However, once knocked down or crossed, motorist appear to be less
inhibited to violate the prohibition. Currently, the large botts dots are affective in
eliminating the left turns entering and exiting the Diamond Square driveway. Their
long term effectiveness, however, is unknown.
RECOMMENDATION
Due to the current effectiveness of the large botts dots, it is recommended they be
installed between the double-double yellow lines on Mission Drive at the left turn
lane for westbound traffic. It is further recommended the delineators be removed.
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STAFF REPORT =
TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEMORANDUM
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION
FROM: BRAD JOHNSON, ADMINISTRTIVE AIDE
DATE: JUNE 6, 1996
SUBJECT: CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS - MAY, 1996
On May 13, the City Council took action on the following Traffic Commission
recommendation:
1. INSTALL "TURTLE DOTS" WESTBOUND GARVEY AVENUE EAST OF RIVER
AVENUE/ROSEMEAD PLACE.
COUNCIL ACTION: Approve as recommended by the Commission
On May 28, the City Council took action on the following Traffic Commission
recommendation:
1. REQUEST FOR CROSSING GUARD AT EMERSON SCHOOL-EMERSON
PLACE AND PROSPECT AVENUE.
COUNCIL ACTION
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive and File.
Approve as recommended by the Commission.
TRAFFIC COMMISSION
STAFF REPORT =
TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEMORANDUM
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION
FROM: BRAD JOHNSON, ADMINISTRTIVE AIDE
DATE: JUNE 6, 1996
SUBJECT: ORDINANCE NO. 766-AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF ROSEMEAD AMENDING REGULATIONS RELATING TO SOLICITATION OF
EMPLOYMENT, BUSINESS OR CONTRIBUTIONS IN CERTAIN AREAS
On May 28, 1996 the Rosemead City Council adopted Ordinance 766 which addresses the solicitation of day
laborers along San Gabriel Boulevard and Garvey Avenue (see attached ordinance). However, the City would
also like to see "No Parking" signs installed along the south side of Garvey Avenue from San Gabriel
Boulevard to Pine Street and on the west side of San Gabriel Boulevard from Garvey Avenue to approximately
720 feet southerly.
The addition of the "No Stopping" signage is being encouraged to help the City further discourage solicitors
from stopping in this area. The new ordinance requires that the Sheriff's personnel be present to site violators.
With the addition of the "No Stopping" signage the City will also be able to use Parking Control Officers to
write citations, this will give the City another tool to address the problem.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends that the Traffic Commission discuss this item again at a future meeting.
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