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CC - 02-28-89APPROVED CITY OF ROSEMEAD MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING DATT;j ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL , FEBRUARY 28, 1989 BY The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called to order by Mayor Bruesch at 8:10 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California. The Pledge to the Flag was led by councilman Taylor. The Invocation was delivered by Pastor Wilfred Su of the First Evangelical San Gabriel Valley Church. ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS: Present: Councilmen DeCocker, Imperial, Taylor, Mayor Pro Tem McDonald, and Mayor Bruesch Absent: None APPROVAL OF MINUTES: FEBRUARY 14, 1989 - REGULAR MEETING MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DeCOCKER that the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of February 14, 1989, be approved as submitted. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. PRESENTATIONS: A Proclamation was presented to Margaret Duran in recognition of her service to the schools and the residents of the community. A plaque was presented to Captain Doug McClure of the Temple Station in appreciation of his service to Rosemead over the past four years. Captain McClure is being transferred to the Information Bureau of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS A. Olga Fisher, 8334 Park Street, reported an increase in theft in her neighborhood near Zapopan Park and that her edger had been stolen; sold to a pawn shop; and that she'd had to pay to get it back from the pawn shop. Mayor Bruesch stated that a request for an increase in patrols for that neighborhood, especially in the late evening hours and over the weekends, would be directed to the proper authority. II. PUBLIC HEARINGS An explanation of the procedures for the conduct of public hearings was presented by the City Attorney. The City Clerk then administered the oath to all those persons wishing to address the Council on any public hearing item. A. A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM JAMES CHENG AND ELAINE FERGUSON FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM R-2 TO C-3D AND A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3220 DEL MAR AVENUE AND A ZONE CHANGE FROM C-3 TO C-3D FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3224, 326, AND 3232 DEL MAR AVENUE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT COMMERCIAL OFFICES The Mayor opened the public hearing. Elaine Ferguson, 860 S. LaLuna, Ojai, is the applicant's architect. Ms. Ferguson stated she would be happy to answer any questions. Because of the unique situation of this property, Ms. Ferguson requested the Council's approval of this project. CC 2-28-89 Page 41 There being no one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed. The following ordinance was presented to the Council for introduction: ORDINANCE NO. 640 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD APPROVING A CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R-2 AND C-3 TO C-3D FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3220, 3224, AND 3232 DEL MAR AVENUE (ZONE CHANGE 88-160) MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM MCDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that Ordinance No. 640 be introduced on its first reading and that reading in full be waived. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. III.LEGISLATIVE A. RESOLUTION NO. 89-12 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-12 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $300,948.37 NUMBERED 24631-24665 AND 23704 THROUGH 23821 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM McDONALD that Resolution No. 89-12 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Councilman DeCocker noted that Councilman Imperial had not attended the Contract Cities Sacramento Conference nor had Mr. DeCocker attended the League of California Cities San Francisco Conference and asked that the necessary corrections be made to the records. Councilman Taylor requested a memo for Warrant No. 24649 on Page #5 listing the annual costs for the last fiscal year and what has been paid to this point, this year. Mr. Taylor also asked about the Town Hall of California membership fee listed on Page #12, Check No. 23788. Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that this is an annual membership fee allowing the City Manager as member of this organization. B. ORDINANCE NO. 641 - ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND LICENSING REQUIREMENTS FOR SKIN CARE, NAIL CARE, AND ACUPRESSURE ESTABLISHMENTS - INTRODUCE The following ordinance was presented to the Council for introduction: CC 2-28-89 Page #2 0 ORDINANCE NO. 641 C__Jl AN ORDINANCE OF THE'CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD ESTABLISHING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND LICENSING REQUIREMENTS FOR SKIN CARE, NAIL CARE, AND ACUPRESSURE ESTABLISHMENTS MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that ordinance No. 641 be introduced on its first reading and that reading in full be waived. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, No: None Absent: None Abstain: None Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. C. RESOLUTION NO. 89-13 - SUPPORTING MANDATORY MOTORCYCLE HELMET LAWS The following resolution was presented to the Council for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-13 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD SUPPORTING AB 8 (Floyd) MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM McDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR that Resolution No. 89-13 be adopted. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. IV. CONSENT CALENDAR (CC-E REMOVED FOR DISCUSSION) CC-A APPROVAL OF SPECIFICATIONS - REPLACEMENT FILTERS AT ROSEMEAD POOL CC-B AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND ANNUAL WE-TIP CONFERENCE, APRIL 28-30, 1989, ONTARIO CC-C RENEWAL OF ANNUAL WE-TIP MEMBERSHIP CC-D APPROVAL OF PARCEL MAP 19852 - 9445 MARSHALL STREET CC-F SAN GABRIEL BRIDGE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM MCDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL that the foregoing items on the Consent Calendar be approved. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, No: None Absent: None Abstain: None Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Note: It was the unanimous decision of the Council that former Mayor Pat Cleveland be selected to attend the We-Tip Conference and serve as the City's representative. CC-E APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) FOR CDBG PROGRAM ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES CC 2-28-89 Page #3 Councilman DeCocker asked for an explanation of the selection process for the list of consultants included in this proposal. Donald J. Wagner, Assistant City Manager, stated the list is obtained by talking to the staff of the Community Development Commission and from prior lists. Mr. Wagner also stated that this will be bid as a three-year proposal based on costs-per-year. MOTION BYCOUNCILMAN DeCOCKER, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM McDONALD that the Council approve the RFP for CDBG Administrative Services and authorize staff to solicit proposals. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION A. PRESENTATION BY JOHN MARTIN, PRESIDENT, PASADENA CITY COLLEGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES - COOPERATIVE PROJECTS Mr. Martin requested that City staff be allowed to meet with Pasadena City College staff to discuss and consider possible projects that PCC students could construct that would meet City needs. The City would pay for the materials. The City Hall addition and the proposed community center for the southern portion of the City were discussed as possible joint projects with the College's Building Construction Program. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM McDONALD, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DeCOCKER that the Council direct the City Manager to appoint one staff member to meet with the College representative; discuss viable programs; obtain a list of past projects and results; and prepare a report for presentation to the Council for review and future consideration. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald, Imperial No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. B. STUDY SESSION - VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER The Counci]_ agreed to meet on Tuesday, May 2, 1989, at 7:00 p.m. to discuss the Visitor Information Center with the Chamber of Commerce. C. REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM GREATER EL MONTE GIRLS CLUB VERBATIM DIALOGUE FOLLOWS: McDONALD: This is Lorne Mongeau. Before Lorne gets up here, I want to take a little bit of the flack that I know that Mr. Mongeau is going to get here by coming from the adjacent City to the east. I have been associated with that City and every time something comes up here, Lorne; they're always sending the drug dealers from over there; and we're always sending the ladies of the night - they come from E1 Monte - I'm always the one that's associated with that. I get these big stares from Jay Imperial, here. I sit on the Greater E1 Monte Girls Club Board and they asked me because they are interested in having an outreach program because they themselves were incubated from an outreach program of the Pasadena Girls Club, ten years ago. They approached the E1 Monte City Council and asked for some original funding of about $10,000 and the City council said "we have a Boys Club in E1 Monte that is doing fine and what do we need with a Girls Club?" After they heard the presentation, looked at what was CC 2-28-89 Page #4 0 0 McDONALD CONTINUES: offered, the Council gave them a chance with the funding of $10,000 for that first year. The Council said the Club would not receive any more funding and would have to grow on its own. What they did over the last ten years, is that their budget is now up over $100,000; the City still gives them approximately $10,000 a year. They have worked with the Boys Club which now has to be a Boys and Girls Club of El Monte which is probably known up and down the state for the different programs that they have as far as the Boys and Girls Club. But this particular individual Girls Club is based on what we call a group self structure that has provided a special type of service to girls, and girls only. They have an atmosphere which they can really get down and express themselves; have a peer group of girls; learn how to adjust when they come from families of alcohol abusers; sexual abusers; drugs; all sorts of things that exist in every community. We hate to say that, but in places here in Rosemead we do have gang . problems; we do have drug problems; we do have women of ill repute, etc. I'm just trying to buffer it a little bit for Lorne because I know he's going to get a lot of flack that occurs when anyone comes before this City Council to ask for some type of funding. I wanted to give you a little of the history of the Greater E1 Monte Girls Club which was incubated from the Pasadena Girls Club and is now a flourishing program which was just last week or the week before featured in a video by United way as one of their agency programs that is doing such a great job here in southern California. Lorne, it's all yours. LORNE MONGEAU, 3800 PENN MAR: As Dennis said, we have been in existence about 10 years. Most of our programs are preventive type programs. We do offer the basic programs as far as any youth agency would; arts and crafts; cooking; dance; make-up; things like that. That's about where we stop as far as being normal. We offer a preventive program for children that are ages 6-18. The majority of our kids, right now, are 6-14, max. We start at the young ones, doing personal safety classes, where we teach them how to deal with getting into a car with strangers; if you're uncomfortable sitting on someone's lap, what to do; we practically cover everything with these little guys through coloring books. It's all on their own level and we have a psychologist teaching that. We also, hit the bigger girls. We put a heavy emphasis on our older girls. That's where the problem in our community is right now. We have the same problem, we have the drugs; teenage pregnancy right now is three out of eight, not conceiving but getting pregnant in high school. We have girls that are eleven years and ten years old, getting pregnant. We have our girls coming in and telling us about all this and it's shocking. Basically, what we do is offer a special teen program called Tetra (Sp.?) for our teen girls. What that is, is we provide our girls with training, as far as how to instruct a class, most of these girls have been growing up in our programs, they understand our philosophy which Dennis was talking about, group self structure, which basically is getting the kids involved in everything of the planning of the activities that affect them. We train all of our girls. We train them on the alternative ways to deal with problem kids. We train them with some communication skills, coming down to their level and talking to a child. We offer all kinds of training for them and our staff in that area. These Tetra girls are allowed to attend our program, free; in return they have saved us so much money in overhead in the summer. We had twelve of them and we ended up hiring one extra staff for the summer with sixty kids. They instructed all the classes. I know it kind of sounds crazy to give a class to a child of that age, say 12 or 14, but they're supervised properly and the insurance has no problem with it and we have no problem with it. In fact, classes work better when they're taught by - at least we found out, our experience - when they're taught by someone that's maybe five or six years older than the child itself in the class. You don't get that teacher-type syndrome. Another thing we do with our older girls is a supper club, where we have visitors from the community come in and talk about various topics which the children have voted on as topics of interest. These topics have been controversial. We had Planned Parenthood out there, of course with CC 2-28-89 Page #5 MR. MONGEAU CONTINUES: • parent permission; we had parents show up at that workshop, also. We had the Community Service officer from our Police Department who is on our Board, do a workshop on date rape and how to deal with that. We had Avon out to do makeup workshops. Different people out, especially the RNs (Registered Nurses). We had a couple of RNs out doing puberty, and what to expect and how to deal with it. These children learn a lot from this. First of all, they're involved. They're not on the street. They're offering something to our program by serving as role models to our little guys. Many of our little kids come from, as Dennis said, bad backgrounds; alcoholic; abusive; sexually; mentally; you name it. A lot of the children are not abused. They're in families with 3 families in one, one bedroom apartment. Highly Hispanic, I think it was a 99% rate. It's changed, now. We try to suit the needs of these kids and the parents. We only charge $15 for eighteen weeks. A lot of these parents don't have to go on welfare. They can go to work and we provide care for these kids from 2:30 to 6:00 p.m. Sometimes it's a lot earlier or a lot later or holidays. In speaking with Mike Flores, from the Boys and Girls Club, we kind of brainstormed one day, went to lunch. We talked about our program and what we might have to offer for his girls if he was interested. We sat through the lunch, it took about two hours. We brainstormed all kinds of ideas. He's very creative with his ideas. After speaking with him, we felt we might be able to help him out. What we're proposing right now is to come in two days a week, approximately 2:30 to 5:30 or 6:00 p.m., offer a trainer, which would be myself. I've trained our philosophy everywhere. I did it eight years for Pasadena who founded E1 Monte Girls Club. I've done it in Watts, Pomona, Pacoima, Azusa, and KCET Videolog did a special on our training process. I decided and agreed to do this training with him, to his needs, of course. That type of training does not have to deal just with the girls. We do groups self structure with the boys, also. This would be a program as a whole. We do specialized program activities with the girls, themselves. But as far as the group self structure and learning different ways to speak to people besides cussing or yelling or whatever it may be, we will do that with the boys, too. I know it's not on our proposal, here but it's flexible. You need to do that with both as far as the training goes and the staff, also. If Mike does need help with staff for that type of training we're definitely willing to offer it and definitely willing to offer more than we have on here to whatever his needs will be. After that lunch, we decided to go ahead with this proposal and talk with Dennis about this. Mike really felt it would enhance his program. We feel it will enhance our outreach and get us out in the community, trying this philosophy somewhere else besides just at the Girls Club. I know you guys are all really busy, but if you ever get a chance, you're more than welcome to see the place in action. Just drop in unannounced and see it happen. The kids will come up to you, these kids have pride in their program because they're the ones making the decisions for their program, of course within guidelines. I'm speaking for myself. I've worked with many agencies. You're almost a janitor, no matter what position you are, you're always picking up papers, sweeping and cleaning up the bathroom and kitchen. With these kids, one of the big parts of their decision making and activities, is cleaning up. They take pride in it.' My back doesn't hurt at all from bending over and picking up papers because I usually don't have to do it. It's a real good program. Like i said, I offer you an invitation to come out and see it. TAYLOR: A couple of questions. On the substance abuse program, how are you involved with any support groups? MONGEAU: We work with the Police Department. On our Board, we have Debbie Turner, who is the officer McGruff of E1 Monte. She works with all the children. All the kids in our program know her from the local schools. She comes in and does many seminars and talks about the community. The kids are aware of what is going on. The park we're in and Dennis can vouch for this, is highly active in drugs around that area. We have apartments we call drugstores down the street. She informs them about the dangers of that and what to watch CC 2-28-89 Page #6 r MONGEAU CONTINUES: r~ out for; how to report it to us and we get reports all the time. We also have Pam Barbosa who is a Community Outreach Officer. She's also getting her psychology degree right now and a teacher in the community. She comes in. We've had Officer McGruff; we've had the talking police car; anybody in the community we can get in there; especially on Fridays we do a free day. We try to get someone from the community in there to speak on something. A lot of time it has been on drugs. The School District is doing a good job on educating these young kids. It's the older kids that didn't get this education that we really need to help. TAYLOR: But if the children are involved in drugs, is there any type of referral service for them, or how is that handled? MONGEAU: As far as I know right, we have one child who is continuously running away. She is the one who didn't make it through Girls Club. No matter what we did, we couldn't help her. We did refer her; we have a whole list of referrals. We did refer her, I think she'went to three of the people on the list and just gave up. She ran away to Pasadena for a good year. She did come back but she'd been on crack and the whole bit. But we do offer alternative programs. We haven't sent away anyone. We have hyperactive children. We have a couple of physically disabled children. The kids take them in, we all take each other in. They all help each other out. It's one good thing about this philosophy. It teaches the kids to share. During Christmas time, we had a Christmas party. A lot of these kids shared their gifts or they took their gifts home to their parents. They weren't greedy at all. TAYLOR: What about the teen pregnancy prevention there? What type of a program do you have? MONGEAU: What we offer is the basic information; anatomical information dealing with all the anatomical, the period, the whole bit. Then we get into more detail with permission from the parents. We always try to get Planned Parenthood out at least twice a year; usually a fall session and a spring session. In the summer we don't have time, sixty kids to get into a detailed program like that. They're too busy working in the program volunteering. But we've had RNs come out, a couple of our Board members come out and talk about the different contraceptives. TAYLOR: What's the actual involvement, as far as referral for pregnant teenagers? MONGEAU: I'm glad to say, as far as our kids, here; our kids haven't been diagnosed as being pregnant or even close. If they do, I think we'll have heart failure. One of our biggest emphasis is trying.to get these kids to understand everything about pregnancy; being forced; date rape; you name it. There are plenty of kids pregnant out there, you'd be surprised how young they are. That's just not here. TAYLOR: You're fortunate in one sense. None of your girls in the Girls Club have that problem, really. MONGEAU: That's right. BRUESCH: We just recently started our anti-drug program in our schools. It's SANE, the Substance Abuse and Narcotics Education, program. They use a curriculum called ALERT. Would there be any way that you could work your program in with using some of these same materials? MONGEAU: Anything in the community, anything like that, yes. We're open to any type of offering like that, yes. Definitely. I'm not saying that we have to offer what we have in E1 Monte, as far as the drug abuse program. Anybody that wants to help out, we'll take them in and definitely implement that type of program. CC 2-28-89 Page #7 • 0 BRUESCH: Last week, I don't know if you're familiar with the group, but there is a group of child advocates that has been studying the children's welfare department of the County. Last week they released a report and I believe the figure that they released was that in Los Angeles County, 400 of the children in L.A. County suffer from some form of child abuse; sexual abuse; psychological abuse; or neglect. Forty percent, nearly half of the kids, in our County have some form of abuse or neglect. That's shocking. MONGEAU: One of the aspects of the training with the staff, if Mike would like that, is to go over what you do with that type of situation. You'd be surprised how many youth agencies don't know what to do, recording procedure wise. Of course, you don't want an hourly worker reporting to the DCSS child abuse cases. You have to teach the staff the proper channels to use and go to the Director. You also have to train the Director how to report these types of...gingerly that is. You don't want to mess up and really cause havoc which can happen very easily. I had one child in Pasadena who happened to be a liar, and I didn't know. Her dad worked for the child care abuse, I forget what the title was, but it was in L.A. She gave some extravagant stories. I documented and could not believe. Of course, I made a report quick not knowing her father was in that business. TAYLOR: Question, as far as I think Mr. McDonald made reference to your budget is $100,000 a year, approximately? MONGEAU: $117,000 to be exact. TAYLOR: $117,000. I'd like to have a copy of that budget, as far as what support, backup support the City provides for you. Are you more or less self-supportive or do they donate? MONGEAU: As far as I know, that has been on a yearly basis, annually. TAYLOR: No, as far as all your facilities are self-supporting out of that $117,000, or do they donate in kind, or ? MONGEAU: All our programs happen from that budget, including salaries, supplies. TAYLOR: How many salaried employees are there? MONGEAU: We have myself, the Executive Director, and Pat Nava, the Program Director, and we would bring on a Program Director for your program, itself. TAYLOR: So there's two of you involved, right now. MONGEAU: Yes, and we have various volunteers. We have a couple of Community Service workers right now. We're always getting new volunteers in who are trying to work off court time and with their offense are able to work with children. You know, drunk driving, or something like that. I'd say the ratio, right now, we have at least three adults downstairs in the program, on any given day. TAYLOR: Where are the facilities? MONGEAU: Our facility itself, is at 3800 Penn Mar, in E1 Monte. It's in Zamora Park, down off of Maxson. It's a pretty harsh area. TAYLOR: Who owns the building? MONGEAU: The City donated the building about ten years ago. They donated the building for the program. TAYLOR: So, you don't have any rent payments, as such. MONGEAU: We do not pay any rent. I think we may be paying a $1.00 lease. CC 2-28-89 Page #8 0 0 TAYLOR: That's an in-kind contribution. MONGEAU: The City really supports us; they really help us out. We were broken into and they came out and fixed the doors, right away. It seems like everybody in the community helps us out. They know what we're doing. DeCocker: With the number of working mothers that we have today, we really need a program like this. I work in a school district that has a pregnant minor program and I'm quite sure that if some of those girls had been involved in this type of program they wouldn't be in the pregnant minor program. Lorne, what is your request? I'm looking at your fund request. MONGEAU: It's a partial funding request, actually. What we're asking for is $4,000 for a mobile unit director. We're also asking for compensation for fuel, which is $.21 a mile at 10 months. We estimated that would be $1,000 with help from United Way. They're paying about $900 of that. And consumable supplies, art supplies, things that we have to bring out, cooking classes, and that sort of thing. DeCOCKER: Total, what is your request? MONGEAU: It comes up to $7,911. DeCOCKER: We helped our local Boys and Girls Club. We have seen some real changes in some attitudes of boys and girls. I think we have one of the finest boys and girls clubs around. I think last year we appropriated about $20,000 for the Boys and Girls Club? TAYLOR: Yes. DeCOCKER: I'd like to recommend, Mr. Mayor, that if we can do that for our Boys and Girls Club, I think we can do it for the Greater E1 Monte Girls Club, especially when I read that you will service girls in Rosemead. So, we're not looking for a program that we're going to help that is going to go someplace else. MONGEAU: No, it's going only to Rosemead. We're going to be located at the Presbyterian Church across from Rosemead High. Mike Flores has worked out with the people there, a possible site there. So, we'll do that together. Start fresh there. DeCOCKER: I'd move that we fund the request to the Greater E1 Monte Girls Club in the amount of $20,000. TAYLOR: Mr. Mayor, I object to the $20,000. I'll go along with the $8,000 that they're asking for. Let's see how the program benefits. This is what happened to the Boys Club. We gave them $100,000 in one year ...$118,000. This easy come, easy go. This is ridiculous. DeCOCKER: No easy come, easy go, this time. TAYLOR: They're only asking for $8,000, let's give them the $8,000 and see how the program works. DeCOCKER: We gave everybody free swimming lessons, why not give them something.... IMPERIAL: I'll have to go back to what Gary just mentioned. I was on this Council when we had a pitch from the Rosemead Boys Club. That pitch amounted to $118,000 and we had nothing tangible after $118,000...... I'm getting to a point, Mr. McDonald. Then, we come up with the Boys Club thing again, and even though I had some hard feelings about this, I did have to realize that before this $118,000 ordeal was engineered by E1 Monte, Mr. Clay Hollipeter, and the controlling factor was there and all we had was an element of that in Rosemead, which Mr. Bruesch came to the Council for. But at a later date, so he really had no hand in it. Now, I'm not going to argue that point. We have a Rosemead Boys Club and if we need a Rosemead CC 2-28-89 Page #9 Girls Club then I think we should have a Rosemead Girls Club from Rosemead. I'm sure we've got the talent in this City to put it together. I just don't want to feel that we're going to give not even $8,000 to any organization where we don't have complete control over it from this City. It's as simple as that. I think we would be starting a bad precedent because if that's the case, why can't Pasadena, West Covina, anybody come in here and say "We'd like to start something, too." I just don't think it's a good idea. McDONALD: I'd like to second Mr. Taylor's. We don't ever give anybody any more than they ask for to begin with; and secondly, I would make sure that we have some strong stipulations on what we expect out of them over that 10-month period, and have an evaluation period at the end. But I'd like to address Mr. Imperial's comment in the respect that when you start up a program like this, it's much more effective if it's incubated from something that is already established, something that is working, something that has already been evaluated for some time. What has happened is the Greater E1 Monte Girls Club, as I pointed out, was an outgrowth of the Pasadena Girls Club. They went out and outreached it and when the community saw that there was a need for it even greater than what the outreach program was, it grew into its own program and that's exactly what E1 Monte would like to see happen here in Rosemead. They would like to see it incubated and take itself and grow and grow by itself because they're not looking for money; they're not looking for programs; what there looking for is to help the girls in the community. That's what the program is about. It's not putting people from one community into another community to say "Hey, look we're growing." It's the concept of helping someone in the community and I think it will work. IMPERIAL: In answer to that, Mr. McDonald, I like what you're saying but I still say we can from Rosemead. I understand that you are involved in a lot of activities in E1 Monte, that's where you work, you're on the Board of this thing, this organization. Maybe you see something I don't see but if we're going to use Rosemead money, then let's do it with Rosemead people, initiated right here. TAYLOR: Due to the nature of the project, what Mr. Imperial is saying, using Rosemead people and support; we don't have that right now. As far as getting it off the ground and maybe branching out later, that could be in the future. We have a program now, on a start-up basis, and I think what is being presented tonight,.my gut reaction to it is, I don't like part of the program, in the sense not of any people involved, it's just another indication of the stopgap because of a failure in society somewhere. It's not the parents' fault, a lot of parents have to work now because of economic problems; the schools can't give the guidance that these children need; now we have a third support organization just in this chain. There's many more. What we're saying is now we're going to provide another organization to try to help the youth of our community. It's not the program, as such, it just confirms that the family structure is breaking down; that the schools can't do it all either; so we're going to keep providing all these groups, as needed. No question, we'd probably all be in agreement - it's just another problem in society. We can't do much about it except make the effort; well, we're going to try to do what we can. Your program, asking for the $8,000 start-up money, let's see how it goes. I think that's the best we can do on it and I don't have a problem. We're going to try to help in some way we can. BRUESCH: We have a motion and a second on the floor. Could we now go to vote? McDONALD: I call for the question. Vote resulted: Yes: DeCocker, Taylor, Bruesch, McDonald No: Imperial Absent: None Abstain: None CC 2-28-89 Page #10 The mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. IMPERIAL: I'd like my comments to go down verbatim. My reason for voting against this project is because I feel it should stay in the City of Rosemead. When we use Rosemead money we should initiate that help with that money, from this City. TAYLOR: This was a short conversation, I think I'd like it in there verbatim and it's all in context so Mr. Imperial's points are well taken. BRUESCH: I'd just like to say that over the many years that I've been involved in youth work, it always has seemed to me that there's been emphasis on the boys club, even in our Boys and Girls Club. When it comes to building up the girls programs there seems to be a lot of effort put into it but nothing comes of it; so I'm very grateful for the Girls Club to come in to help in building up these programs because when we say youth, we mean both boys and girls, and I think we tend to think of our girls in our community as being the quiet little gals in the back rooms that are going to grow to be good little moms and good members of the work force. But we do have problems with our girl population, too and we do need a program like this. END VERBATIM DIALOGUE V. STATUS REPORTS A. CITY OF DUARTE'S RESOLUTION REGARDING THE BAN OF CERTAIN PACKAGING MATERIALS No action was required on this item. B. EARTHQUAKE MONTH Mayor Bruesch requested that this information be incorporated into the City Newsletter. VII. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS A. DeCOCKER 1. Reported that the additional expense for the San Gabriel Bridge (see CC-F) was because Caltrans had changed its direction and added this additional expense to the City of Rosemead. 2. Asked for a letter of opposition to be sent to the Regional Planning Commission in protest of the proposed motel that will border on Rosemead. Mayor Pro Tem McDonald asked that this letter include reference to the City's motel standards and the exact reasons why the City is opposed to this project. Mr. McDonald also requested staff to obtain a copy of the staff report that will be presented to the County Regional Planning Commission in relation to this project. There being no objection, staff was so directed. B. COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL 1. Asked for selective enforcement in the Rosemead Park pool area and the possibility of limiting parking on the park side of the street to be sent to the Traffic Commission. 2. Asked the Council to consider subsidizing the Rosemead Rebels for the loss of revenue because of the delay in the completion of the Jess Gonzalez Sports Complex. Councilman Taylor stated that this came under the liquidated damage clause as being the Contractor's responsibility. CC 2-28-89 Page #11 i • Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that a recommendation regarding liquidated damages and the completion of this contract should be on the next Agency agenda. The liquidated damages should be of sufficient amount for the Agency to apply in this manner, if they should desire to do so. C. MAYOR PRO TEM MCDONALD 1. Asked staff to draft a resolution requiring two trees to be replaced for each tree removed during street projects; such trees to be replaced in a park, or the owner's property or wherever feasible. 2. Asked staff to conduct comprehensive business licensing D. MAYOR BRUESCH 1. Asked for an ordinance waste disposal sites for such th changes to be posted where these a feasibility study for a program throughout the City. requiring locations of hazardous Lngs as used oil from automobile oil items are sold. Councilman McDonald stated that there does not appear to be a solution at the local level for homeowners because of the tremendous expense involved. Mr. McDonald reported a joint effort by cities in the San Gabriel Valley should be considered to provide for a hazardous waste site and a joint program would allow for the expense to be shared among interested cities. Mr. Bruesch asked staff to check with the adjacent cities to gather information on the possibility of starting such a joint program. VIII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS A. Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar Avenue, asked if it were legal for pawn shops to receive stolen goods and force property owners to buy back their own property. Staff was directed to research the pawn shop law with the thought of drafting an ordinance, if necessary. CC 2-28-89 Page #12 There being no further action to be taken at this time, the meeting was adjourned at 10:20 P.M. The next regular meeting is scheduled for March 14, 1989.