PC - Minutes 12-01-80CITY OF ROSEMEAD
8838 VALLEY BOULEVARD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
PLANNING COMMISSION
STUDY SESSION
DECEMBER 1, 1980
MINUTES
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CALL TO ORDER - The Study Session was called to order by Chairman Cleveland
in the Conference Room of Rosemead City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard, Rosemead,
California.
ROLL CALL - Present: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Absent: None
Ex Officio: Kress, Dickey, Carmona, Christianson, Fernandez
3. MATTERS DISCUSSED - Condominium Ordinance
The discussion began with a summary of the results of the Condominium
Parking Survey and the reasons for the. moratorium called by the City ,
Council. Mr, Carmona stated there had been a number of items brought to
the attention of the City Council in the replies to the survey.
'Among__the areas of concern to the Council are: on-site parking requirements,
adequacy of guest parking, open space requirements, recreation areas (amenities)
and playground facilities for children), use of garages for storage and in-
corporation of a clause in the C,C-; & R's to allow the condominium association
to restrict the use of guest parking by the residents.
It was suggested by Commissioner Ritchie that each of the Commissioners
present their areas of concern, and that a list be complied so that at
future study sessions, each concern can be addressed.
There being no objections by the Commission, this method was utilized,
Therefore, the following is a list of items submitted by each of the
Commissioners.
Commissioner Ritchie
1, C,C, & R's:
a. Control of profits on speculation (a one-year ownership provision),
b. Restrictions on storage in garages,
c. Restrictions on conducting businesses in garages.
d. Within six months of the close of escrow, all regulatory signs=
shall be in place,
2. Utilization of moisture sensors instead of timers on the watering
systems.
3. Placing of guest parking in closer proximity to the units it serves.
4. Increase in guest parking in trade for open space,
5. Allowable length of buildings shortened,
6. Requiring two plans from developers.
7. Requiring~,steel supporting posts for wooden fences,
8. Requiring the following elements prior to consideration by the
Planning Commission:
a. plot plan
b. elevation plan
c. grading and/or drainage plan
d. landscape plan
Planning Commission Minutes
Study Session - December 1, 1980
Page Two
Commissioner Lowrey
1. Requiring steel supports for wooden fences to be set in cement.
2. Parking requirements adjusted to the size of the unit, (i.e.,
1 bedroom unit = two spaces; 2 bedroom unit-= 2' spaces;
3 bedrooms = 3 spaces).
3. Designation of guest parking to each unit.
Commissioner De Cocker
1. Definition of "adequate trash container".
2. Placement of large trash dumpsters in the street during construction.
Commissioner Mattern
1. Open space - exclusion of balconies from open space.
2. Common and private open space defined as separate.
3. Requiring common open space to landscaped.
4. Separate storage area (other than garages) and storage space larger.
than 120 cubic feet.
5. Paving requirement of a minimum of 4" AC over 6" base or 6" concrete.
6. Consideration of security systems.
7. Limitation of renters in condominiums.
8. Problems associated with pets.
9_. Enforcement of C,C, 6 R's (especially when the condominium association
fails to enforce),
10. Prohibiting of wooden shake or shingle)-roofs.
After each Commissioner presented his concerns, there was a discussion by
the Commission regarding these items,
Commissioner Ritchie added that he would like to limit the length of center
driveways. Also discussed was the importance of having all grading/drainage
plans. It was suggested that there should be a "check list" of all items
required prior to scheduling for public hearing, and that all items should
be submitted to the Commission for their consideration,
Commissioner Mattern also added that he would like to see "amenities and
facilities" defined better in the new Condominium Ordinance, Mr, Carmona
then stated that in developments where there is a possibility-of families
with children purchasing some of the units, there should be provisions for
a "safe and secure" play area. There was then a discussion regarding play
areas in relation to the required open space,
Commissioner Lowrey also inquired if some provision could be written in
the ordinance. prohibiting the closing in of balconies, Mr, Carmona then
stated that this is not allowed in -the Building_Code'., Commissioner Lowrey
suggested that open space be limited to areas outside of the building
line,
Commissioner Mattern added that he would like to see wooden shake or
shingle roofs prohibited because they are a fire hazard. Along those
lines, Chairman Cleveland suggested that smoke detectors or alarms be
required.
Planning Commission Minutes
Study Session- December 1, 1980
Page Three
Mr. Carmona stated that some of the other reasons for the moratorium
were infrastructure, particularly impact on sewers, inadequacy of
existing water systems, and impacts on school districts.
There was then a discussion by the Commission regarding the scheduling
of another study session, It was decided that the next study session
would be scheduled at the regular meeting, immediately following this
evening's study session,
4. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Cleveland adjourned the Study Session to the regular meeting
at 7:30 p.m.
CITY OF ROSEMEAD
8838 VALLEY BOULEVARD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 1, 1980
MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER - The regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the
City of Rosemead was called to order by Chairman Cleveland at 7:30 p,m
in the Council Chambers of Rosemead City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard,
Rosemead, California.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Mattern,
The Invocation was delivered by Commissioner De Cocker.
2. ROLL CALL - Present: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Absent: None
Ex Officio: Kress, Dickey, Carmona, Christianson, Fernandez
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Study Session, November 12, 1980
Regular Meeting, November 17, 1980
Discussion of Study Session Minutes - November 12, 1980
Commissioner Mattern stated that there was an omission in the Minutes of
November 12, 1980. In Item No, 3-B, Area 13D, Del Mar Avenue, he requested
the following change:
"This area is located directly across the street from Area 13A and the
recommendation of the consultants was for C-1 for properties located
between Hellman Avenue and 3319 Del Mar Avenue; however, after a dis-
cussion by the Commission regarding the permitted uses of C-1 zoned property
it was agreed by the Commission to designate this area C-3, Design Overlay,
and the vacant lot adjacent to the gas station, facing Hellman Avenue, ,
He also requested a change in Item No. 3-C, Del Mar Avenue,
"In addition to the designated zoning for this area, the alley ways were
discussed. There was also a discussion with regard to the mechanism to be
used for vacation of the alley ways,"
There being no objections by the Commission, staff was directed to make the
requested changes.
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey, to
approve the Minutes of the Study Session, November 12, 1980, subject to
the amendments requested by Commissioner Mattern.
Commissioner Ritchie then requested that the amendments requested be incor-
porated into the motion, Commissioner Mattern then amended his motion.
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey, to
approve the Minutes of the Study Session, November 12, 1980, subject to
the amendments, stated as follows: the addition of'<'and the vacant lot ad-
jacent to the gas station, facing Hellman Avenue. . to Item No. 3-B; and
the addition of "There was also a discussion with regard to the mechanism
to be used for vacation of the alley ways." to Item 3-C, paragraph 3,
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
Discussion of Regular Meeting Minutes- November 17, 1980
Commissioner Mattern requested that Item No, 8 - Zone Change 80-120 and
Tentative Tract 40720 be amended. He stated that the amendment to Condition
No. 6 included the striking, of the sentence, "Driveway entrance to this
project shall be per Rosemead City Standards;';;and the addition of the
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Two
addition of the following sentence:
"Interior private streets shall be constructed with a minimum of 4 inches
AC over 6 inch base, 6r 6 inches of concrete."
There:'being no objections by the Commission, staff was directed to make
the appropriate change.
Commissioner Ritchie then inquired regarding whether or not the amendments
requested by the Commission are actually incorporated into the Minutes.
He was informed by Mr. Carmona that they are incorporated into the Minutes.
Mr.:fCarmona also stated that in the future, the amended Minutes will be
giventto the Commissioners.
Commissioner Ritchie also requested that titles of Resolutions granting
conditional use permits include a brief'.description of the project. .
In addition, referring to item No, 8 - Zone Change 80-120 and Tentative
Tract 40720, Commissioner Mattern stated that there was a paragraph in
which Commissioner Ritchie stated his reasons for voting against the pro-
ject. Commissioner Mattern stated his desire to go on record as concurring
with Commissioner Ritchie and that he wished to add that the,,package was
incomplete as it did not define the wall adequately, and there was no
drainage plans for the project,
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Mattern, to
approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting, November 17, 1980, subject to
the amendments requested by Commissioners Ritchie and Mattern, stated as
follows: striking of the sentence, "Driveway entrance to this project
shall be per Rosemead City standards", and the addition of "Interior private
streets shall be constructed with a minimum of 4 inches AC.over 6 inch base,
or 6 inches concreteV in Condition No.o6o6f Item No, 8; and the incorporation
of Commissioner Mattern's statement regarding concurrance with Commissioner
Ritchie's explanation of his reasons for voting against Tentative Tract
40720.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - On items not on the Agenda.
Chairman Cleveland asked if anyone present wished to address the Commission.
No one came forward.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Cleveland stated that if there were no`objections by members of
the Commission, Items 8 and 9 would be heard out of order,
There being no objections by the Commission, Item No, 8 was considered.
5. PARCEL MAP 13844: Request by Fred Bonamici for a commercial condominium
conversion, located at 8635 valley Boulevard, for commercial use. (Item No,
8 on Agenda.)
Chairman Cleveland stated that there was a request for continuance of this
matter to December 15, 1980.
it was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey,
to continue thesconsideration of Parcel Map 13844 until December 15, 1980,
Commissioner Ritchie also requested that complete information be submitted
to the Commission and that if all thei.information couldt:not be completed,
another continuance of the matter be requested at that time.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Three
6. EXTENSION REQUEST - PARCEL MAP NO, 11038: Request by. J.H. Hedrick and
Company for an extension of approval for tentative Parcel Map No, 11038
located at 8914 Marshall Street and 8915 Glendon Way, which was previously
approved on August 7, 1978, (Item No. 9 on Agenda,)
Mr. Carmona stated that the owner had requested a continuance of this
mattertooallow them sufficient time to prepare and have someone represent
them in this request. He also stated that the.owner of the property had
been unaware of the request for extension, since the engineer had made the
request.
Commissioner Mattern then stated that he had inquired whether or not the
applicant was aware of the ramifications,oshould the final recordation
not be completed in due time. Be was informed by Mr, Carmona that the
applicant was fully aware of the ramifications, Commissioner Matters
also requested that Mr. Carmona inform the Commission of the possibilities
involved should the map not be recorded.
Mr. Carmona stated that since this was only a lot consolidation, if the
map were not recorded, the lots would remain as<separate lots instead of
one lot, and at the time of sale, the owner would be required to consolidate
the lots,
There was then a discussion regarding the requirement for lot consolidation,
the reasons for the requested continuance, and the desire of the Commission
to grant the request for extension to February 6, 1981,
Commissioner Mattern stated that his concern was that the owners be in-
formed of the ramifications involved, and since Mr. Carmona had made them
aware, he did not oppose the granting of the extension as submitted by the
applicant.
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner De^Cocker,
to grant an extension to February 6, 1981 for Parcel Map No, 11038.
Commissioner Ritchie then made a statement regarding the enforcibility of
the requirements imposed by the Commission and the possibility of utilizing
some method of penalizing applicants for non-compliance.
It was requested by Commissioner Mattern that Mr. Kress comment on Commissioner
Ritchie's suggestion.
Mr. Kress then stated that the Planning Commission could not.:penalize an
--applicant for non-compliance. it was suggested that this matter be dis-
cussed later in the meeting.
ROLL CALL VOTE ON MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MATTERN AND COMMISSIONER DE COCKER
FOR APPROVAL OF AN EXTENSION FOR PARCEL MAP NO. 11038 TO FEBRUARY 6, 1981.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 80-203: Request by Angel and Lavinia Betancourt
for the sale of alcoholic beverages for off-site consumption in conjunction
with an existing market, known as "Alba's Market", and located at 3200 Del
Mar Avenue.
The Staff Report dated December 1, 1980 was presented by Ms, Christianson
and the recommendation for approval was made,
Chairman Cleveland opened the Public Hearing at 8:10 p,m. Seeing no one
wishing to address the Commission with regard to this project, the Public
Hearing was closed accordingly.
There were no objections by the Commission to this project, The applicants
were asked if they had read all conditions imposed, The applicants indicated
that they had, and agreed to abide by the conditions as set forth,
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Four
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to
grant Conditional Use Permit 80-203, subject to the conditions recommended
by staff.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
8, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 80-204: Request by Sin Chung Chu and Kim Wong for
the sale of alcoholic beverages for off-site consumption in conjunction
with an existing market, known as "Happy Market", and located at 8203
Hellman Avenue, (Item No. 6 on Agenda.)
The Staff Report dated December 1, 1980 was presented by Ms,.?.Christianson
and the recommendationffor approval was made.
Chairman Cleveland opened the Public Hearing at 8115 p.m,
The witnesses were administered the oath by the secretary.
PROPONENTS:
Kim Wong Sin Chung Chu
127 South Avenue 52 2639 Lexington Place
Los Angeles, California LOS Angeles, California
Mr. Wong stated that he was the applicant, He was asked if he had read the
conditions imposed. He indicated that he had not. He was then given a
copy of the Staff Report,
Mr. Chu was asked by the Commission if he had read the conditions. He
also indicated that he had not.
The witnesses were asked to return to their seats and review the conditions
of approval, Ms. Christianson then reviewed the conditions aloud for the
applicants.. The applicants indicated they understood all the conditions and
agreed to abide by them.
OPPONENT:
A.J. Shubin
11326 Emery Street
E1 Monte, California
Mr. Shubin addressed the Commission with regard to the problems encountered
by the Zion Lutheran Church, located on Hellman Avenue, He stated that
there was a problem with empty bottles and cans being disposed of on the
church property,
Chairman Cleveland closed the Public Hearing at 8:25 p.m,
Commissioner Mattern requested that . surrounding trash receptacles
and wherever else needed." be added to Condition No, 5. There being no
objections by the Commission, Condition No. 5 was amended to read as
follows:
5. Remove weeds along south side of building facing Hellman Avenue,
surrounding trash receptacles and wherever else needed.
In addition, Commissioner Mattern requested Condition 'No. 8 be added.
There being no objections by the Commission, Condition No, 8 was added and
reads as follows:
.8, The parking lot shall be clean and free of debris, in particular
around the telephone booth and fencing bordering property on the
north and west and an effort should be made to clean the debris on
both sides of the fence, where possible.
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Five
There was a discussion with regard to the addition of the conditions.
There was also a discussion regarding the businesses utilizing the
parking lot. Commissioner Mattern also inquired with regard to the
business adjacent to the chiropractic office, and Mr. Shubin's testimony,
It was moved by Commissioner De Cocker, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey,
to grant Conditional Use Permit 80-204, subject to the addition to
Condition No. 5, and the addition of Condition No. 8, as requested by
Commissioner Mattern,
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
9. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 80-205: Request by Manuel Ocampo for the sale of
alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption in conjunction with an existing
bar, known as "The Melody Lounge", and located at 8308 East Garvey Avenue.
(Item No. 7 on Agenda.!)
The Staff Report dated December 1, 1980, was presented by Ms. Christianson
and the recommendation for approval was made,
Chairman Cleveland opened the Public Hearing at 8:30 p.m.
The witness was administered the oath by the secretary,
PROPONENT:
Mr. Ray Ramirez
8301 Garvey Avenue
Rosemead, California
Mr, Ramirez addressed the Commissionewith regard to the available parking.
He stated that there was additional-;parking available at the south end of
the property,
Chairman Cleveland closed the Public Hearing at 8:35 p.m.
There was a discussion by the Commission regarding the parking area.
Commissioner Mattern requested that an additional conditionsbe added,
addressing itself to the posting of a sign stating that additional parking
is available to the rear of the building,
There being no objection to the addition of the condition, Condition No, 6
was added, which reads as follows:
6. Applicant shall place a sign indicating "Parking in the Rear". Said
sign shall conform to Section 9900-9913 of the Rosemead Municipal
Code.
There was also a discussion regarding the Cafe Incident Report. The
applicant then stated his intention to cooperate fully with laws and law
enforcement officers.
It was moved by Commissioner Mattern, seconded by Commissioner Ritchie, to
grant Conditional Use Permit 80-205, subject to the addition of Condition
No. 6',Ioas requested by Commissioner Mattern.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
10. PC RESOLUTION 80-42 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ROSEMEAD RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD, AN
AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE ROSEMEAD GENERAL PLAN FOR THAT
AREA LOCATED AT 8514-16-18 VALLEY BOULEVARD AND 3899 WALNUT GROVE AVENUE,
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA, (GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 80-2)
Mr. Kress read the Resolution by title only.
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Six
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey, to
waive further reading and adopt PC Resolution 80-42,
There was a discussion by the Commissioncwith regard to the zone change
to be initiated by the Planning Commission, and the inclusion of this in
the'tec_ommendation to the City Council. Also discussed was the provision
of lot consolidation for the three properties on Valley Boulevard. It
was stated by Mr. Carmona that since a tract map was to be submitted, a
lot consolidation would not be necessary.
With regard to the inclusion of the recommendation for a city-initiated
zone change, it was suggested by Mr, Kress that the Resolution be adopted
by the Planning Commission as submitted, and that the cover letter to the
City Council make mention of the request by the Commission for a change
of zone for this property, if the General Plan Amendment is adopted.
Commissioner Ritchie then stated that there was definate action taken to
initiate the zone change in the form of a motion and second to the motion
and stated there should be a mention of this fact in the resolution,
Mr. Kress stated that his recommendation would remain the same,
Commissioner Ritchie then inquired if the zone change would be initiated
by the Commission as a separate item. Mr. Carmona stated that it would,
Commissioner Ritchie then stated that he would like to amend his motion to
reflect the suggestion by Mr, Kress. Commissioner Lowrey stated that he
would not object to the amendment, and Commissioner Ritchie then restated
his motion.
It was moved by Commissioner Ritchie, seconded by Commissioner Lowrey, to
waive further reading and adopt PC Resolution 80-42; and to direct staff
to submit a cover letter informing the Council of the Commission-initiated
zone change, along with a copy of the November 17, 1980 Minutes reflecting
this action by the Commission.
ROLL CALL VOTE - Ayes: De Cocker, Lowrey, Cleveland, Ritchie, Mattern
Noes: None
11. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - On any matter
Chairman Cleveland asked if anyone present wished to address the Commission.
Mrs. Beverly Van Fossen
8538 East Wells Street
Rosemead, California
Mrs. Van Fossen addressed the Commission with regard to the project located
at 4229-4309 Walnut Grove Avenue. She informed the Commission of the
problems associated with this development.
Mr. Carmona then informed the Commission of the discussions between the
City Council and residents of the area and invited the Commission to hear
the tapes of the meetings and also stated that staff and the Council were
attempting to work with the residents of the area and resolve as many of
the problems as possible.
Commissioner Ritchie then stated that in the past, the Commission was not
shown what material was submitted to the City Council, He stated that an
1 affidavit of acknowledgement should be required of the developer, agreeing
to the conditions set forth by the Commission. Mr. Carmona then stated
that this is the reason why the Resolutions for tracts express what was
agreed upon by the Commission, and that the resolution is then submitted
to the Council.
12. MATTERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF
A. Commissioner Mattern requested that the minutes reflect which
Commissioner initiated changes.
Planning Commission Minutes
Regular Meeting - December 1, 1980
Page Seven
He also stated that he would like to schedule a date for the next
Condominium Ordinance study session.
After a discussion by the Commission, it was decided to schedule a
study session for December 15, 1980, at 6:00 p.m.
B. Commissioner Ritchie requested that Mrs, Van Fossen be invited to
all study sessions regarding the Condominium Ordinance.
C. Commissioner Ritchie requested. that in the future, resolutions in-
clude a brief description of the project it addresses itself to.
D. The Commission was polled by the secretary regarding their attendance
at the Southern California Planning Congress dinner meeting, scheduled
for December 11, 1980.
12. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, Chairman
Cleveland adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.