PC - Minutes 11-02-81a
CITY OF ROSEMEAD
8838 VALLEY BOULEVARD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 2, 1981
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER - The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of
Rosemead was called to order,by Chairman Lowrey at 7:45 p.m., in the Council
Chambers of Rosemead City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard,.Rosemead, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Mattern.
The Invocation was delivered by Commissioner Schymos.
2. ROLL CALL - Present: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Absent: None
Ex Officio: Kress, Dickey, Carmona, Christianson, de Zara
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular Meeting, October 19, 1981
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Schymos, to
approve the Minutes of October 19, 1981, as printed.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - On matters not on the Agenda
Chairman Lowrey asked if anyone present wished to address the Commission.
No one came forward.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Due to the"large number of people present for Design Review 81-6, Chairman
Lowrey announced that this matter would be heard out of order.
5. DESIGN REVIEW 81-6: Design review of a cogeneration facility proposed by
California Federal Savings and Loan. Association for construction at their
facility located at 1515 Walnut Grove Avenue.
The public hearing was opened at 7:50 p.m.
The witnesses were administered the oath by the secretary.
PROPONENT:
Mr. Peter Benzian
Latham &Watkins
555 South Flower Street.
Los Angeles, California
Mr. Benzian stated that he was representing California Federal Savings & Loan
Association. He then-addressed the Commission regarding the proposed mitigating
Negative Declaration and.the opposition to the adoption of this document. In
addition, he informed the Commission that California Federal Savings & Loan wished
to discuss a proposal with the plaintiff in the litigation to alleviate his
concerns with the close proximity of the cogeneration facility to his property.
The proposal was to relocate the cogeneration facility approximately 185 feet
away from the western boundry.of the residential area. He further stated that
this relocation would cost several thousand dollars; however, in the interest
of alleviating the problems encountered, California Federal Savings & Loan would
be willing to accept the loss. In addition; Mr. Benzian stated that the Chairman
of the Board for California Federal Savings & Loan was committed to being a
"good neighbor".
Mr. Benzi.an then requested that the Commission continue this public hearing until
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Regular Meeting - November 2, 1981
Page Two
the following Monday, November 9, 1981, in order to allow the concerned parties
time to meet and discuss the proposed relocation of the cogeneration facility.
There was then a discussion by the Commission regarding the request for con-
tinuance. Chairman Lowrey heard comments by the Commission regarding this
matter and polled the Commission. It was the consensus of the Commission to
conduct the public hearing as scheduled. -Mr. Benzian then requested that
California',Federal be given an opportunity to meet with the plantiff, Mr. Schwartz,
to resolve the matter before the courts at this time.
The Staff Report dated November 2, 1981, was presented by Mr. Carmona. During
his presentation, Mr. Carmona showed several slides of other cogeneration plants
he and his staff had investigated and visited. In addition, he explained. some
of .the mitigating measures to be.employed to lessen or prevent any environmental
impacts. Further, Mr. Carmona explained .ihe procedure utilized to arrive at the
recommendation of adoption of the mitigating Negative Declaration. He also
addressed the Commission regarding the various consultants he obtained information
from regarding cogeneration facilities. Approval of the project, subject to the
mitigating measures contained within the Negative Declaration, was recommended
by Mr. Carmona.
Chairman Lowrey then asked anyone wishing to address the Commission in favor of
this project to come forward.
Mr. Benzian then stated that the proponents would waive their right to address
the Commission first, but requested that he be allowed an opportunity to speak
at the end of the testimony by the opposition.
Chairman Lowrey then asked anyone wishing to address the Commission in opposition
to the project to come forward.
OPPONENTS:
Leroy Abelson, Esq.
O'Neill & Huxtable
800 West First Street, Suite 200
Los Angeles, California -
Mr. Colin Gordon, Technical Manager
Bolt, Bannen, & Newman
1817 Phillips Way
Los Angeles, California
Estelle Holtz
8247 Bleeker Street
South San Gabriel, California
Robert Keeney
4405 Rosemead Boulevard
Rosemead, California
Tom Enrico, Jr.
8456 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
Alan Dimond
1921 North Delta Avenue
Rosemead, California
Nels Roselund
8453 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
John Vollaire
8753 East Palmcreek
Rosemead, California
Lynn Enrico
8456 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
Carol Camboa
1826 Rosebrook Lane
Rosemead, California
Isabel Sacco
1634 North Delta Avenue
Rosemead, California
Carol De Buck
8440 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
Eugenio Hernandez
8411 East Yarrow
South San Gabriel, California
Vivian Veljasik
8216 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
Bill Gurrola
1804 Rosebrook Lane
South San Gabriel, California
Juanita Espinoza
1551 Arland
South San Gabriel, California
Angie Gurrola
1804 Rosebrook Lane
South San Gabriel, California
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Regular Meeting - November 2, 1981
Page Three
Robert Bruesch Ernest Wallo
3126 Isabel Avenue 8459 Yarrow
Rosemead, California South San Gabriel, California
Linda Roselund Mrs. H. Edward Ross
8453 Yarrow Street 1727 Eckhart Avenue
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Sheila Perez Bessie Epps
1300 North Walnut Grove Avenue 8748 Palmcreek Drive
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
S.C. Edinger Olga Milton
8649 Landisview Lane 8412 Sarah Street
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Vern Holtz Crystal Slater
8247 Bleeker Street 8259 Sleeker Street
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Holly Knapp Johnny Farrell
8376 East Whitmore 8421 Yarrow
Rosemead, California South San Gabriel, California
Ramon Garcia Alice Mercado
2606 Willard Avenue 1311 North Delta Avenue
Rosemead, California South San Gabriel, California
Ray Ysais Bobbie Alvarez
8457 Sarah 1723 Delta Avenue
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Robert Jermil James Brogdon
8502 Village Lane 2438 Paljay
Rosemead, California Rosemead, California
Leona Gross Fred Thom
8551 Village Lane 8390 Rush Street
Rosemead, California Rosemead, California
Cindy
Arikaki
David
Nakamura
8238
Bleeker Street
8302
Sierra Bonita Avenue
South
San Gabriel, California
South
San Gabriel, California
Edward Arikaki Christian De La Cruz
8238 Sleeker Street 8239 Crain Drive
South San Gabriel, California Rosemead, California
Susan Smith James B. Kawuhara
12119 Hemlock Street 1508 Delta Avenue
E1 Monte, California South San Gabriel, California
Richard Durant Pauline Galindo
8217 Sierra Bonita Avenue 8424 Sarah Street
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Cheryl Morseburg Dorothy Lee
8453 Sarah 3018 North Willard
South San Gabriel, California Rosemead, California
Richard Baumann Jeanette Burnack
8305 Scenic Drive 8405 Yarrow Stteet
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Fred Farley Leonard Bress
1609 San Gabriel Boulevard 1809 Delta Avenue
Rosemead, California Rosemead, California
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Regular Meeting - November 2, 1981
Page Four
Oscar Arroyo
8329 Rush Street
Rosemead, California
Arthur Archer
1426 Mountain Vista
South San Gabriel, California
Ray Espinoza
1515 Arland
South San Gabriel, California
Pete Sacco
3220 Walnut Grove Avenue
Rosemead, California
Lou Shynin
8447 Drayer Lane
South San Gabriel, California
Leona Brayer
8461 Drayer Lane
South San Gabriel, California
Anna Shynin
8447 Drayer Lane
South San Gabriel, California
Fred Bettsworth
1825 Delta Avenue
South San Gabriel, California
Alfred Mercado
1311 Delta Avenue
South San Gabriel, California
Juan Nunez
2702 Del Mar Avenue
Rosemead, California
Ray Slater
8259 Sleeker Street
South San Gabriel, California
Marcella Bettsworth
1825 Delta Avenue
Rosemead, California
Herman Funk
1805 Delta Avenue
South San Gabriel, California
Owen Perez
1300 Walnut Grove Avenue
Rosemead, California
Connie Kranske
1742 Eckhart
South San Gabriel, California
Frank Frontino
1539 North Arland
South San Gabriel, California
Paul In
1708 Kelburn
South San Gabriel, California
Hannah Farrell
8421 Yarrow Street
South San Gabriel, California
Maurice Terizu
1801 North Gladys
South San Gabriel, California
Jim Brassman
8593 East Village Lane
Rosemead, California
Phillip Aguilar
7916 Nannestad
South San Gabriel, California
Hector Esparza
8504 La Madrina
South San Gabriel, California
Eric Circe
8439 Drayer Lane
South San Gabriel, California
H. Edward Ross
1727 Eckhart
South San Gabriel, California
Dave Delgado Mark Schwartz
8231 Bleeker Street 1638 Delta Avenue
South San Gabriel, California South San Gabriel, California
Mr. Abelson began the testimony by introducing Mr. Colin Gordon, Technical
Manager of an acoustical firm.
Mr. Gordon stated that he was hired by Mr. Abelson to verify noise level figures
contained within the Sound Study conducted by Ultra Systems. He stated that he
had not had much time to review the report; however, he had formed the opinion
that the analysis was incomplete, that the estimated noise levels were too low,
and that noise generated by the cooling towers had not been sufficiently
analyzed.
Mr. Abelson then stated that he was representing Mr. and Mrs. Schwartz in their
lawsuit against California Federal. In addition, he made comments opposing the
adoption of the Negative Declaration, and encouraged the City to complete an
Environmental Impact Report (EIR). Mr. Abelson also stated that it was his
belief that the reports submitted to the Commission were incomplete and biased in
California Federal Savings and Loan's favor. Further, Mr. Abelson stated that
he did not believe that the mitigating measures contained within the Negative
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Regular Meeting - November 2, 1981
Page Five
Declaration were sufficient to ensure that there would not be a significant
effect on the environment. Mr. Abelson also commented on the noise levels,
aesthetics, and additional pollution that could be generated as a result of
this cogeneration plant. In addition, Mr. Abelson informed the Commission
of the City's liability in the pending lawsuit brought forth by Mr. and Mrs.
Schwartz.
The remainder of the opponents addressed the Commission regarding their concern
for the health, safety, and welfare of the residents of the area. Further
comments expressed included the additional noise, pollution, compensation for
property damage and loss of property value, as well'as the need for an EIR,
the close proximity to three schools in the area, the alleged lack of information,
California Federal's loss of credibility in the area, and the use of taxpayer's
money to pay legal fees incurred by the-lawsuit. Additional suggestions were
also made, including a smaller facility, relocation of the facility and not
constructing the facility at all.
During the testimony of the opponents, Chairman Lowrey called a recess at 9:50 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 10:05 p.m.
PROPONENTS:
Mr. Peter Benzian then resumed the floor. He began by introducing several of
the consultants retained by California Federal Savings and Loan to design their
computer facility. In addition, he stated that they could provide expert
testimony regarding the considerations and design of the project.
Mr. Benzian also commented on the three issues raised by the opposition. They
were noise, pollution, and aesthetics. Further, he stated that comments regarding
the City's liability in the lawsuit made by Mr. Abelson were inaccurate and in-
correct in that California Federal was not holding the City of Rosemead liable;
and, further, that no determination regarding Mr. Schwartz's entitlement to legal
fees had been rendered by the court. In addition, Mr. Benzian addressed the
Commission regarding the comments by Mr. Abelson that the study by Ultra
Systems was biased. In this regard, Mr. Benzian informed the,Commission that
Ultra Systems was an independent firm with no connection with California
Federal or the City of Rosemead whatsoever, and that the South Coast Air
Quality Management District (SCAQMD) had reviewed the figures as well. Further,
he stated that the SCAQMD would be granting permits for the construction of the
facility within a short time, and Cal Fed would also be required to obtain
permits from SCAQMD for the operation of the cogeneration facility. In addition,
this facility could not be operated without the permits from SCAQMD.
There was then a discussion regarding the NOX emission standards and Mr. Benzian
expressed his desire to put the figures quoted into perspective. Further
considered during this testimony were comments by Mr. Roger Nappi of Purcell &
Nappi Associates regarding the sound attenuation levels. Mr. Nappi stated that
the DBA levels were 45 DBAs and not 55 DBAs. In addition, he addressed the
Commission regarding the testing conducted on another facility similar to this
one, and stated that the vibration would be kept to a minimum because of the
mitigating measures and the springs to be utilized in the system. In addition,
he offered to review of his figures and computations with Mr. Gordon.
The question of aesthetics was then discussed. Mr. Benzian stated that this
was, perhaps, the most difficult question to resolve because appearance was a
matter of personal taste.
Chairman Lowrey also inquired regarding the,type of back-up-generator would be
utilized. There was also a discussion regarding the additional data requested
by the Commission and the length of time required to gather the pertinent
information. Also discussed was the change of noise levels if the facility were
to be moved as proposed by the project proponents at the onset of the public
hearing; There was also consideration given to the agreement of California
Federal not to operate the cogeneration facility if it was found that they
could not meet the standards set forth in the report, and the submittal of a
maintenance plan to ensure that the facility would always operate at the same
level of efficiency. Mr. Benzian agreed to these requests by the Commission.
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There was then a discussion by the Commission regarding the continuance of the
public hearing to the following Monday, November 9, 1981. Mr. Abelson requested
that the persons who spoke in opposition of this project be notified of the
continuance, and staff was directed by Chairman Lowrey to do so. In addition,
Mr. Abelson requested that the 300 foot radius be expanded to Rush Street so that
those residents would be aware of this matter being continued.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Chairman Lowrey, to continue
the public hearing for Design Review 81-6, to Monday, November 9, 1981.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
6. TENTATIVE TRACT 42312: Request by Winifred Saunders for the subdivision of an
existing lot, located at 3853 Muscatel Avenue, into seven (7) single-family
residential lots. (Continued from October 19, 1981)
Chairman Lowrey stated that the applicant in this matter had left, and that the
consideration of this request would be continued to the next regular meeting,
November 16, 1981.
Hearing no objections by the Commission, staff was directed to place this item
on the agenda for November 16, 1981, and notify the applicants.
OTHER BUSINESS
7. PC RESOLUTION 81-36 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-233, FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8810 EAST GARVEY AVENUE, ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Dickey read the Resolution by title only.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner De Cocker, to
waive further reading and adopt PC Resolution 81-36.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
8. PC RESOLUTION 81-37 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-234 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9423 VALLEY BOULEVARD, ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Dickey read the Resolution by title only.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Chairman Lowrey, to waive
further reading and adopt PC Resolution 81-37.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
9. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - On any matter
Chairman Lowrey asked if anyone present wished to address the Commission.
No one came forward.
10. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF
A. Commissioner Ritchie stated that the Modification Committee hadrecommended
approval of two requests for modifications on pfoperties located at 8655
Marshall and-2459 La Press.
11. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Chairman Lowrey
adjourned the meeting at 12:20 a.m., to Monday, November 9, 1981, at 7:30 p.m.