PC - Minutes 10-19-81CITY OF ROSEMEAD
8838 VALLEY BOULEVARD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 1981
MINUTES
1. CALL TO,ORDER - The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of
Rosemead was called to order by Chairman Lowrey at 7:30 p.m., in the Council
Chambers of Rosemead City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Ritchie.
The Invocation was delivered by Chairman Lowrey.
2. ROLL CALL - Present: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Absent: None
Ex Officio: Reisman, Dickey, Carmona, de Zara
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular Meeting, October 5, 1981
Commissioner Ritchie requested that the discussions for Conditional Use Permits
81-233 and 81-234 go into more detail in citing the reasons for the denial of
the requests. He stated that he felt that this was necessary in order to accurately
reflect the matters considered by the Commission. Specifically, he requested a
mention of the petition submitted opposing the issuance of Conditional Use Permit
81-233 and the number of existing businesses in the area selling alcoholic beverages.
In addition, he requested that the reasons be set forth in the Resolutions submitted
to the Commission for formal adoption.
There being no objections by the Commission, the amendments were so ordered.
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Mattern, to approve
the Minutes of October 5, 1981, as amended.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: Lowrey
Chairman Lowrey stated that he abstained from the vote because he was not present
at that meeting.
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE: On items not on the Agenda
Chairman Lowrey asked if anyone present wished to address the Commission.
No one came forward.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
5. TENTATIVE TRACT 42312: Request by Winifred Saunders for the subdivision of an
existing lot, located at 3853 Muscatel Avenue, into seven (7) single-family
residential lots.
The Staff Report dated October 19, 1981 was presented by Mr. Carmona, and the
recommendation for approval was made. During the presentation, Mr. Carmona
requested the following amendments:
-Requirement of a swale and drainage easement for Lots 1, 2, and 3.
-Installation of one street light.
Chairman Lowrey opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
The witnesses were administered the oath by the secretary.
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Regular Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Two
PROPONENT:
Mrs. Winifred Saunders
3853 Muscatel Avenue
Rosemead, California
Mrs. Saunders stated that she was the applicant and was present to answer any
questions by the Commission with regard to her request.
Chairman Lowrey closed the public hearing at 7:50 p.m. _
There was a lengthy discussion regarding requiring a drainage device to direct
the water flow of Lots 1, 2,.3, and 4 towards Muscatel Avenue. Commissioner
Ritchie stated that he felt this would be necessary due to the loss of absorbtion
caused by the covering of the ground. Also considered during this discussion
was the use of a swale and drainage easement, and the proposed drainage plan
which called for the drainage to be natural and directed to the rear of the
property. Commissioner Ritchie stated that he would like to require, as a condition
of approval, a provision for the drainage easement to be recorded with the final
tract map, and a review of the drainage plan; prior.to final tract map recordation.
Commissioner Schymos then stated his opinion that the water should be drained
into the cul-de-sac and then directed onto Muscatel Avenue. He also suggested
that the property be graded to direct the water in the desired direction.
A lengthy discussion ensued regarding the drainage pattern of the property, the
effect that grading would have on the cost-of the project, the necessity for the
grading requirement, and Commissioner Ritchie's concern with protecting Lots 1,
2, 3, and 4 from excessive water. The Commission also considered Commissioner
Ritchie's suggestion for a drainage easement. In addition, there was a discussion
regarding the absence of a proposed drainage.plan. -
Chairman Lowrey called a recess at 8:15 p.m. due to problems with the tape recorder.
The meeting reconvened at 8:25 p.m.
The discussion continued with regard to the variances requested to the setbacks.
Commissioner Ritchie requested clarification of the setback requested for Lot 7.
Mr. Carmona stated that the 10 foot setback indicated on the tract map was correct.
A lengthy discussion then continued regarding the placement of the homes on the
lots in order to achieve the smallest amount of variance possible, and the allowance
of a larger setback in the rear yard in order to provide as much outdoor living
space as possible.
Commissioner Schymos expressed his opinion that the five-foot garage setback
should be increased, and the.rear yard setback reduced to ten feet, in order to
increase the front yard setback to 20 feet for Lots 1, 2, and 3. In addition to
this,.he stated that Lot 6 could be required to meet the same standards, and
increase the garage setback to 25 feet and the dwelling setback to 20 feet. He
further indicated that Lot 5 could be subject to the same requirement, thereby
reducing the need for a variance to Lot 7, only. Commissioner Schymos also in-
quired regarding the status of the street just west of Muscatel. He requested
information regarding the City's intention to make this street a through-street.
There was then a discussion regarding the maintenance of the street, and Mr.
Dickey indicated that it was a private street and not a dedicated public right-of-
way. Commissioner Schymos then stated that the matter should be researched and
clarified prior to the Commission making a recommendation to the City Council.
Mr. Dickey then advised the Commission to defer a decision on this matter until
the additional information could be obtained. The Commission then considered
continuing the matter. It was the consensus of the Commission to defer the
vote on the zone variance consideration and tract map consideration, but continue
with the discussion in an attempt to resolve other areas of concern. The con-
sideration of vacation of the street continued with Commissioner Schymos reviewing
the history of the street for the rest of the Commission. Commissioner Schymos
also requested information regarding the Subdivision Map Act and Department of
Real Estate, and compliance with the laws governing this type of subdivision.
Mr. Carmona offered an explanation of the Subdivision Map Act process. Commissioner
Schymos then suggested that the Commission be provided with information regarding
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Regular. Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Three
the street, the restrictions imposed by the Department of Real Estate, and the
possibility of approving the request and making that approval contingent upon
the determination that this subdivision would not interfere with any street
plans.
Commissioner Mattern suggested the addition of a condition-that this map be
approved, providing that the proposed" development of both the street and the
houses did not interfere with each other. Mr. Reisman then suggested the
following to address this concern:
"Approval is contingent upon there being no conflict or potential conflict between
this subdivision and a proposed street, easement, or right-of-way through the
subdivision."
There was a discussion regarding the proposed condition, and the applicant was
asked if the continuance of the matter would cause an untimely delay to the
project. Mrs. Saunders indicated that it would not. It was the consensus of
the Commission to continue this matter. Since no one in the audience had left
the Council Chambers, Chairman Lowrey reopened the public hearing at 8:55 p.m.
The Commission was polled regarding the reduction of the rear yard setbacks on
Lots 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 to 10 feet providing a 25 foot setback to the garages and
an 20 foot setback to the dwellings. Commissioners Ritchie and Mattern expressed
their disagreement, and Commissioner Ritchie offered an alternate solution.
Commissioner Schymos again expressed his disagreement and the basis for his
opinion.
Commissioner Ritchie then proposed a condition requiring the homes to be placed
on Lots 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 so that there would be a 25 foot driveway to the
garage, and that the structure on Lot 7 be situated such that there would be a
3 foot setback behind the garage. There was then a discussion regarding the
proposed condition, and Commissioner Schymos' suggestion that the setbacks for
the garages should be 25 feet for Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. During this
discussion the applicant was asked what type of homes were being considered.
Mr. Wayne Saunders was administered the oath by the secretary.
PROPONENT:
Mr. Wayne Saunders
3907 North Muscatel Avenue
Rosemead, California
Mr. Saunders answered various questions by the Commission regarding the proposed
development of the lots.
The following condition was proposed by Commissioner Ritchie:
"Lots 1 and 2 will require a 25 foot setback for the garage and a 15 foot rear
yard setback; Lot 3 shall have a 10 foot minimum setback to the rear of the gar-
age with the remainder of the setback to be 15 feet; Lot 4 will require no variance;
Lot 5 shall require a minimum of 15 foot setback and a 25 foot driveway; Lot 6
shall have a 25 foot setback for the garage, and a minimum of 10 feet setback
behind the garage; and Lot 7 shall have a 20 foot setback for the driveway and
a 5 foot setback for the rear of the garage."
The Commission was then polled regarding the addition of the condition, and it
was the consensus of the Commission to add this to the conditions of approval.
The discussion regarding the drainage then continued. Mr. Carmona proposed the
following condition:
"The drainage of Lots 1, 2, 3, and 4 shall drain to Muscatel by utilization of
a drainage device, (i.e., swale constructed as part of the block wall footing),
It shall be required to be installed per the City Engineer's corrections and
approval, prior to the acceptance of the final map."
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Regular Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Four
There being no objections by the Commission, the addition of the condition was
so ordered.
Commissioner Ritchie then requested the addition of the following items:
(1) Add the variance of lot width of Lot 6 facing the street for inclusion
in the requested variance.
(2) Change the section on the chart where it stated that a 15-foot setback is
requested to 10 feet, since 10 feet is the correct amount.
(3) Clarify the location of the sewer.
(4) Remove the wording regarding the proposed natural drainage from the
original tentative tract map.
Commissioner Ritchie also requested the following additions to the conditions
of approval:
"A street light shall be installed at the west end of the new street."
Condition No. 4 regarding the block wall fence:
. .there shall be steel supports set in concrete. and the 6-foot
block wall shall be 6 feet high from the adjacent property line. .
There being no objections by the Commission, the aforementioned changes were
so ordered.
Commissioner Ritchie then inquired regarding the one year time requirement for
installation of improvements. Mr. Carmona stated that a performance bond would
be required of the developer and the City would construct the street utilizing
those bonds, should the developer fail to comply with this condition in the
given time. There was then consideration given to the performance bonds, and
where the performance bond is required. Commissioner Ritchie requested that if
this was not stipulated in the report, that it be added as a condition of
approval, as follows:
"A performance bond for the installation of the street shall be posted by the
applicant. If the applicant fails to install the street within one year from
the date of approval of the final tract map, the performance bond shall be
utilized by the City for the installation of the street."
Commissioner Ritchie also requested the same type of stipulation for the
peripheral block wall fence. Mrs. Saunders then inquired what her obligation
would be should she decide not to subdivide her property. Mr. Carmona stated
that the street would have to be installed as a result of this subdivision being
recorded with the County Recorder; however, if the map did not record, the lot
would remain intact and undeveloped. He further cautioned her that the approval
would expire, and then the subdivision would become subject to the process again,
if she failed to record in the given time.
Staff was directed to include the proposed changes, deletions, and additions in
the next staff report regarding this request.
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Mattern, to
approve the filing of a Negative Declaration for Tract 42312, and the findings.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Mattern that the
Commission approve the request for Zone Variance 81-98, as described in Tentative
Tract Map 42312, as modified, and the findings.
There was then a discussion regarding the motion on the floor. Mr. Reisman stated
that this motion and decision would only be a tentative approval, and the final
approval would be formalized by the adoption of a resolution; however, the approval
or conditions could not be amended in any way at the time of adoption of that
resolution.
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Regular Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Five
Commissioners Ritchie and Mattern then withdrew their motion for approval.
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Mattern, to con-
tinue the approval of Zone Variance 81-98 to November 2, 1981, to allow an
investigation of the street consideration.
Commissioner Schymos then stated that he wished to remind Mr. Carmona that the
Commission was requesting information from the Department of Real Estate as
well as information regarding the street.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner De Cocker, to
continue the approval of Tentative Tract 42312 to November 2, 1981.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
OTHER BUSINESS
6. MODIFICATION TO SECTION 8110: Request by Robert Cristler for a waiver of the
sidewalk requirement for property located at 2517 Dubonnet.
The memorandum dated October 19, 1981 was presented by Mr. Carmona.
There was a discussion by the Commission regarding the request for a waiver.
Commissioner Schymos stated that there were other sidewalks existing on this
street, and recommended that the waiver not be granted. Commissioner Mattern
expressed his opinion that the waiver should be granted.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Chairman Lowrey, to deny
the request for a waiver of the sidewalk requirement for property located at
2517 Dubonnet.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: Schymos, Lowrey
Noes: De Cocker, Ritchie, Mattern
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to
grant the request for a waiver of the sidewalk requirement for property located
at 2517 Dubonnet.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: Schymos, Lowrey
MODIFICATION TO SECTION 8110: Request by Jose and Irene Ortega for a waiver
of the.sidewalk requirement for property located at 3437 Rockhold.
The memorandum dated October 19, 1981 was presented by Mr. Carmona.
Commissioner Schymos made a statement regarding this request and proposed that
a bond for installation of the improvement be required.
Chairman Lowrey polled the Commission with regard(to requiring a bond to be
posted. It was the consensus of the Commission to deny the request for a waiver
and accept a bond for the improvement.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to deny
the request for a waiver of the sidewalk'installation andirequire a bond to be
posted for the improvement.
There was then further discussion by the Commission regarding the amount of the
bond to be required, and Mrs. Ortega's opposition to posting a bond. Mr. Dickey
addressed the Commission with regard to the assessment district process for
achieving the installation of street improvements. Mrs. Ortega stated that the
posting of a bond would create a financial hardship for her and her family.
Commissioner De Cocker stated his opinion that the waiver should be granted.
It was moved by Commissioner De Cocker to grant the request for a waiver of the
sidewalk for property located at 3437 Rockhold. The motion died for lack of a
second.
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Regular Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Six
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to
deny the request for a waiver of the sidewalk, and require the posting of
a bond for the installation of the improvement.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: De Cocker
MODIFICATION TO SECTION 8110: Request by Don Y. Webb for a waiver of the re-
quired installation of full street improvements on property located at 3648
Chariette.
Mr. Dickey informed the Commission that at the last Council meeting, the
Council had accepted a petition requesting the installation of curb, gutter,
and driveway approach for the entire street. He also stated that owner of
record had signed the petition, which was contrary to this request.
There was a discussion by the Commission regarding the estimated time the
improvements would be installed. Mr. Dickey stated that this would be requested
for the next fiscal year budget.
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Schymos, to deny
the request for a waiver of full streetimprovements for property located at
3648 Chariette, and require the posting of a bond for the installation of the
full street improvements.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Schymos, Lowrey, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
7. PC RESOLUTION 81-36 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-233 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8810 EAST GARVEY AVENUE, ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Dickey read the Resolution by title only.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner De Cocker, to
waive further reading and adopt PC Resolution 81-36.
Commissioner Ritchie then requested that this Resolution be amended to describe
the specific considerations and reasons why the conditional use permit was denied.
The reasons were the petition submitted by the residents in the area, and the
existing number of businesses selling alcoholic beverages in the area.
Mr. Reisman then recommended that the adoption of the resolution be deferred,
until such time the requested amendments could be incorporated into the Resolution.
It was agreed by the Commission that this Resolution would be adopted at the
next regular meeting, November 2, 1981.
Commissioners Schymos and De Cocker then withdrew their motion for approval.
8. PC RESOLUTION 81-37 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-234 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9423 VALLEY BOULEVARD, ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Dickey read the Resolution by title only.
Commissioner Ritchie requested that the adoption of this Resolution be deferred
until November 2, 1981 for the same reasons cited in the discussion of the
previous Resolution.
Commissioner Schymos expressed his disagreement with the inclusion of all the
specific reasons for denial. There was then a discussion regarding the appeal
process utilized by the City Council in considering an appeal.
There being no objections by the Commission, the adoption of PC Resolution 81-37
was deferred to November 2, 1981.
9. PC RESOLUTION 81-38 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD GRANTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-232 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A
CHRUCH ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3926 RIO HONDO AVENUE, ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA.
Mr. Dickey read the Resolution by title only. In addition, the Commission was
informed that an appeal had been filed with the City Clerk.
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Regular Meeting - October 19, 1981
Page Seven
It was moved by Commissioner De Cocker, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to
waive further reading and adopt PC Resolution 81-38.
Commissioner Mattern requested that Condition No. 7 under Section 4 be clarified
by adding . as measured from the adjacent property. between the words
"wall" and "decreasing".
There being no objections by the Commission, the amendment was so-ordered.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: Schymos
Absent: None
Abstain: Lowrey
Chairman Lowrey stated that he abstained from the vote because he was not
present at the last meeting.
10. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE: On any matter
Juan Nunez
2702 Del Mar Avenue
Rosemead, California
Mr. Nunez.addressed the Commission with regard to Section 8110, and the assessment
process utilized by the City for-the installation of street improvements.
11. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF
A. Mr. Carmona informed the Commission that the City Council had authorized their
attendance at the seminar on December 7 and 8. He requested that the members
of the Commission wishing to attend notify staff within the next few weeks.
Commissioners Schymos, Ritchie, and De Cocker indicated that they would be
attending.
B. Commissioner Mattern stated that he would like to clarify statements made by
Mrs. Saunders earlier in the evening. He stated that he commented that the
project has merit; however, Mrs. Saunders had misinterpreted the statement
to mean that this project would be approved. Further, he stated that he did
not guarantee, or promise that this project would be approved.
C. Commissioner Ritchie requested the scheduling of study sessions for the
Condominium Ordinance and the Zoning Ordinance. After a short discussion,
a study session was scheduled for Monday, October 26, 1981 at 7:00 p.m. to
consider the Condominium Ordinance.
D. Chairman Lowrey congratulated Commissioner Ritchie on his reappointment to the
Planning Commission. Chairman Lowrey also stated that Commissioner Ritchie
has been an asset to the Planning Commission.
E. Commissioner Schymos made a statement regarding the assessment process utilized
by the City, and the posting of bonds to guarantee that the improvements will
be installed.
12. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Chairman Lowrey
adjourned the meeting at 10:30 p.m., to the Study Session scheduled for Monday,
October 26, 1981, at 7:00 p.m.