PC - Minutes 08-02-82CITY OF ROSEMEAD
t 8838 VALLEY BOULEVARD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 2, 1982
" MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER - The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City
of Rosemead was called to order by Chairman Ritchie at 7:30 p.m. in the Council
Chambers of Rosemead City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Mattern
The Invocation was delivered by Chairman Ritchie.
2. ROLL CALL - Present: DeCocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Lowrey, Mattern
ExOfficio: Kress, Rankin, Carmona, Christianson
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular Meeting July 19, 1982
It was moved by Commissioner Lowrey, seconded by Commissioner Schymos to approve
the minutes of July 19, 1982 as printed.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: DeCocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Lowrey, Mattern
4. ORAL COMMUNICATION' FROM THE AUDIENCE - None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
5. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 81-240 - A request for an amendment to a previously
considered Conditional Use Permit for the establishment of the Church in Rosemead
at 2451 Gladys Avenue, and 2454 San Gabriel Boulevard, Rosemead.
The Oath was administered.
Mr. Carmona presented the staff report explaining that this request was a
modification to a design of a basic plan approved several months ago. He explained
the modification was looked at to see what advantages this re-design had over the
previous one and presented them as follows: 1. The building height was lowered
from a two story to a one story; 2. There was an increase of 17 parking spaces; and
3. The closure of a building break on the south side increased the privacy to
residents on Gladys Avenue. Mr. Carmona stated that based on these findings and
the fact there will be no increase to the 250 seating capacity the department
recommended approval of the design modification as offered.
Chairman Ritchie opened the public hearing at 7:35 p.m.
PROPONENTS
Rev. Dan Hardy, 2451 Gladys Avenue - Rev. Hardy complimented Mr. Carmona on his
presentation of the changes to the original design and felt the
new design has improved the project, and expressed his anxiousness
to proceed with the construction of the church.
Mr. David Wang; Civil Engineer, 4416 Franklin Avenue, L.A. - Mr. Wang stated his
appreciation to Mr:_Carmona and the Planning Commission for their
patience as this was the third time they came before the Commission.
He stated the final revision was based on all the City's previous
desires and expressed desire to proceed with the project.
Mr. Frank Baltano, 8848 Monogram, Sepulveda - Mr. Baltano explained he heard of
the churchs' request and wanted to ask the Commission to give the
request favorable consideration.
Mr. Ernest Liu, 22553 DeLaRosa, Glen Hills - Mr. Liu stated that based on the
revisions of the plan for the better he hoped the Commission would
give it favorable consideration.
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Mr. Pat Thomasino, 10747 Reseda, Northridge - Mr. Thomasino discussed the increased
parking that would be provided under the plan.
Mr. Tom Leyland, 8207 Lennox, Panorama City - Mr. Leyland expressed his positive
experiences with the church.
Mr. David Moyer, 8725 Woodley Ave., Sepulveda - Mr. Moyer expressed his feelings
that the modification to the plan was an improvement and he was
anxious for a speedy go-ahead with the plans.
Mr. Terence Rogers,.4172 Perlida, L.A. - Mr. Rogers expressed his desire to have
the modification approved.
William Devane, 9919 Gothic, Sepulveda - Mr. Devane explained he was an Elder of
the church and a Chairman of the Board and discussed the revisions
to the previous plan and also explained to the Commission that the
church would like to be able to come back at some future date and
ask for an increase to the seating capacity as they anticipate
the congregation increasing with time.
Commissioner Schymos asked Mr. Devane where would the additional seating be provided
should this become necessary and Mr. Devane stated he wasn't sure at this time, he
only wanted assurance that he could request this at a later time.
Darrell Brown, 2451 Gladys,.Rosemead - Mr. Brown stated as a .person living in the
immediate area he wished to work with the people of the church and
also discussed sidewalk,changes due to the project.
Carol Gloria, 404 E. Markland, Monterey Park - Ms. Gloria, expressed her experiences
with the church and her desire to have it located close to her
home.
OPPONENTS
Mrs. Loretta Olea, 2449 Gladys Avenue -,Mrs. Olea expressed that the modification
would ultimately allow for more persons on the property.as the seating
.-capacity did not really reflect how many persons were using all the
rooms and the increase of parking spaces would increase traffic on
the site and therefore affect her property.
Chairman Ritchie closed the public hearing at 8:05 p.m.
Discussion by the Commission.
Commissioner Mattern questioned the applicant on the moveable walls as indicated
in sheet two of the plot plans. Mr. Hardy explained the use of these moveable walls
was for simultaneous language usage, not to provide added floor area and the floor
area behind them was included in the total square footage.
Commissioner DeCocker commented that although the new building coverage was
relatively the same as that previously approved he felt that the increase in
the parking area caused a substantial decrease to the landscaped areas and also
felt it was the church's ultimate goal to increase the seating capacity to 400 in
the sanctuary. Commissioner DeCocker stated he could not support this request
because of the decrease in landscaping.
-Commissioner Schymos stated that although he was not present for the original
approval he did review the design but did agree with the original concept, however
he was'disappointed with the changes made to the plan and also felt he could not
support the request for a modification.
Chairman Ritchie asked Mr. Carmona what the seating capacity was for 83 parking
spaces.
Mr. Carmona responded and concurred that it would be 415 seats
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Chairman Ritchie questioned Mr. Wang,-the applicant's engineer, if the facility
was being built in such a manner-so that an additional story may be added.
Mr. Wang said definately not.
Chairman Ritchie discussed comparisons between the previous design and the one
proposed and stated that even though the floor area has been decreased the
paved area has been increased and the landscaping has been decreased by one third.
Chairman Ritchie further expressed his concern and dislike for the long lines
of parking stalls without any relief, or use of landscaped breaks.
Mr. Tom Leyland addressed the Commission regarding the landscaping in so far as -
he felt that the landscaping would not affect the City's overall look because
of the landscaping provided along San Gabriel Boulevard, and also the shape of the
lot lent itself to various ways landscaping could bearranged.
Mr. Carmona requested a moment to clarify some points: 1. At present (the modified
plan) , under the U.B.C. , the main building is capable of an occupancy of 396 persons,
therefore in the future if the church wished to-increase its occupancy it would be
possible without expanding the present main building beyond its exterior walls, and
2. The applicant has received approval of 66 parking spaces, and is proposing 83,
it would therefore be possible to reduce the parking (by 7 or 8 spaces) along
the landscaped area to provide more landscaping at this time, and then at a future
date, if the church increases its congregation these landscaped areas could
revert back to parking spaces.
(MO) It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, seconded by Commissioner DeCocker to deny
the amendment to Conditional Use Permit 81-240.
Discussion on the motion.
Chairman Ritchie asked Mr. Carmona if the previous design could accommodate room
for 400 persons. Mr. Carmona stated that no it could not. Chairman Ritchie further
asked if on the original proposal the sanctuary could be expanded to hold approximately
400 persons. Mr. Carmona said conceivably yes as far as the square footage goes.
There being no further discussion on the motion the vote was cast as follows:
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: DeCocker,..Schymos, Ritchie, Mattern
NOES: Lowrey
Chairman Ritchie informed the applicants this decision could be appealed.
Chairman Ritchie called a 5 minute recess. Commission reconvened at 8:45 p.m.
OTHER BUSINESS
6. WAIVER REQUEST TO SECTION 8110 - A request by Mrs. Marian Callahan, 3407 Chariette
Avenue for the installation of'sidewalks in accordance with Section 8110 of the
Municipal Code.
Commissioner Schymosi: expressed his desire to impose a condition of acquiring
dedication of right-of-way on the properties where Section 8110 waivers are granted,
thus alleviating any possible future problems when improvements are put in under
the 1911 Street Improvement Act.
Discussion followed regarding factors involved in obtaining right-of-way with
waiver requests and Chairman Ritchie suggested that items 6 &r•7 be considered
tonight as presented and bring this matter up to Mr. Dickey's attention and perhaps
include this information (whether right-of-way is dedicated or not) on all future
Section 8110 waiver requests.
It was moved by Commissioner Lowrey, seconded by Commissioner to grant a waiver
request from Section 8110 for property located at 3407 Chariette.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: DeCocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Lowrey, Mattern
7. WAIVER REQUEST TO SECTION 8110 - A request by Mrs. Nancy Lee, 8322 Hellman
Avenue, for the installation of sidewalks, curbs and gutters in accordance with
Section 8110 of the Municipal Code.
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Mr. Rankin offered that this portion of Hellman Avenue was already scheduled
in this years budget for full street improvements.
It was moved by Commissioner DeCocker, seconded by Commissioner Mattern to
grant the waiver to Section 8110 for 8322 Hellman Avenue.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: DeCocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Lowrey, Mattern
8. PC RESOLUTION 82-25 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO PROVIDE FOR GARAGE SALES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
City Attorney Kress read the resolution by title only.
It was moved by Commissioner Schymos seconded by Commissioner Lowrey to waive
further reading and adopt.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: DeCocker, Schymos, Ritchie, Lowrey, Mattern
9.' ORAL COMMUNICATION FROM THE AUDIENCE - None
10. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF
a. Commissioner Schymos discussed his desire to have the City Council consider
deleting Section 8110 from the Municipal Code as the section appears to have
become obsolete in so far as its intent.
Chairman Ritchie, and Mr. Kress gave the Commission a summary of previous
Commission actions on this Section and the City Council's response.
After a lengthy discussion it was the concensus of the Commission to have the
City Attorney d'arft a letter to the City Council recommending that Section 8110
again be reviewed for consideration of possible delection from the Municipal Code.
b. Mr. Carmona informed the Commission of his actions relative to the car wash
complaint that was.received at the last Planning Commission meeting. He'stated
that he anticipated a meeting this week with the property owner and will keep
the Commission.informed as-to the action taken.
C. Mr. Carmona presented the Commission with the modifications to the R-3
Code for their review and consideration.
d. Commissioner Lowrey questioned staff on the follow-up procedures relative
to conditionally approved CUP's, Variences, etc. as he felt several locations had
not complied with the Commissions' conditions, i.e. The Wagon Wheel, Valle Inn,
Mission Valley Liquors. Mr. Carmona explained staff's follow up and stated
he would respond back to the Commission regarding those locations mentioned.
e. Commissioner Lowrey requested that the Planning Commission receive all
Traffic Commission minutes in the future.
f. Commissioner DeCocker had a point of information regarding the' proposed motel
on Glendon Way, and that although the motel is in a D-Overlay Zone, it should still
be made to comply with Section 9122.13 of the Parking Ordinance, i.e. . . . where
a parking area abuts a street, it shall be separated therefrom by an ornamental
wall having a height of not less than three (3) feet. . He'further stated
he wished to have this brought backup before the Commission when the motel is
considered.
g. Commissioner DeCocker stated that.at-the.intersections:of Valley Boulevard
and Walnut Grove; and San Gabriel Boulevard and Walnut Grove there were two signs
that said "Narramore Christian Foundation - Graduate School", and they are attached
to signal poles. He questioned the legality of these signs as they are within the
City right-of-way. Mr. Carmona stated he would look into the matter.
h. Commissioner DeCocker stated that he was concerned about all the condominium
'-'For Sale" signs that are being put up every week and are in violation of the City's
sign ordinance.
Mr. Kress recommended that perhaps a general letter to the owners of these projects
informing them of the violations, might alleviate the problem.
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i. Commissioner Ritchie discussed his design review checklist, that he wished
to have incorporated into the staff report prior to submission to the Planning
Commission for all future Design Review projects. He asked the Commission to please
review and comment on the proposed checklist.
11. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further information to come before the Commission the meeting
" was adjourned to the Study Session on Wednesday, August 4, 1982, at 6:00 p.m.
in the Conference Room of Rosemead City Hall.