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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 13, 1987 AT 8:00 P.M.
The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called
to order by Mayor Imperial at 8:05 p. m., in the Council Chambers
of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the Flag was'led by Councilman Taylor.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend Paul Bengtson.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Bruesch, Cleveland, Taylor and
Mayor Imperial
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: DECEMBER 9, 1986 - REGULAR MEETING
Councilman Bruesch stated that on page #2 there was a state-
ment that he had made that needs to be clarified and requested
that this statement be corrected.
Dolores Weidemann from the audience requested a correction
in the minutes on a statement that she made at the last meeting.
Mayor Imperial stated that although this is not the normal
procedure, he would allow her to come forward and requested her
name and address.
Dolores Weideman, 8504 Turpin Street, Rosemead,stated that
she wanted the spelling of her name to be changed from "Delores"
to "Dolores" and she wanted the minutes to show that she was con-
cerned over the zone change and not opposed and on page 3 her
neighbors name was mis-spelled.
Councilman Taylor requested that the minutes be deferred to
the next meeting.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
PROCLAMATIONS: Delfina De Anda, Jim Baltazar & Nancy Paige
Mayor Imperial presented a proclamation to Delfina De Anda,
who is a very thoughtful and kind resident of this City. Mrs. De
Anda had presented a huge, beautiful cake to the Council and the
employeesjust prior to Christmas. She had bakedl:and beautified it
with the Seal of the City and the inscription of "TO THE CITY COUNCIL
and THANKS FOR A JOB WELL DONE" on it.
Mrs. De Anda accepted the proclamation and thanked the City
Council on behalf of her family and herself.
Mayor Imperial presented a Resolution of Commendation to
Deputy Jim Baltazar, who has been serving Rosemead as a Team Leader
with the responsibility of coordinating the efforts of the Sheriff's
Patrol personnel with the needs of this community. He has done an
outstanding job in relating to the people of Rosemead and has ini-
tiated the Neighborhood Watch Program and ensuring its development
to the fine program that it is now, and he has always been available,
helpful and hard-working. Deputy Baltazar has accepted re-assign-
ment to a position as Volunteer Coordinator, and also the responsi-
bility of training the patrol work, new personnel and reserve forces.
Mayor Imperial stated that Deputy Baltazar will be sincerely missed
and that he has definitely been an asset to the City of Rosemead.
Councilman Bruesch added his sentiments by stating that he
felt that the residents of Rosemead are not.only losing a good lia-
son person but they are losing a good friend.
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Mayor Imperial presented another Resolution to Nancy Paige,
Senior Librarian in charge of the Rosemead Library since 1980,
and commended her on her gentle authority and people appreciating
manner with patrons of all ages. Nancy Paige has accepted a pro-
motion to Diamond Bar Library in a continuing career advance pro-
gram in her chosen profession. The Council expressed their regret
that she was leaving her library post in the City of Rosemead; how-
ever, wished her the very best.in her new position.
Nancy Paige expressed her appreciation for the Resolution
and stated that it was a'great pleasure to get to know all the
City Council and that they were the greatest. To the City Staff
she expressed her appreciation for the helpfulness and friendli-
ness.
Mayor Imperial stated that Nancy Paige would be missed and
wished her well at the new Library-that she-will be. in charge of.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Juan Nunez, 2702 N. Del Mar, inquired about. the measure
that will be on the Ballot for the Special Municipal Election in
March which relates to the increase in the.Transieht..Occupancy .
Tax for the Motels and Hotels in the City..of Rosemead. He wanted
to know if the measure would require a 2/3.vote or a'majority vote
in order to pass.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that the Transient Occu-
pancy Tax which will be on the March 3rd Ballot will require a
simple majority in order to pass and stated that in his legal
opinion that he did not believe that this could be considered
a special tax.
B. Barbara Cerna, 2655 N. Pine Street, resident in site "I"
expressed her concern regarding the fact that her home is in one
of the sites that are being considered for the new high school and
she did not want to lose her home and have to move again.
Mayor Imperial stated that the City Council has gone on record
by way of a Resolution and vocally that they are vehemently opposed
to any high school site within the City of Rosemead. He added that
if he had anything to do with the decision of the site to be used,
there would not be one house taken in the City of Rosemead, and he
stated that the City Council is prepared to take action legally if
that is necessary in order to do everything possible to stop that high
school from being built in Rosemead. The Board does not seem to
want to listen either to the people or another elected body, and
he felt that the Council was prepared to do whatever is necessary
to stop them from acquiring any of the homes in Rosemead.
Councilman Bruesch wanted..to.assure the people that he and his
collegues on the City Council are not paying mere lip-service to
the support of their case, and he personally pledged that where
there is no conflict with City Council Meetings, he would be at
all hearings of the EIR, personally meet with legislators in Sac-
ramento, and to speak with people in regards to allocations and do
whatever is legally possible for the City to do. He commented
that he not only disliked the fact that all the sites that had
been selected had been in Rosemead, but also the process in which
one site was selected which.was in a matter or 5 or 6 weeks. He
pledged that he would let everyone know that this is wrong from
one end of the State to the other.
Councilman Cleveland agreed with the other Councilmen and has
been in opposition to having the high school in Rosemead for the
entire time these discussions have been going on, and will go along
with the others in seeing that it doesn't happen here.
Councilman Taylor stated that he has attended many of the
Alhambra School Board Meetings, and from the beginning it was
only a matter of procedure. No matter what suggestions were made
and whatever input was made by the residents, the Board did not
seriously consider any of them. He commented that there are now
a chain of events that must take place and the EIR is the final
major document that must be prepared, under State Law, and when
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Taylor continues: that document comes out, then there would be a
legal basis to challenge the decision. He added that it could be
challenged on moral grounds; however, until it is in writing it
would only be general accusations. He stated that once the EIR
is filed then it can be challenged item by item.
Mayor Imperial stated that the Council has gone on record
opposing the selection of a site in Rosemead during their meetings,
and he is on record telling the School District that "It will be
a cold day in Hell before they take a house in Rosemead, and we
will fight them with every ounce of strength and effort we have.
They can be sure of one thing, that they will have one Hell of a
battle".
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that there has been some
sort of a rumor circulating that there is some sort of a statute
of limitations of 30 days, and a lawsuit needs to be filed. He
stated that he knew of nothing at this point, that has such a sta-
tute of limitations; however, there is a 30 day statute in which
to challenge an EIR, but the EIR has not been prepared as yet.
Estelle Holtz stated that there.were.questions that had been
directed to Mr.Fuertes and of the City Attorney. First is there such
a thing as a Writ of Mandamus and would this give the people a better
chance if the suit was filed before the 30 days run out? Second,
question asked was if the homeowners would have a better chance with
that judge if action is taken now before thousands and thousands are
spent on environmental studies?
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he had spoken to Mr.
Fuertes this afternoon as well.
Jim Smith, Garvey Boardmember, stated that Mr. Fuertes had told
him that the judge would be more likely to listen if a Writ of Mandate
was filed and that the sooner you file the better chance you would
have depending on what is being filed for. He added that the Writ
of Mandate would be for the abuse of their discretion.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that in his opinion, there
is not a case at this time. He stated that the Board has taken some
action that this Council and most of the audience disagrees with.
These are political decisions and they have to be followed up with
EIR's and paperwork. The State Administrative Agencies that are
proposing to fund this school have to make decisions. He added
that the most important thing that can be done to save their homes
would be to get a very good eminent doma-in .lawyer..who..i ill- jack the price
of this project sky-high and perhaps stop it. He stated that his
recommendation to the Council is that the City should participate in
the EIR process. He suggested to the Council that they authorize the
Traffic Engineer to make what studies are necessary so that there
will be written evidence so that he can testify during those hearings.
To authorize whatever other City department would be involved in re-
viewing the types of environmental issues that would be considered
as part of the environmental process. This process is.a public
process which alleged experts come up with whatever environmental
effects of the project, and the public is entitled to the draft
EIR and are entitled to file rebuttals and responses and ask ques-
tions at every stage. He stated that the Board,at this time, has
selected three sites and may in fact turn out to be a charade in
terms of site selection; however, he did not feel that the judge
could be convinced that the Board has thus far acted in a way that
the judge would give an order that no homes in Rosemead would be
taken. He stated that some lawyers may advise you differently and
take your money, but the only relief that a judge could give the
residents at this point would be that the judge would tell the Board
to go back and do the selection of the site right. Realistically,
the Board will not be able to please anyone with a school selection
as there will always be a body of people who are going to be unhappy.
Councilman Taylor inquired of Jim Smith if the Attorney that
the Garvey School Board hired stated that there should be an action
filed within 30 days.
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Jim Smith, Garvey School Boardmember, stated that the Attorney
stated that before the State spends a lot of money on the EIR, and
if you are going to attack it from the aspect that they have abused
their responsibility in picking the sites, then action should be
filed as soon as possible. He stated that the sooner it is done,
and the less money is spent the more likely the judge would listen.
Councilman Taylor requested to hear what this Attorney, Mr.
Fuertes told the City Attorney.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he found a note in his
box this afternoon;, asking two questions, "Is there any kind of
restraining order or lawsuit that will have to be taken before 30
days from the day that the 3 sites were selected? He was told
that.the source of this was that Attorney. He talked to him and
his associate and cannot understand where this 30 day limitation
got started. Robert Kress said that there is a 30 day statute
of limitation to file an action attacking an EIR once it is pre-
pared. He stated that he did discuss in general terms what has been
done with Mr. Fuertes and his associate, and both were surprised and
did not indicate that anything should be done at this time.
Councilman Bruesch inquired of Jim Smith if the Garvey School
Board is as adament as the Council is in opposition of a high school
in Rosemead.
Jim Smith stated that he was adament as ever; however, the major-
ity does not have a lot of hope in getting the attorney to file suit
to try to stop the process.
Councilman Bruesch stated that those who have gone through the
EIR process before and know what they are looking for,will be'
looking for those issues that are in the EIR that will prevent a
high school from being built in a particular neighborhood. It has
to be shown that the environmental impact of a high school on this
community cannot be mitigated, and this is the point that has to be
brought across, and he added that if the State Allocation Board does
hot feel that all the questions in the EIR -were addressed-by
the school board and the entire process was not adequate, they will
not give the money.
Jim Smith suggested to the Council and to the City Attorney
that if there is anything that needs to be done, it should be done
now and not wait until it is too late.
Mayor Imperial assured Mr. Smith that Mr. Kress does realize
the importance of this item to.the City Council and that not one
of them want to see one home lost.
Mrs. Cerna stated that site I is right across the street from
the Auto Auction which has a traffic problem already and the other
issue that could be brought up is the fact that Monterey Park wants
the high school and questioned why they don't consider a site there.
Mayor Imperial stated that the Alhambra School Board does not
want to hear the people or the Council and he felt that a show-down
was going to be necessary. He urged anyone who had information or
suggestions that might help should pass it on to Estelle Holtz and
she will pass it on to the City Council.
Carlo Penial inquired if there was a chance that the site was
already picked and just not told anyone,and stated that there has
been a great deal of activity by their home in Site A, such as mark-
ings in the street. He commented that the other sites do not seem
to have this type of markings.
Mayor Imperial stated that the chances are good that they might
have, but it cannot be proved.
Eduardo Cruz stated that he heard that the Council were at the
School Board Meetings and inquired why the people whose homes are on
the sites being considered were not notified of these meetings. He
stated that his parents did not find out about the meeting until the
night of the meeting. He felt that the Council should notify those
involved ahead of time, and he had to go to work and he missed the
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Councilman Bruesch stated that the Site I had been proposed
by a member of the Garvey School Board approximately in early October,
and the Council was not aware of it until later in October. He did
state that the neighborhood was leafleted at the time of the meeting
and was told at that time that Site I was under consideration. He
questioned why Site I was being considered when it had only been
discussed in a very cursory way while all the other sites had been
discussed for up to 18 months. The Council was not aware of the
consideraton of that site any sooner than most of the people there.
Mayor Imperial stated that the City has done everything possible
since the inception of this catastrophe, to stop this project, get'-,the
Alhambra Board to listen, and they have been impossible.
Ruben Chavira, 2724 Kelburn, inquired if from this date on a
little more information and detail could be forwarded to the resi-
dents.
Mayor Imperial stated that whatever the City knows about will
be transmitted out there. The City is not in the position or have
the authority to give notice of the Board's hearings, and it is the
responsibility of the Alhambra School Board to contact those who
are living in sites being considered.
Councilman Bruesch stated that he felt that the most direct
route in getting information would be to call the Alhambra School
Board Office and telling them that your home is in a particular
site and you want to have information regarding its status.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, suggested that each person send
a letter to the Alhambra School Board, certified mail, return re-
ceipt requested, demanding that you be placed on a mailing list
for any future meetings that would be cons iderifig-t he, -s,' a
high school. He added that then there would be a record of having
done that and there would be a receipt, and then they would have to
respond.
Mayor Imperial suggested a step further by writing letters
to the legislators, State Senator Montoya,the State Board of Edu-
cation and the State Board of Allocations.
lady: Thanked everyone for their support. She stated that
there were 596 homes involved in sites A, B, and I, and she wanted
to find out the total amounts of people involved in this matter.
She wanted an up-dated census on how many children, adults and how
many of those are senior citizens, and also requested from the City
of Rosemead to hire a professional person to work with these resi-
dents in acquiring this census. She felt that a leader would be
necessary and also from the.point of credibility.
Mayor Imperial stated that he felt that the City has two
strong leaders in Estelle Holtz and Holly Knapp and are experienced
in getting things done in this City, and as far as the legality of
expending public funds for such a use he felt that the Attorney
should respond to that question.
Councilman Taylor stated that the school board has statistics
on every school child in the entire district, and as far as census
reports are concerned on every person within the City, that informa-
t_i_on is readily available at the City and ' at the School District.
Someone needs only to ask the right questions, preferably in
written form, and if the correct answer is not given, then that
would go into the EIR that you were misinformed. He added that
credibility is what it is going to come down to as far as the EIR,
was it factual or was it not.
Councilman Bruesch stated that the exact figures were handed
to the Council, gathered by Monterey Park residents, and received from
Mr. Jim Smith. He added that he was sure that the City Staff would
be available to help retrieve that information.
Mayor Imperial questioned the City Attorney regarding the expen-
diture of public funds for something like this.
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Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that, as far as the
expenditure of public funds, you have already pledge the assis-
tance of the City Staff and the City Attorney to assist in what
ways possible to stop this project;however, he would not recom-
mend the hiring or funding of a special person because he did not
feel that was necessary and as several Councilmembers have indicated
that there is a wealth of information out there. He felt that some-
thing like this has to be a volunteer effort and it would be foolish
to rely on a paid organizer. He also felt that a better job can be
done by someone who lives in the area and knows it, than someone
from the outside. He added that no action would be taken and this
was a discussion, and he stated that the new Brown Act which took
effect on January 1, 1987, tells the Council that they may not take
action on any items that are not on the printed Agenda. It is re-
quired by law to post Agendas 72 hours in advance and the Council is
not able to take action on any item that is not on the Agenda unless
there is a finding of an emergency or a finding that the particular
matter arose after the posting of the Agenda. He remarked that it
would be incumbent upon anyone who wanted any action to be considered
to, the City Manager should be notified of a proposed action and
why it should be placed on the Agenda.
Boyd Mitchell, 9027 Garrett, stated that he felt that the
EIR's should not be.allowed to go through because he did not feel
that the three individual sites could be picked apart enough to
stop all three sites from being selected. He felt that at least
one of those sites would be passed through the EIR, and he felt
that it would be more advantageous for us to strike right now and
to try to block them from doing the EIR's,than forcing them to
open up the site selection process again.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that it becomes very
difficult to stop the School Board from preparing an EIR when that
is the document that is now required by State Law. In other words
you are going to ask a judge to keep them from following the law,
and he felt that there was no basis on which to do that. He added
that the EIR needs to be issued and then there will be all sorts of
avenues to attack from a legal standpoint.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he would welcome
any other attorney to discuss this with and all those he has
spoken with can see that there is anything that can be done right
now. He stated that there is simply no way, based upon the facts
as they stand now, that a judge would issue an injunction or a
Writ of Mandate or any of the other possible forms of relief.. He
added that the EIR process is critical and everyone should be look-
ing at participating in the process. It can be attacked at the
Administrative stage when the Board is actually considering it and .
if no participation takes place, then you may be prohibited from
attacking certain elements in Court. This means you have to address
your concerns to that Board, ;you cannot take.the easy way out and
just say that those people are not going to listen.:
Mr. Mitchell commented then that it would be up to the indi-
vidual to find out when the EIR hearings are taking place.
Councilman Taylor stated that a certified, return receipt requested
letter has to be sent to the School Board requesting notification,
and then it would be up to the Board to explain it to the judge
why people were not notified, or why information was withheld from
the residents. He stated that the School Board will have to explain
every single thing in it and everything that they did not put in it.
All of the sites in Monterey Park will be subjected to every single
question, that will be asked of the three sites that were selected
in Rosemead. He felt that it was a good idea to go to them with the
different statistics, such as there are 5000 more children in Monterey
Park and would be at fault for not including that information in the
EIR.
Councilman Bruesch stated that he had figures which are attain-
able at the census bureau, and it states in 1980, Alhambra, 5-17yrs.
olds, 10A00, in 1986, 11,900, Monterey Park,, 1200 growth,..and in
Rosemead 600 growth. This shows that the growth in student popula-
tion is double in Alhambra and Monterey Park than it is in South
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Mr. Boyd Mitchell expressed his appreciation to the City
Council and stated that he was 1000 behind them.
Holly Knapp, 8367 E. Whitmore St., inquired if action
could not be taken at the next Council Meeting to secede from
the Garvey School District, the Alhambra High School District,
and the E1 Monte Union High School District and form a Rose-
mead School District bounded by the city limits.
Councilman Taylor stated that would be jumping from the pan
to the fire and a new high school would be needed in Rosemead
as-the one here is already full.'
Mayor Imperial agreed with Holly Knapp in that the research
could be done to find out what it would require to secede, and
check into Rosemead High School to see what would be necessary
to expand, and this would alleviate Rosemead from the responsibility
of students coming from E1 Monte to Rosemead.
Holly Knapp remarked that this may not be something that will
be done; however, it could be placed in the newspapers and it is
something that can be done without waiting for the preparation of
the EIR's.
Dolores Weidemann, 8504 Turpin St., stated that there is an
addition to the High School that will.be completed in 1990.for the
the E1 Monte Union High School District, and. cautioned Holly Knapp
that she not be locked into something.
Mayor Imperial stated that he wanted to know how many Rosemead
students are-leaving the City and going outside to go to school and
how many students from outside the City are coming into Rosemead.
Dolores Weidemann stated that the guidance department of the
District could give that information.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, advised everyone to remember that
the School Boardmembers are elected and this high school situation
is going to be a lengthy process, and the next school board election
is less than 2 years away. He added that all the lawsuits and ideas
about secession can be considered; however, the simplest way to stop
this thing is to elect different people to the Board that share your
views. He urged that no one.lose sight of that idea, and stated that
if everyone went out and convinced a few people to vote in that elec-
tion, it could very well make a difference in the outcome of that
election.
Mayor Imperial stated that he feltthat was an important option
although the opportunity was lost at the last election. He stated
that now the people from Monterey Park are also angry along with
those from Rosemead, and the more angry people there are the better.
If those people who are responsible for this situation can be voted
out of office, the project can be stopped.
Mrs. Cerna inquired if petitions could be prepared for the
residents to sign in opposition to the high school sites in Rosemead.
Mayor Imperial stated that the City Clerk will be happy to help
any one who needs guidance in preparing a petition for circulation.
II. PUBLIC.HEARING TO CONSIDER ZONE CHANGE REQUESTED FROM R-1 AND
R-3 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT (P-D) ZONE AT 8740 MISSION DRIVE
(VERBATIM)
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, I would ask that we go ahead and open it because
I know that people are here tonight and they have waited around and
it should not be a wasted trip. Let's let them talk on it.
Imperial: We'll open the Public Hearing and anyone wishing to speak
on this item; please get up and be sworn in. Raise your right hand to
be sworn in.
Clerk: Do you swear that the statements that you are about to make
are the truth, the whole truth, so help you God?
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Imperial: I am concerned with everyone speaking their piece, but
in the interest of time, it is. ten o'clock right now, and.so we
can get the folks out of here and back in their homes as expediently
as possible. If you would like,you can request that someone speak
for you, a spokesman for the group.. Would you state your name and
address please?
Richardson: My name is Lupe Richardson, I am here tonight with
Mike Richardson, Linda Richardson. We are representing the Richard-
son family and tonight we are here to speak on behalf of our father,
James A. Richardson, regarding his property located 8470 E. Mission
Drive, in the City of Rosemead. Those who know the Richardson fam-
ily can appreciate how difficult it is for us to appear before the
Council tonight. We are not public speakers, however, we felt that
we should shed some light on our current predicament. Six months
ago Dad open escrow on the sale of his property, and through con-
tinued delays, and between changes in tax laws, we have lost an
interest accumulated of more than $50,000. That's $50,000, gentle-
men, have been lost to the Richardson family already in this trans-
action. And as of today, escrow has not closed on this property.
We don't want to bring personal items to the Council for public
scrutiny, but we.feel that you should be aware that at this time
our medical expenses exceed $3,500 per month over and above what
our insurances cover. That is $3,500 a month. In the last ten
months, $35,000. We estimate $50,000 in the next ten months. The
precarious health of these family members, Grandmother May and our
Dad, are being aggravated by the emotional, physical and financial
steming from these repeated delays. Current family budget projec-
tions indicate that we will have only enough funds to cover these
medical expenses for another 4 months. So at the end of the 5th
month, do we say, well Dad, Grandma, are you going to die so that
we can bury you while we can still afford it or are we going.to
make you a ward of the courts, the State. We don't know. O.K.
We don't know. We are not businessmen. But we do know that the
Richardson family is not out to, make a fast buck at. the expense
of our neighbors. GoIuInt9 records will.cor`raborate that our family has.always
been,civic minded.--W proud to donate land throughout- the San-Gatiriel Valley, but
times being what they are. and this being the only parcel of lanct
that we have left, we don't have that.luxury any more, to donate.
We feel that our request will allow our family to exercise its
right for a speedy sale is not an unreasonable request, and deserves
immediate consideration from the Council. No buyer would want to
purchase this size of property, if it would not be developed into
a profitable endeavor. The initial action for postponement was
prompted by the concern that it would not be aesthetically compat-
ible. There are several developers that have shown an interest
in building on our land. Is it not better to sell and build upon
the land rather than to let it sit indefinitely and possibly develop
into a blighted area of the City? As pointed out in a recent letter
by adjoining homeowners to the Richardson property, we are not opposed
to the sale of said property, nor the construction of single family
homes. For the sale of said property is like the death of a family
member, the nostalgia, uniqueness, charm of the barn and most of all
the sense of history that was brought to our City from the pioneer
days. The joy this property has been to us is difficult to express.'
You can imagine how hard it must be for me, for us to express. For
us, the joy that once was the Richardson Ranch is gone. With Dad's
and Grandma Mae's diminishing health, the increasing medical costs,
the anxiety involved with the continuous delays with the sale of
our land and our personal property, have marred the tranquil pace
of the Richardson household. Our pain and sorrow may have obscurred
our business acumen or our legal judgement, but it has not blinded
us to what is fair and just. You have prolonged our emotional and
mental anguish long enough. Therefore, we urge you, grant us you
utmost consideration for a quick resolution on this matter. Remove
further obstacles and allow our family to die with dignity. That is
all we have left. Although this presentation, yes, is based and
focuses on the emotional, and you have already heard emotional pleas
for an hour and a half, this being.one more., We simply feel that this
development will benefit the community, especially the surrounding
neighbors. Permit us therefore, to report to the remaining family
members, our Dad, on the positive action that you will take here to-
night. Thank you.
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Mayor: Anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this project?
Rose Wong: I am Rose Wong. I am the developer of the project
at 8470. One of the purposes of speaking here is that other
than looking for .a profit, we want to build this development
because we believe in supplying affordable housing, which is
now very unaffordable for the.middle-class working couples and
families. I have a copy of a page from the L. A. Times, Sunday
Real Estate Section. Page 1 gives us some figures on the sta-
tistics. There would be two voters per household that would not
be able to buy a home, and housing has become a key among young
voters. There are 3400 parents with children under 18 who will
be wondering if their children will ever be able to buy a home.
We feel the P-D development which still offers independent homes
with private yards is the best solution for affordable housing.
We have received negative responses from some of the neighbors,
to cut down the density: We feel that the more you cut down the
density of this project, the more the prices will have to go up
and.that defeats.our purpose of supplying houses at this price
range. I know owning a home is a great American dream,.and we
always hope that there will be more youngsters in this community
who can-make:their dreams come true. We can only do that with
your help. Thank you.
Mayor: Anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this project?
Your name please.
Al Direnzi: My name is Al Direnzi with L & D Engineering. We
are the Engineering Firm representing the applicant. Address is
106 West Lime Avenue, Suite #205, Monrovia, California. There
are some specific concerns and questions that were discussed with
some neighbors at two neighborhood meetings and I would like to
go over some of those concerns and what has been done to address
those concerns.
Mayor: Sir, as a point of information, those were neighborhood
meetings, were you invited to those?
Direnzi: Yes, I was at one of them and the Architect was at the
other.
Mayor: And both times by invitation.
Direnzi: Yes. The owner of lot 25, 8503 Turpin, was concerned
about the deteriorating condition of the wood fence that was
originally constructed with the subdivision. We informed them
that a block wall was going to be built along the entire perimeter
of the project. That satisfied that concern. The owner of lot 24,
which is 8504 Turpin, objected to the any use of Turpin for the
access of any kind including the emergency vehicular access that we
had proposed. We have made some internal modifications to the lay-
out. We have.eliminated a unit to provide enough room for an ap-
proved Fire Department turn-around, and this will eliminate the.
emergency vehicle access to Turpin. We have also provided for a
children's play area because.of the increased area of the deletion
of the unit. The:owner of lot 4, which is 4515 Halkett,' adjacent
to our southerly boundaries.was concerned with our original proposal
to remove 60% of the storm water that ran through the property on to
his, an existing condition. We have informed them that the project
is going capture 100% of the run-off as required by'the City Engineer.
He is satisfied with that new drainage concept. The owner of one of
the'lots down at Halkett cul-de-sac was concerned with leaves and
other debris piling up at the.cul-de-sac and plugging up the storm
drain facility for the sub-division to the east of ours. We informed
them that we would be installing a debris gate that would mitigate
part of the problem; however, that problem is created within the sub-
division and it is not something that is going to be further impacted
by our project. We suggested to them that perhaps, the owners of
the subdivision could get the City to establish some sort of a main-
tenance program during the winter months, because the drainage
facility is a City-owned storm drain. There seems to be a lot of
debris that causes this choked up problem and there are access
covers for maintenance and this might be the solution for that
problem. The conditions of approval 'as approved by the Planning
Commission are all acceptable to the applicant, including the dis-
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Direnzi continues: If people from the audience or any of the
members of the Council have any questions, I would like to come
back up to address those questions. Thank you.
Neil Eskuri: Gentlemen, my name is Neil Eskuri. I represent the
Architectural firm hired by the applicant. We have studied this
project for about 6 months. We have looked at the current zoning
and it has been quite a problem to design a desirable project here
with the current zoning so we had a meeting with the planning staff
and we decided the best way to go was to change the zoning from R-3
to P-D. This way we could put affordable single family homes and
satisfy all of the City's requirements. We have studied the best
lay-outs. This is a unique piece of land because of the shape.
The location is just great. I know people who would like to buy
a home there, but due to current economics it the prices go more
than $180,000 with additional school taxes and various financial
factors it would be very, very difficult to afford. So we are cut-
ting out one of the units, and I would like to make a suggestion
that we make an amendment to the conditions of approval which the
applicant is in favor of and add the additional items that are the
concerns of the neighbors. I was invited to some of the meetings
and I listened to some of their concerns and I diligently worked
hard to set satisfy these. By providing a nice decorative block
wall on the property line; by adding additional landscaping, it
not only helps the neighbors, but it helps the new homes so that
they will have something pleasant to look at. We have a little
over 5 parking spaces per unit. The houses range from 1470 to
1800 square feet, so they have a good variety. We would like to
create a custom design subdivision here with different exterior
elevations for each home. We want a desirable project that will
be compatible and increase the value of the neighborhood and the
surrounding neighborhoods-. If there are any questions, I would be
glad to answer ...I have some additional drawings here that might
show.....
Taylor: Mr. Mayor. A point of information, I have heard comment
twice on the value of the homes and affordable housing. What is
the price range that you are looking at.
Eskuri: We are hoping to have a price range from $150,000 to
$180,000. It will increase every time we have to change the density
and the price can go up $4,000 or $5,000. It may not seem like a
lot but when you figure all the other elements in there....
Taylor: You also mentioned five parking spaces per unit.
Eskuri: There are two covered spaces, two spaces in front of
the garage and there are additional spaces along the street. The
street is designed at 32 feet, County standards, and you are per-
mitted to park on one side of the street.
Taylor: I have looked at the map. The way it shows here and I
counted up the twenty parking spaces or such guest parking, two
per unit....
Eskuri: -In the garage and two in front of the garage door.
Taylor: So that is what you are saying, then could be two in.front
of the unit, two in the garage plus 20 guest parking. That explains
where all the cars are going to park. That amazes me that we would...
Eskuri:. If it is necessary at a certain time, holiday seasons it
could be possible. We were concerned about ...the neighbors concern
was parking and the density and the block wall, the rain water
drainage and the childrens playing in the street and sidewalks. We
are working hard to accommodate these. This doesn't show are new
modification.that I would like you to review. We have taken out
one of the units near the back there. We have put in a larger
turn-around. I would like to show that to you and we are going
to provide a children's play area. We would like this to be changed
to a planned development which means that we have C C & R's. Of
course, you know all.the conditions of approval. Yes, on the
east side where Turpin intersects the Richardson property..that is
part of the Richardson property from the end of the Cul-de-sac to
the property line. The initial thinking a long time ago that some
day that would stem through and have 4 or 5 houses in the back portion
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Eskuri continues: That portion of that lot. That is the current
R-1 zoning and the front part is currently R-3. We don't feel
that is good zoning and we understand that there are problems there.
and it just wouldn't be good for anyone. We propose to make it all
P-D. Simply it and have nice single family homes. It is a good .
solution and the Planning Staff worked with us and they concur and
the Planning Commission feels it~,is a good development and we would
like to satisfy the concerns of the neighbors so everyone, hopefully,
everyone can be happy about it.
Mayor: Any questions, Gentlemen, at this point? Thank you.
Is there anyone else who wants to speak in favor of this project?
If not, then we will ...I'll request anyone who wishes against the
project. There is no one who wants to speak against.this project.
Is there anyone who wants to say any more on this project?
Dolores Weidemann: I am Dolores Weidemann, 8504 Turpin, City of
Rosemead. I wanted to clarify for my own thinking. Isn't the
procedure open hearing, then discussion and then rebuttal? Cause
I thought ...I have not been well the last couple of days so please
be patient with me with my throat. I would like.to express my appre-
ciation.to you gentlemen, the City Council, for granting the request
for the postponement for a Zone Change. Also, to all the City em-
ployees,that I have dealt with, equal appreciation to you for your
time, your courtesy and your professionalism. You have been most
kind and generous. Also at this time, I would like to comment on
my request to have an overhead projector so that we could share in
the discussions. I thank you. It'is very important to me before
I go on with my statement, and I am requesting, and I am guilty of
this also when I am not familiar with something, I request that
people.please listen to me very carefully as I do not appreciate
being misquoted. Also I would like to know, and I did clarify it
with one of the City Councilmembers at the break that there would
be ample time to rebuttal. I won't read that statement right now.
I this time, I would like to reiterate that I am not opposed to
the selling of the property at 8470 Mission Drive or the redevelop-
ment of single dwelling homes. I am not going to comment at this
time regarding projects at 8470 Mission Drive as I feel that con-
cerns may be met and some of them were stated. My following state-
ment I feel is a valid and an appropriate one and do not want it
to be misinterpreted as petty, catty or irrelavant; however, I
would appreciate your patience as I bring you up.to date since the
last Council Meeting. A number of communications have taken place.
On a Sunday, one late evening, December 11th, if I am correct on
the date of the Sunday following our last City Council Meeting,
Developer, Mrs. Rose Wong came unannounced to my.home to see me.
At this time she requested if I would form a meeting of.neighbors so
the future projects could be explained. I told the developer that
I would not speak for the neighbors, but that I would put a notice
out to them. This I did. I have tried my best to keep you people
abreast with all communications, and this is one thing here that
you don't have. I was contacted by most neighbors that it was not
adequate notice and with the holidays", they and myself had plans
for the Saturday in question, December 27th at 10:00 a.m., that
Mrs. Wong had requested the courtesy. On December.25th at 3:00
p. m., I contacted the developer and said to her that the meeting
was being cancelled due to the above reasons stated. I was away for
the week-end. Upon arriving home, I found the note from Mrs. Wong
saying that she had rescheduled the meeting as planned by going
door to door posting.a sign on my front door saying where meeting
would be held. Come Monday, I had a number of neighbors, mainly
my immediate neighbor, Mr. Larry Ellis approach me..or call me
by phone quite upset at some of the data that was given to them
regarding the project which created new concerns. Monday evening
when I arrived home from work at my home was a two pound box of See's
Candy from Mrs. Wong expressing would I please contact her archi-
tect. Per Mrs. Wong's request once again I contacted her architect.
To be fair and to give the developer the benefit of the doubt and
to hear both sides since I was not present at her meeting. Tuesday
morning extremely early I received a phone call from the developer,
Mrs. Wong. At this time, I did tell her she had upset some neigh-
bors, first for having the meeting without them, second with new
concerns regarding the basin at the end of the cul-de-sac.
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Weidemann continues: Mr. Ellis', my neighbor, contacted me and
asked me if I would put together or.have a meeting with neighbors
to express concerns that they had learned from Mrs. Wong's meet
ing. I once again.prepared a short statement scheduling a meeting
for last Sunday, January 11th at 7:00 p.m., at my residence. Last
week after that I contacted the architect for the property in que~5-
tion as requested Mrs. Wong, the developer. Neil, the name of the
architect, he asked me to address him that way, assured me and
showed us... assured me on the phone and showed us our requests
have been granted for a solid block wall. We are most appreciative
of this. During our phone conversation, Neil and myself with new
information that he gave me over my phone, I invited him, the
architect to attend our meeting for Sunday. I felt that it was very
valid the rest of the neighbors share in his interpretation of
changes. At the meeting at my home there was approximately 17 to
20 neighbors, the architect was very impressed with the attendance
and kept repeating this to me. How nice to have neighbors so con-
cerned. Which brings me to the purpose stated above. It concerns
me and disturbs me greatly the tactless, lack of professionalism,
ill-mannered, arrogance of Mrs. Wong and her sister realtor, Nina
Kuo to first show up at a meeting that they were not invited to,
definitely over-stepped their boundaries, second to be insulting
to me and my guests, third to be intimidating and tell my guests
in my private home that she wanted all the names and phone numbers.
My christian.and moral values extended them the courtesy of staying
in my home for approximatly 12 hours. X the end of this time, I
thanked the three persons, other than neighbors for coming, and
expressed that we had business to attend to and would like to get
on with our scheduled meeting.
Mayor: Point of information. Did you at any point in time ask
them to leave.
Weidemann: As tactfully as I could. That is in my statement.
to attend and would like to get on.with our scheduled meeting. I
just kept.reiterating this. I mentioned this approximately five
times. I also said to Mrs. Wong that I thought she was being
very. rude three times, taking down peoples names and phone numbers.
After the third time, she said what am I doing wrong? I told Mrs.
Wong that she was very aware of what she was doing. Still at this
point there was no stopping her and her sister. They went to
families... families in my home, expressing that she gave them
the wall that they had requested and would they come Tuesday,tonight
to the City Council Meeting and support her project. At this point,.
I would like to extend the courtesy to Neil, who was very profes-
sional and courteous and answered any immediate question and offered
the maps. In fact the map that you people gave me. That has also
has disappeared a lot of things have disappeared. And I told him
that I would see to it that he would get them back, and then he
knew his role, when to exit. So I am not...this is not pertaining
to him. Repeated tactfully to please leave, that we had a meeting
to conduct which was to no avail. I had to close our meeting and
to boot all my neighbors left, but one family or two families and
Mrs: Wong and her sister preceded to stay. I want you people to
be very aware of what you are dealing with. Not to mention that
it was as frightening as Hell to see what was taking place, right
in my own home: Last night as she went door to door as people
shared with me, and maybe it is best I don't know for their sakes,
the developer, Rose Wong and Nina Kuo. We have been able to enlighten
you.gentlemen, and City employees concerns of said project. I would
appreciate it, if you would share with the residence and the audience
tonight, no matter.how many different investors purchase property,
Rose Wong or whoever; since you have heard from your fellow residence
of Rosemead for who you represent and was elected for your seat on
City Council to protect us we would have gotten our block walland
cul-de-sac in 'tact. My immediate concerns after the discussion, I
will have a rebuttal. We have consummed a tremendous amount of data
from the packet given to me Friday night, to be truthful, it is over-
whelming for the novice lay.person. It takes;.you need time to
digest it all. And once again thank you, and I will come back.
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Mayor: Mrs. Weidemann, one point, we have heard what your
feelings are about the developer and the real estate person,
but what are feelings about the project.now?
Weidemann: I stated that at the beginning of the meeting. I am
not opposed to the selling of the property. I am not opposed to
the single dwelling homes. After I hear all of the discussions
and-that concerns are met and some of them have been met, I knew
that prior to Sundays meeting, I will, maybe not read the state-
ment or I feel, in order to meet the valid concerns that we have
they are going to have to take more than one home out. You people
have the statement, a copy of the statement that I read from the
first presentation. I also took it to Jim Richardson because I
told him that.I did not want to be misquoted. Jim told me.at that
time that he has a retainer, $25,000 or something, that if they
back out, I forget the exact dollar price. I know there is Medi-
care, I have elderly people.also that could take care of a lot of
this. I am just saying that we are not opposed to selling of the
property. We are not opposed to single dwelling homes. O.K.?
It concerns me-certain valid concerns.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Taylor.
Taylor: Mrs: Weidemann, in discussing this particular item, you
now have the floor, and we must know what your concerns are so
that when we.are discussing it, we don't discuss it and then several
months later everyone brings up their concerns. Will you please
tell us your concerns?
Mayor: I have real concerns why you think that more than one
house should be eliminated and Mr. Kress wanted to ask a question.
Weidemann: Why more than one house should be eliminated?
Kress: No, I wanted to clarify our hearing procedures. They
provide that the applicant and those in favor.speak first, then
those who are opposed, and the only rebuttal is the applicants.
That is because the applicant has the burden of proof in proving
their case and-we can't go back and forth and get a little bit of
the case out. So....
Weidemann: I appreciate that. That;s fine. I just wanted to
know what and.when it is appropriate.. I will probably sit down
and forget ha-lf of this stuff. O.K. When I.... I want to stand
corrected, you said something about my feelings about the developer.
It is nothing personal. If I meet in the street or meet her in the
community or Monterey Park, it'is not that I am not going to say
hello or that I dislike her or that I would have bad vibes or,;ugly
kind of connotations.
Mayor: My reason for that, Mrs. Weidemann, is that you said that
they had handled themselves unprofessionally. Which would be your
feelings and that was what I projected..-
Weidemann: Yes, definitely.. They were not-invited.to-my meeting
and I extended them the courtesy to stay and then I did not
appreciate that at all. O.K. I am going to start out to say
that I don't know who is here to speak tonight because we could
not go,off and conduct our meeting. I close the meeting. I only
got the concerns of a few of the neighbors, one neighbor. I
don't know if O.K. Mrs. Rose Wong and realtor,- her'-sister,
Nina Kuo are opportunits who stand to make a healthy profit at
the cost of the Rosemead residents. Listen carefully, this we
feel that we can handle, only if plans and specifics are guaranteed
present homeowners surrounding this development property. And as
you said some of them have been met. The 60 foot turn-around for
the Fire Department. We made contact.with the Fire Department. We
did make contact with them asking them to be present. Probably you
all know about the safety over-flow. Because all we are doing is
giving.the problem to someone else and so there will be a rebuttal
about it on Earle. The sidewalks,the curbs, I feel that we have
a moral obligation and responsibility to the youth and it begins
at home. We don't introduce the children from their front door to
the street. O.K. Cause you are going to have problems some time
with accidents. CM 1-13-87 Page #13
Weidemann continues: The parking. We are talking about a minimum
of 23 cars with two parking spaces per home, plus the 20 on the
parking area. I believe, and I have faith in you people that you
would have considered a block wall there. Because you see how on
Mission the property line is.... the public parking is so close to
our property line that accidents do occur, people step on the accel-
lerater.at the wrong time and they will be in my living room, Mr.
Ong's childrens bedrooms and his bedroom and bathroom & other resi-
dents along the property line. I mean that this does happen. For-
tunately on Mission there is a big frontage, you know...I am just...
They have granted us the block wall and we are appreciative of that.
Fire. I have discussed a lot about the Fire. If the place should
catch on fire, the tract, it is my feeling that my home would be
much safer if 10 ten homes burn versus 13. I am well aware, like
I stated to them when they were at my meeting, like in Malibu, it
is the nature of God. I have seen it where all the-'homes have burned
down but one. Or visa-versa, it burns everything right up but the
bush. I am talking about Beechwood Drive and Paradise Cove. It is
where people are wiped out, everything but one home. And so I know
that one house could burn over there and then can jump to mine. I
have a 100% shake roof and it is 17 years old and hoping in the
near future I could do whatever you do to it. To varnish it or..
not varnish, but the proper protection on it. The drainage is
a big concern with me, the sewage. I also would like to refer
to the minutes on page #4 of the last City Council meeting and
that is the 13 homes planned for this development and I am quoting
Mr. Taylor,.I hope he is correct because he is in construction,
"the 13 homes planned for this development and the lots will be
2,546 to 2,970 sq. feet. He remarked that the General Plan calls
for this site to-be.R-l with a 5,000 sq. ft. requirement. Also
Councilman Taylor stated that he was not opposed to 9 or 10 homes
and this would fit in with the R-1 requirements stated above. Well
he didn't say "stated above", but that is what it summarizes to.
However, to crowd in these homes as much as possible and then sell
them for a profit was not something that he would want for the neigh-
bors and the City. I don't know if his views have changed or where
he stands after studying the, packets. Mayor Imperial indicated
that he had a problem with any home that was built with no yard
with the possibility that some child having to play in the street.
Since then we have been informed that each home, property will
have 15 feet backyard.. Thank you. And that was since Sunday night
at our meeting. Is that correct? That wasn't stated at that time.
Councilman Bruesch stated that one his main concerns was the drain-
age and he wanted to make sure that it would not be necessary to
sandbag the, streets for the next. 50 or 60 years. He suggested there.
should be a definite.plan for drainage on these lots before it
is brought back for the Council's consideration. Which I am sure
that you people have done your homework and studies. I have heard
lots of rumors regarding the last paragraph on page 4 prior to
No. C., and I may be wrong, I believe the moratorium was just for
30 days til this meeting. Councilman Taylor requested that a mora-
moratorium limiting permits on.M ssion.Drive be.placed on the next
Agenda for study. This will stop building until it is acted upon.
If I remember correctly, listened correctly, I think you people did
say it was for 30 days until this meeting so you people would have
time for study, but I could be wrong. Well, when I address, you
Gentlemen, I came.to the City Planning Meeting, and I am also
planning to come to this next one because I have been reading in
the Rosemead Independent. It is constructive criticism, please,
do not think that I am being cruel. I am only being...' helping you
to being aware of things. I may not know the proper procedure
but when I see.what took place at Monday nights City Council meeting
frightened me also I mean not City Council, but City Planning.
O.K.? Several gentlemen had very valid concerns. It was interest-
ing to watch the body language, the eye contact, questions, within
a few minutes after a brief discussion of 15 or 20 minutes, I don't
know how long they discussed, these.good, valid concerns they all
voted... well, they had two votes. 1 think one was three yes's and
one.no and then it was four yes's and they approved it. This gentle-
man was there. It just, you know, I have contacted Mr. & Mrs. Neil
Van Fossen and they were gracious enough to maps out of the maps
Mr. Chicots gave me. I don't have any more. I don't know what
happened to them. They disappeared from my home. I think that my
closing statement I have already read. I would appreciate,it if the
above concern would be considered and approved with two to three fewer
homes built. The developer could walk away with the same amount of
profit, build a better quality home and charge more money. Page #14
Weidemann continues: I would like to close saying that I do not
lose my values or soul for my selfish reasons only. I have tried
to be considerate of all persons requested and concerns for me.
Please, please do not let residential motels be built. It is
important that sidewalks be there and curbs. I am sure that there
is some data ...of the drainage and curbs...
Taylor: Mr. Mayor..
Mayor: Mr. Taylor, question to Mrs. Weidemann again, I didn't get
any specific objection.to the project.
Weidemann: No. It is just to meet the valid concerned needs which
unless we went back to the drawing board and met some of them.
Taylor: Which ones did he not meet?
Weidemann: Were the sidewalks mentioned?
Taylor: No.
Weidemann: The curbs. The 60 foot turn-around for the Fire De-
partment was met. I.am the novice and I don't know I am not
the engineer. I just don't want any problems later. Like I had
in my first statement. O.K. We don't want to be left with the
residue and.the problems.
Taylor: I think that there is a good faith effort being made.on
everyone's part to make sure that nothing is missed. So now is
the opportunity, if there is a problem and sidewalks -..could be a
problem. We also have people who apply to this City to the Plan-
ning Commission and such where we continuously have waivers by
the homeowners that lived in their homes for many years. And it
is throughout the City. They do not want sidewalks. The City Code
requires new sidewalks be put in front of every home after $5000 or
it is $7000-$10,000 worth of improvement. The residence are asked
if it is...Well, it is not as expensive as the $10,000 improvement
but it could be $800 or $1500. But they are continually asking
that they not be put in. if they'.are not on.the street by a majority
that is already in.
Weidemann The main fareway
Taylor: I think I have stated in the past that on-the main thorough-
fares or busy highways or to schools and such we do require the side-
walks where there is heavy traffic. So your concern is noted, side-
walks, but I want you to understand that it is not a mandatory type
thing.
Weidemann: Yes, I do understand and I appreciate that. Thank you
very much.
Taylor: Are there any other specifics?
Weidemann: Well, my one neighbor had stated that people have a
minimum of two.cars and there could be a possibility, I can remember
when we had five cars. My neighbor across the street has five cars.
They have a Mr. & Mrs. vehicle. They have a family van. They have
three girls in college and they each have vehicles. And that is
another thing, Mr. Rubel, did you... are you going to give back that
property that you came to my home on my lunch-hour and saw that one
of their parking spaces would be...you did discuss that with them.
Another very, very important fact. My neighbor called me one even-
ing when he asked me to have the meeting and said Dolores, I took
my little man-made stick or whatever it is, my surveyor stick and
walked, and you are going to lose one of your parking spaces on
your property on your driveway. I said, what do you mean I am
going to lose it? He-said, well, you notice that everybody has
that button. I guess that is the proper term. And I said, well,
I don't have one. So the best thing to do is to get the expert here,
and I called Mr. Rubel and he was gracious and kind enough to come.
I took my lunch-hour and got permission from my.principal, and came
and you know he held tape firm and he kept measuring and remeasuring
and remeasuring and Mr. Ellis was out there, and sure enough there
is a problem, but it isn't me that is going to lose it. It is Mr.
& Mrs. Ong who bought there home under false pretenses. Chi 1-13=87
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Weidemann continues: And that goes to show you poor planning
when our project was developed. That goes to show you right
there. So we have to be careful.
Taylor: -That is if the driveway is put in there, the emergency
driveway.
Weidemann: Yes.
Taylor: With.the wall that doesn't happen.
Weidemann: Yes, that is correct. You have the drainage and
the sewage and all that kind of stuff. You know I am sure that
Norm has gone back to the table and re-looked. I think that
everyone has tried to be conscientious to our concerns and tried
to be as fair, or are going to be as fair as they can, and that
is all we are asking of you.
Mayor: Thank you.
Weidemann: Thank you
Mr. Ellis: Can I say something?
Mayor: Sure.
Ellis: I am Larry Ellis. I live at 8512 Turpin Street. I think
that I am the only one that Mrs. Rose Wong didn't contact. When
this project was brought to my attention, my main concern was,-no
access to Turpin, and a continuous six foot masonry wall built on
the property line and no water drainage problems for Turpin and
Halkett Streets. We have an exceptional nice neighborhood and
neighbors and we want it left that way. Just the way it is, and
if these conditions are met, this project has my approval. With
this project approved with our conditions met we will know what
to expect. If it is turned down, the unknown possibilities could
be anything. Remember this valuable property is not going to lie
empty for very long. Someone will eventually build something there.
Thank you..
Taylor: Mr. Ellis. Point of clarification., you had contacted me.'
You called me on the phone and we had a short discussion and
you had, asked me a couple of questions and I would.like it clari-
fied now,--that if I had ever worked for Mrs. Wong or done any
building whatsoever. I said that I would prefer that we meet at
this City Council Meeting and this is one reason that I have re-
iterated this for over 12 years. That if someone calls and has
a question, I don't mind answering that, but anything to do with
something of this nature, or that is on the Agenda, as I told you,
it is. best to meet with this entire body and everyone in the same
room and there is no misunderstanding. There is no misconceptions
about what is being said. Everyone has a chance to ask someone
else. On a one to one basis, it could be a disaster. And I learned
that when I first got on the Council. I as accused of..you don't
understand, that was not what was said, so that hasn't happened...
That was my reason that I wanted everyone here. That is my policy.
Mrs..Wong had called and asked that I call her. Mrs. Wong is hear-
ing now why I don't want-to discuss things. If it is a public
matter it is going to be discussed here publicly. Mrs. Weidemann
had called, I didn't return-her call. So when you had.called, you
seemed a little bit upset about that I didn't want to talk to any-
body, and you had asked had I worked for Mrs. Wong or of anything
of that nature.
Ellis: I wasn't implying anything..
Taylor: Well, when you asked the question, and I am answering it
now. And Mrs. Wong I am going to ask her. If we have ever had
any business dealings at all.
Mrs. Wong: No. Not ever.
Ellis: Well, you are in the building business and I thought it
was possible that you might have.
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Taylor: That's why we discuss it here, and it
and it is cleared.up. That is all there is to
is stated, you and your neighbors or any other
know, they didn't hear it. That is why I have
I just wanted to tell you that for your advant
Mr. Mayor.
Ellis: Good process..
Mayor: Anyone else wish to speak?
is on the record
it, but unless it
issue, they don't
that policy. So
age. That is all,
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, there were ...and again, there were five people
who stood up over there as far as wanting to talk, and...don't ever
be shy or intimidated and such. It is your turn to talk. If you
want to talk, talk.
Baracchini: I'll make a restatement. My name is Dan Baracchini,
4515 Halckett...
Mayor:, 4515 what sir?
Baracchini': 4515 Halckett.
Ta loq Your name sir?
a acchini: First name is Dan Last name is Baracchini.
Taylor: Thank you.
Baracchini: My property is just south of this development, but
it is kiddy-corner. First I would like to thank the City Council
and I.would like to thank the members of the Planning Commission.
Going back to last September, I have gone to the Planning Commis-
sion members, I think four times, and they have been very helpful
in supplying information to me on the project. My main concern is
the drainage because the property does have a sheet flow problem
and my concern has been relayed to the Engineers and the Architects
and the developer, and I believe that they have alleviated my con-
cern by stating that they do intend to provide drainage that would
not allow any sheet flow upon the adjacent property. So if that in,
fact is the way the development will be planned, I am-.happy with
that. I.also was concerned about the property line having the block
wall and I mentioned my concern at the meeting of December 27th
to the Architect and the Engineer and to the developer and at that
time, they were very much in favor of the block wall. They seemed
to have met that demand, or that concern. The concern about Turpin
being opened for emergency traffic was one that I thought was going
to be tough to do away with because of Fire Department requirements.
I was happy to find out that in fact will not occur, and that there
will be an improvement there because of the block wall. The.devel-
opment of the property, the 12 homes, providing the additional
play area is a positive point because these.homes will have children
in them and they will need places to play. It would be nice if
it would be economically feasible to put 8 homes in there or 9 homes,
but I think the selling price as it is now stated at $180,000
Wong: $150,000 to $160,000.
Barracchini: Yes, the $160,000 starts to get a little high for
that area of Rosemead. If it were to go to 8 homes, the economical
feasibility would be to price these homes out of the market. I
think we are in a situation where we have to accept the best pos-
sible alternative and if these particular concerns are met, the
concerns that have been presented, I think that the homeowners
that are primarily affected would be happy with the development.
Mayor: You have made some very good points. Anyone else wishing
to speak on this item? Your name and address please.
Rolando Ong: My naive-is Rolando Ong and I live at 8503 Turpin St.
I am the owner of lot 25. Well, I hope the Council will bear with
me and I hope that they will understand. Among the neighbors living
in the area, my family and I should be most.concerned since my pro-
perty is located just a few feet away to the Planned Development.
Well, upon learning about this development,the primary concern I
have in mind deals with the possibility of opening Turpin Street,
and the hassle we are going to have during construction time.
Because Turpin Street is our main thoroughfare going to and coming
from work. This is where most of the time we park are cars, and
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Ong continues: also the construction of a complete fence could
divide the property line. Now, this worry, or the worry from
these concerns were cleared, when Mrs. Wong and her company went
to the meeting that Mrs. Weidemann is talking about and made clear
to us that Turpin Street will not be touched at all. The street
will remain as planned in tact, and they are going to build a
complete fence all the way to the border.
Mayor: Block Wall?
Ong: Block Wall. So with this intention,an exception made by the
developer, I want to put on record that this exception they will do
just in case this project will be approved. Because I know that
we can rely on their statement probably and this development will
improve and beautify the community. That's all, Mr. Mayor, thank
you.
Mayor: Any further comment on this? Alright, the developer has a
chance for a rebuttal on any comment that was made at this point.
Brief rebuttal and after that we will close the Public Hearing.
Wong: I want to explain a little bit about the neighborhood meet-
ing and the accusations by Mrs. Weidemann. My purpose in going
to these neighborhood meetings and calling up the neighbors was
just to understand what they want. I am very concerned with what
they want.. Because I know they are going to live there, and I
don't want them to feel that I came in just for a profit. I also
got very emotionally involved.which I shouldn't as a businessman
or a businesswoman with Mr. Richardsons family. I know Mr. Richard-
son has three cancer surgeries and he is going to leave this world
in a very short time. I feel that I want to do something for him.
Not only about the development, but the moratorium ordered. Because
I know that he needs the money and his mother needs the money.
That is why I go out of my way-This to me is not a business venture
any more. I say this is something very personal and it is getting
to me. That is one of the reasons why I go to the neighborhood.
meeting.twice to keep contacting with the neighbors. I tried to
do and compromise whatever they want.
Mayor: Let me ask you a question Mrs. Wong.
Wong: Yes.
Mayor: If'you were having some kind of.a function at your house,
wouldn't you expect the people to be invited?
Wong: Well, I had no intention of barging in that day....
Mayor: If you were asked to leave, would you leave gratiously or
would you
Wong: I was not...the neighbors want me to be there-most of the
neighbors were at that meeting, they can speak for me'. I will say
that after they had the neighborhood meeting, I was told to leave
and I wanted to leave, but we could not leave because we lend that
plan to Mrs. Weidemann to explain to her neighbors. We were told
by the Architect to wait for the meeting to end to pick up the plans
and go home, and deliver it back to his office the next day. That
is why we stayed. So we did not hang around after conference start,
we go to the living room.and wait.
Mayor: Alright. Is that the end of your rebuttal?
Wong: About the drainage problem, maybe the architect and my
engineer wants to talk about it.to explain it. Whatever they want.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor. How long have you been involved with the
development or building like this?
Wong: You mean my experience?
Taylor.: Yes.
Wong: This is my first time, and I own properties, but they are
mostly apartments and shopping centers. This is my first building
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Taylor: I have got to ask you some questions.that may seem
personal, but there are some things that I have to get straightened
out in my mind about certain things that have happened here. This
is.your first project. Have you been involved with others, that
have done these projects in the past?
Wong: No.
Taylor: Mrs. Kuo is your sister?
Wong: Yes.
Taylor: How long has she been in real estate?
Wong: She has been in real estate for many years, but we have
never worked together.
Taylor: May I ask you your age?
Wong: I am 30.
Taylor: And your sister's age?
Wong: I think she is 39 to 40.
Taylor: She has•been in real estate how many years approximately?
Wong: I think more than 10.
Taylor: I am just curious about practices that go on as far as
understanding the processes of hearings like this. When matters
are brought before these bodies or Councils and such, the procedures
that should be followed and certain things that should not be done.
So that was the reason for some of those questions there. I still
don't have the answer in my mind, but I had to ask to get some
background information on procedures that have been handled. Had
a couple of other questions, but I guess we need your architect
to answer those. That is all I have of Mrs. Wong, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Alright, thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak.before
we close the public hearing?
Taylor: I have some questions of the architect. The drainage.
The discussion was that it is going to go west now to Earle Street.
Eskuri: Yes, sir. They have acquired an easement so that they can
either do it by gravity or pump the water out.
Taylor: That puzzles me. Why would the pump be needed,because it
seems to me that water drains southeast and all of a sudden you
are going northwest.
Mayor: I believe Mr. Taylor, that that was asked for at the request
of the staff. Was that correct Norm?
Taylor: But it goes back to the question that the residents had con-
cerns about pump failure and who is going to be responsible. The
CC & R's...it gets back to the fact, that who is going to.enforce
those? Who is going to assess the collections on twelve different
homeowners if the pump fails. Does everybody understand that to
begin with? And what if they don't pay? Does the City have the
authority in those CC & R's to go in and change the pump and put
a lien on all the properties, a tax lien? Those are the things
that we have to get resolved. We just can't come into the meeting
and say this is what we will do, and find out it is pretty expensive
and we'll just pass it on to the homeowners, and when they buy it
that is when they find out. So those kinds of things, we have to
get answers for, we don't have them tonight.
Direnzi: I would like to address that question for you.
Taylor: Go ahead.
Direnzi: The CC & R's normally have provisions in them to give the
homeowners association the right to take care of these repairs and
assess the homeowners involved and even to place liens on the homes,. of
owners that do not pay a special assessment. Page #19
Direnzi continues: If the City wants to see the specific language
of that in the CC & R's, that could be provided for the examination
by the City Attorney. If Councilman Taylor feels that even that
is not sufficient, some additional language could be inserted to
give the City the right to do that if the homeowners association
fails to do it.
Taylor: I think what we are up against is, if the homeowners do
not.... it is the people on the south.-end of the project that will
suffer..Of'your 12 houses and such, 8 to 10.on.the`north won't`.even
know it. Everything would be going south and the surrounding
neighborhood and such, it becomes their problem.if the pumps don't
function and such. Then what.happens to the good faith of the resi-
dents and the City, Commissions at large.
Direnzi: O.K. Well, the ...that is the whole purpose of having
a homeowners association, though. And the board of directors of
an association is normally empowered to take care,of these items, generally,
without a vote of the homeowners. Some specific items usually do re-
quire a vote of the homeowners and in that case it is usually a majority
vote that empowers the board of directors to take care of these things.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor. Point of information. This gets down to some
of this puzzling portions. How many developments have we had re-
cently that we can recall, that are single family homes? I am not
talking about condominiums, town houses, or air-rights or air-space
or any of that. I am trying to recall how many R-1 family homes,
tracts or developments where we have CC & R's for single family
homes'.
Kress: Several. Where there is a common driveway.
Taylor: The common driveway. I know we have done those.
Mayor: I think four or five, Mr. Taylor. The City Manager can
answer that..
Taylor: But a flag lot you cannot sell the property off as R-1
residence. They remain under one ownership. We are kind of...
Mr. Chicots is shaking his head.
Chicots: Flag Lots could be individual homes.
Taylor: They can be square footage-wise. What happens on a 11,000
sq. foot lot? How many homes can be built on there?
Chicots: Depending on the Zoning.
Taylor: If it-is zoned'R-1.
Chicots: Probably two in a flag lot zoning.
Taylor: Flag lot. 5,000 for the first one and 3,000...
Chicots: 6,000 for the first one and 5000 for each additional.
Taylor: If they sell them.
Chicots: If you are going to develop a.flag lot development, you
are talking about lots only
Taylor: I am talking about putting on additional housing in back
of your lot that is not for sale.
Chicots: You mean like several units on one lot?
Taylor: Yes, what is the requirement.
Chicots: It just meets the standard for drainage.
Taylor: What is the square footage to build an additional home
behind an R-1?
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Taylor: Are you sure? Are you sure what you are saying?
Chicots: You are talking about....
Taylor: I am talking about flag lot deep ordinance.
Chicots: Deep Lot and Flag Lot are two different subjects.
Taylor: O.K. What is a Flag Lot?
Chicots: O.K. A Flag Lot is a parcel of land that is subdivided
land that is owned by different owners.
Taylor: O.K. What is a Deep Lot?
Chicots: A Deep Lot is a.piece of property that is subdivided,
not subdivided but, is divided for design purposes but is under
one ownership.
Taylor: Does this qualify for Deep Lot or Flag Lot?
Chicots: It doesn't qualify for either.
Taylor: What would it qualify for?
Chicots: This is something similar to single lot line or,zero
lot line standards. It has single family development standards
plus it has the CC & R's to take care of the common areas.
Taylor: O.K. Mr. Mayor, I know that we have developed a lot of
Deep Lots in the City, and correct me if I am wrong, but it is
6,000 square feet for the first residence and is it 3,000 for the
second? And I think you can put two on an R-1 or R-2?
Chicots: A maximum of three.
Taylor: A maximum of a three, and what I am puzzled here is
that we are getting down to 2500 and 2970 sq. ft. We are putting
in the small lots and we are circumventing the 5,000 or 6,000 sq.
ft. requirement. That is what I find upsetting about it and if
we do it for this property, then it is not fair to say, to the
other property owners and such. We are setting a precedent that
this is what we are going to do. We are going to downgrade all
of the requirements. If you have enough property and you have
got a large piece,. we eliminate the standards for you. If you
only have a small lot, Flag Lot you can only put three on it,
we are going to hold you to the requirements. And that is why
it has got to go back to this Council. What are we going to do
as far as development of these big lots, or these deep lots.
Direnzi: Can I clarify that? What we are talking about is not
a large lot that is all zoned R-1.
Taylor: I understand that. You have an R-3 and an R-1.
Direnzi: We are not asking for a total R-1 lot to be changed to
P-D. Now the City's P-D requirements.allow lot sizes as small as
2000 or 2200 square feet. That is what:your existing P-D zone a1=
lows. We are asking that instead of developing-an apartment pro-
ject in front of this property and five or six homes in the rear,
which would definitely require using Turpin for access to those
single family homes. Access which is legally available, we are
asking to rezone the entire property to provide a density that
would be less than what is available under the current zoning.
And that is where this piece of property is unique in that situa-
tion. Because it does not have a single zone over the entire pro-
perty.
Mayor: Is that all Mr. Taylor?
Taylor: Yes, that is fine. Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: If there is no.further comment, thank you sir, at this
point we will close the public hearing. The Public Hearing is
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Taylor: Well, Mr. Mayor, I think we all know this is a very
sticky situation here. I would like to hear from the City
Attorney as far as the voting options that each councilmember
has. Do they have a right to vote "yes" "no" or must.they
"abstain"?
Bruesch: Mr. Chairman...
Taylor: Excuse me, Mr. Kress..
Mayor: We would like to hear from Mr. Kress first, Mr. Bruesch.
Kress: Well, I think it is only fair to disclose what we are
talking about and some people in the audience may know.about it
and some people may not. Mrs. Kuo who is not here this evening,
met individually with three members of the City Council seeking
their approval on the project, and at the time of those meetings,
she tendered a check to each of those members of the Council. We,
the Council has come forward and discussed that with the City At-
torney and the City Manager, we have asked the District Attorney
to investigate this matter. It is unclear at this time, who is
involved. Whether Mrs. Kuo was acting on her own-those matters
will come to light. Each member of the Council has either rejected
or returned the check that was tendered. Each of those members
has indicated to me that they feel at this point that the process
has been tainted and that while the project itself may have some
merit and has had staff approval, recommendation for approval, and
Planning Commission support, at this point these kinds of tactics
simply cannot be tolerated. And it is my understanding, Mr. Mayor
those members of the Council who were approached, and that is every-
one except Mr. Taylor, who I believe did not return telephone calls
but he can indicate what his own status is. I believe each of those
members of the Council who were.approached by Mrs. Kuo have indi-
cated a desire to abstain from voting on this project at this time.
You also have on your Agenda an Item III-C, the proposed moratorium
which was requested by Councilman Taylor at the last meeting. For
clarification, this was prepared, It has not been in effect for
the past 30 days. It is up for action this evening. It is proposed
for action this evening. It was prepared for a moratorium for a
45 day period and that period was chosen because that is the maxi-
mum allowed by State Law without a Public Hearing. It can be re-
newed for additional lengths of time after a Public Hearing. So
if you chose to enact a moratorium on the issuance of permits
within the specified area, that would be in effect for 45 days,
at which time a Public Hearing would be held before this body,
you can change the scope of the moratorium.,,-.You can extend the
moratorium. All of the options would be there, but again, to .
answer the question put, it is my understanding that three members
of the Council wish to abstain on this matter and that would leave
one person only, obviously, if that person, Councilmember, wanted
to take action there would be no second and thus no action possible.
on this matter. I don't know again, whether-the applicant and those
others involved were aware of this. They may wish to voluntarily re-
quest a continuance of this matter until there can be a cooling off
period. I don't know. That is my understanding of the facts that
transpired.
Taylor Mr'. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Taylor.
Taylor: Right now, my problem is with the City Zoning and or:.
Building Code requirements, and I didn't realize, I have to ad-
mit that the comment was made that we are down to 2200-sq. ft.
I think it is a disaster for the City. We talk about what is
happening in Monterey Park, the overcrowding and the high density
housing and such, and I think this moratorium, as far as imposing
that, we need to seriously get back to the.Planning Commission
because we can see what is happening. This plan is not as bad as
it might be, but I am really concerned about when we start, as the
plan'shows over there, when you start crowding the units in, three
and four bedrooms and the park, that is referred to is a good token,
but how many kids can play in one lot when you have got, I believe..
I am going to say half and half, how many
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Taylor: How many three bedrooms? Six?
Eskurii seven.
Taylor: How many four bedrooms?
Eskuri: Five.
Taylor: So you've got five times four, twenty and seven times three
is twenty-one. You've got...I am not saying that they are going
to be filled, but you have got a potential of 40 bedrooms and if
they have twenty children running around and'such...:It is not your
problem, as far as the density goes, but it becomes the City's
problem and it becomes the School's problems, it~becomes a safety
problem. It is not your project that is causing the City problems
but that is why it has got to go back to the Planning Commission.
We have to take a serious look at what we are actually doing.
Personally, I have to admit, I would like that project over condo-
miniums or townhouses or apartments. We are down to the point now,
what can we actually do about it? I think there is any action that
we can take tonight. We can vote on this action or we can continue
it for two weeks.
Mayor: My problem and my concerns are yours, the very same as
yours, as far as crowding is concerned. We should be ;able to
look at places like Monterey Park and see what has- happened to,
them and determine at this point that we don't want it to happen
here. I think that is what we have striven to do. It is common
knowledge that I won't vote for apartment, a condominium. I would
vote for single family homes so everything should be.in proper per-
spective and not close together. Otherwise, what have we gained
but basically the same thing as we would with a condominium or an
apartment. Secondly, I would like to go on with the fact that:I
don't really feel that I can vote on this project at this time,
based upon what has happened. Sunday morning I was approached.
A lady parked across the street from my house and walked up the
driveway and I looked and I said "no" it can't be, and I got in
my car and started to move off and she was at my car window by
that time. :Mrs. Kuo said she was determined to talk to me and I
was hard to get a hold of. And I said yes, I move around town
pretty fast, and that.'_I am going to meet a member of staff con-
cerning the Vietnam Memorial, and this was the only time that I
could meet with him and she was welcome to go along and I could
talk to her afterwards. Which I did. During this conversation,
I relayed to her that I thought it was pretty brassy that she would
seek me out at my house and how did she found out where. I was. She
told me how she found out where I was, after I told her I wouldn't
have conversation with her unless she told.me. I have an unlisted
number and I think that I deserve, like any one else the privacy
of my home. I was concerned with that plus the fact that during
this conversation, I was offered a check and I said "no thank you
I don't need the check" and she said it was to help you with your
campaign. I said I am not running now. I don't run for another
year from April. She asked me three or four different times there.
I said "no thank you I.don.'t need your check" and she said I would
like to help, and I said if you want to help when the time comes,
when I run again, and if you want to give me some physical help for
a fund raiser, maybe I would consider that, but at this point, I
don't need your money. At this point,I have seen some pretty.
brassy things in my time on the Council and this was brassy, no
doubt brassy. I just wondered what I am dealing with here and
whether I can in good conscience vote on the project regardless
of how good it is. If the people who are perpretating this project,
do this kind of an act, I really would have a,-,problem from doing
anything but abstaining tonight because of the.fact that she mentioned
to me that it was not a bribe, but.the fact remains that the money
was offered to me and that goes without saying. I couldn't in'.'
good conscience vote on this project.
Bruesch: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Bruesch:
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Bruesch: Referring back to Mr. Taylor's comments about deep lots,
flag lots and so-forth. In the very near future we'71-have:before'_ '
us'a new zoning ordinance which for about three months, I have gone
over tooth and nail. I have noticed the zoning ordinance does have
a bit more restrictive ideas about lot size.' In fact we don't have
a Flag Lot ordinance any more, if I am not mistaken. One of the
things I do notice in.the Planned Development, I think the idea
of Planned Development is just this type of give and take that
we see coming with the smaller lots and so forth and so on, but
we need this, why not give that,up the number of lots, up the
number of square feet in your thing. That is what your Planned
Development is suppose to be. It is not supposed to be a develop-
ment that comes in and say-h6re--,is-your development-papers and
leave it. I'think this City Council and I'commend the Planning
Commission too, as I have seen these Planned Development come in,
there has been this type of give and take. There was this type
of give and take in this development. I saw very asserted efforts
on the part of the architect and the engineer in this development
to make the needed changes, the wanted and desired changes. Even to
upping the lot size a bit, and taking off one of the units and making
the turn-around. I believe there was room for more of these type
of agreements. I looked at the Richardsons family, and I see that
they are in dire circumstances. I see that and I feel for them and
I know what they are going through. I have been through very much
the same situation.myself. But I too, have been compromised. I,
too, have had my integrity questioned. I, too, have had somebody
uninvited come to my house. I, too, have told that person that is
not the way I operate and that is not the way a business will oper-
ate in the City of Rosemead as long as I have anything to say about
it. I am sorry if I come on strong about this, but this has been
a tenant of my moral beliefs and political beliefs all of my life.
A public official is not here to be bought. And any body who tries
to do that with me in this City, may as well just pick up and pack
up and go away because I will ,be.... Mrs. Wong you can tell your
sister that I do not want to. see her at my home or on my street
or any where near me from this point on.
Mayor: Point of information, Mrs. Wong? Point of information.
Mrs. Wong were you aware that your sister was out trying to pass
out checks to the City Council?
Wong: I want to answer with my attorney.
Mayor: O.K. Because she and I wasn't aware that she had
offered anybody-but-me a check which- I>turned'down at that time,
but she would have offered all four of the City Council a check
it she could have got to the fourth one,and'l..just wondered if.
you were aware of what she was doing. And you say that you can't
answer at this time.
Wong: Not without my attorney.
Mayor: O. K. Mr. Richardson.
Richardson: On behalf of the Richardson family I would like to
go on record as saying that action was not ours, with our know-
ledge or anything like that.
Mayor: Mr. Richardson, I am sure that never entered any member
of the City Council's mind. The Richardson family has been well
respected in this community and it would surprise the devil out
of me if that were to be the case. I certainly have compassion
for your situation, Mr. Richardson, but you can understand what
the feelings of the City Council are at this point.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Taylor..
Taylor: The only recommendation that I can make tonight is that
this be continued for two weeks.
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Lupe Richardson: Can we still put our land up for sale?
Taylor: Yes, you can put your land up for sale. Was that your
question?
Mayor: Yes.
Taylor: Your land could be sold at any time. That has nothing
to do with.it, but there are other things that you,.were not aware
of tonight and it does compromise an public agency as far as what
this City Council ...what is the integrity of this Council? I have
to give credit where credit is due, and the three Councilmembers,
I think that the City ought to be proud that they were not bought
off. That's the only way to put it. The thing about it and such,
call it a campaign contribution, call it anything you want, but
three days before the meeting that is not the way it is done. That
is why I asked Mrs. Wong some of the background that was necessary.
It is embarrassing. It hurts the Richardson family as far as what
can we do. I would like to see something resolved. I want you to
sell your property. I want it to be developed and such, and none
of the residents, I don't have one thing listed here that they are
objecting to. So the project as it stands, it is not so much the
way it is being presented; the residents are in agreement to it.
That is what is hard about it. The residents for the City of Rose-
mead by and large are not in favor of high density housing. That
is what the whole issue is. How much are we going to allow to be
put on lots, and you have a unique lot right now. But what we are
saying is that we are going to allow discretion and cut our require-
ments in half, from 6,000 to 3,000. And it is true, maybe the code
does allow that right now, but that is not really what the residents
in the entire City your one parcel, next week we.will take another
parcel and so it goes on week after week. Well, we know, this Council
knows that by and large. the City does not want high density housing.
And that is high density housing when you start cramping in 3,000
sq. ft. It is not condominiums or apartments, but it is narrowing
down the lot sizes where there is just... just picture those houses
where there is five cars surrounding each one of them. Sure at
Christmas time, you can't just have just five guests. Somebody is
going to lose their parking place and then it overflows onto the
street. We have more of a problem than just approving this one
project, it is a Citywide thing that we have to resolve. I am
sorry that the moratorium has come at this time.or this particular
project. But somewhere this Council has to draw a line and say
well, when are we going to start. And that's where we are tonight,
and that's all that I have Mr. Mayor, as far as the two weeks,
let's bring it back with a little cooling off period and then see
if ,you want to take another shot at it.
Bruesch: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Bruesch:
Bruesch: Again I want to reiterate that I am in favor of the
Planned Development Process and I think I made that'very clear.
I think that in a situation as is facing us with other parcels
in the City. A developer has a particular idea. A City Council
has a particular philosophy. Right now, as the make-up of the
City Council is now, we want to see open spaces. We want to see
large lots. Maybe it is not quite what a developer wants, but
there is a give and take process which can take place in a public
meeting in the halls of the Council with the help of staff. You
give a little, we give a little. We.know what your thinking pro-
cess is and you know what our process of thinking is. That is
what it should be, and up until Saturday that is what it was on
this particular project.
Mayor: Is that all Mr. Bruesch?
Bruesch: Yes.
Mayor: Mr. Cleveland.
Cleveland: Mr. Mayor it has been my intention to vote for this
project and I had fully made up my mind to vote for it, and had
it not been for the mistake that Mrs. Kuo made, I certainly would
have voted for this project tonight. But the method that they
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Cleveland continues: used in order,to induce me to cast a
vote after I had already made up my mind, was not the kind of
inducement that I would ever accept and I think that they
should very definitely realize their mistake and make no future
efforts to bribe the City Council of the City of Rosemead. Be-
cause I won't take their money and I know that there is nobody
else on the Council that would take it. But,it rather hurts me
to see a project of this kind. go down the drain, because of some
action by the developers and I sincerely hope that this meeting
tonight will-reflect on all future developers in the City of Rose-
mead..- who come_to'us_:wit h:an honest project, one that we can make a
decission on and we might even go a little overboard and make a
few exceptions, if your project is good.and if your efforts are
honest. So don't ever bring me another project and hand me a
check to pass it because it will never happen my life.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr.. Taylor.
Taylor: Who is going to be hurt by the denial of the project?
Mayor: I would say, first of all the Richardsons, because they
have a very definite problem and I certainly have compassion with
it, but they are going to be hurt it that is the case. I would
say this might hurt the credibility of a lot of good people be-
cause this shouldn't even have happened. I feel that there was a
challenge to my integrity. So I am not happy with it. I just am
happy for one thing that happened tonight, and I think it has been
said loud and clear in this council chamber tonight. We can be
talked to. We can be badgered, but we cannot be bought. And that's
it.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, I am still in the awkward position of...do I
personally have to say, no. Absolutely no more lots of this
nature. It just happens to be the Richardson family are the
victims of timing and circumstances in several ways. What happened
to the financing of it, and what we as the Council are doing as far
as revising the building codes and such. And I do feel uncomfortable
in the situation. I think it is a pretty good project, and I have
a hangup and I think that we need to make a decision, but not tonight.
We can't, but at the next meeting, I would like something back on
the Agenda, that we are going right back to the Planning. Commission
with this moratorium and get.this corrected. If we compromise at
4000 sq. ft. on a Planned Development. But I don't think that a
Planned Development should have the protection of jeopardizing our
single family residences by saying O. K. we will let you go to
2200 sq. ft. But I don't feel comfortable penalizing the Richard-
sons tonight because of what has happened and because of something
that we have to do as a Council. So if we put it off for two weeks,
what have we gained and what have we lost?
Richardson: You are going to put it off?
Taylor: Do you want a "no" tonight? You will get it. Don't
get me wrong, but that is what we are actually saying. It is
going to be "no" tonight. I am sorry Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Mr. Richardson.
Richardson: My sister-in-law when she made her presentation earlier
had indicated that the escrow had been cancelled with Mrs..Wong be-
cause we have ...the Richardson family has not received a dime. My
question is, if the same project is brought to you by the Richardson
family and another developer, would it pass? That, is something that
I would like to take back to the family and we are going to talk to
an attorney tomorrow about ending our association with:... obviously
the piece of property requires a similar type project.
Mayor: The answer to that is what we said,tonight. Are we building
blight?. Are these things too close? This is a determination that
will have to be made: To give you a blanket answer and I think that
the Council will concurr with this, to give you a blanket answer and
say yes, you can put the same project on that same piece of property,
I cannot give you that answer. That is a Council decision that will
have to be discussed. As far as another developer, I cannot say to
do it or not do it. I can just say that I am uncomfortable with the
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Bruesch: I will give you the same answer that I gave Mrs. Kuo.
You know, again it is a give and take process. You jiggle a line
here and we jiggle a line there. You give us a few more sq..ft.
here and.we give you a few more sq. ft. there. We can't give
you a flat out yes or no right now. I am uncomfortable with the
small lot size. R-1 lot sizes under the new proposed zoning
ordinance is going to be not 5000 but 6000 sq. ft. And there-
fore, your lots here will be less than half of that size. What
if they had..... put these houses in a R-1 Zone in 30 years, they
would be in such non-compliance that you couldn't build on to the
houses, garage or so forth. Who knows. Are we going to saddle
people buying houses now, 20 or 25 years down the road with some-
thing that they can not use or develop on their own. This is what
we have to think about too.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor. Point of information to what Mr. Bruesch is
saying. His point is well-taken because in the southern part of
the City, the County requirements, we have 25 ft. wide lots and
people ...you think about it right now, 25 ft. why that is unheard
of, but his point is, we are going down to 2500 sq. ft. for a house
on the lot. What is the difference if it is 25 ft. wide by 100 ft.
deep, 2500 sq. ft., and that's what a lot of the lots are. 25 ft.
wide and 100 ft. deep. They are not buildable according to City
standards and we will have a project here. If that was built, it
would be here for 40 or 50 years. That is how long houses stay on
an average. Go ahead Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: I think we have run this thing around the clock a couple of
times, gentlemen, what is your pleasure?
Bruesch: I move that we table the public hearing and have it re-
opened two weeks from now. Is that legal, Mr. Kress?
Kress: Continue the matter for decision. The Public Hearing has
been closed and the Council has indicated an unwillingness to vote
at this time due to the circumstances. If no action is taken this
matter would remain on the table and would be on the next agenda.
Bruesch: Mr. Kress, a point of information. In defference to
the Richardsons, at that time would the Mayor have the prerogative
to reopen the Public Hearing.
Mayor: There is no reason for a Public Hearing, Mr. Bruesch. We
have already determined all the pros and cons here. I don't see
any reason for a Public Hearing. Am I correct, Mr. City Attorney?
Kress: Yes, the matter has been well aired and certainly the
Council always has the opportunity to ask questions after the
hearing is closed. All those persons who are interested in this
matter who are still here at this late hour, are certainly invited
to come and see what transpires -at .the_next meeting:' This `Council has
never been one to close off input, but I agree with the Mayor that
the matter has been well aired and there is no necessity for re-
opening and continuing the hearing.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor..
Mayor: Mrs. Weidemann, you have a brief comment?
Weidemann: Correct me if I am wrong, but if there was not a new
developer who it would be, wouldn't you have to extend them that
courtesy of a public hearing. If there were valid-concerns,be
it the residents or beat a new developer. I am being objective
to this, listening to what is going on. I could see your statement
if it were going back to Wong.
Mayor: We have got a project that was basically alright and we
know what your needs are.
Weidemann: Oh,, I don't mean me, I mean the new developer.
Mayor: We know what the needs are in
in mind we can deal with anything that
point. 0. K. Knowing what the needs
can be informed, but to have a public
reason for it.
that area and with this
would come forward at this
are. I don't have a...You
hearing, I don't see any
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Weidemann: Well, I was just concerned if it were a new developer.
Mayor: We know now what has to be done.
Weidemann: I also would like to take advantage of this opportunity
and hope that Jim's son, Jim Richardson understands, that all we
are:..: 'because I sensed some bad vibes when I came in
because I felt that she was told negative things about me. I do
not take it personally, because I am Linda's friend. You know
you, yourself and your family, your children, your grandfather,
who it was my pleasure to stay and take care of him and leave him
home at seven at night and help him with his diabilities before he
died.
Mayor: I am sure that the Richardson family is aware...
Weidemann:. Oh, they are aware.. All that we are asking is.
to please;-have less'; homes built to meet all the concerns.
Mayor: Thank you, Mrs. Weidemann.
Taylor: Mayor, I'd ask that....
Eskuri: Can i say something?
Mayor: Yes.
Eskuri: I was quite shocked by what has transpired. I had no
idea. My designs are based on the standards of the City and I would
like.sto`talk over the standards if 'they have to be modified. I want
to design my project to be the best I can. And that is the only
way I work. I am totally surprised about this and shocked. I am
totally against it. If my projects. can't go on their own merits,
then I'm sunk. I do my best to do the best project.
Mayor: Thank you.
Direnzi: I am Al Direnzi,again; I wanted to go on record that I
had no knowledge of this. It is very important to me to maintain
my own integrity on how I do things. We have other projects in
the City of Rosemead we are working on and we intend to do other
projects. As from aside from this, I do want to say to the Council
addressing the concerns of Councilman Taylor, if you don't like your
codes the way they are, change them, and please don't make subjective
disapprovals on codes that you don't like. It is very hard for us
as Engineers and Architects to plan these projects. .
Taylor: Did you understand my point, though? Is that what I said
tonight? That we need to change this..it is a victim of circum-
stances. That somewhere in a city of 14,000 homes there is going
to be a cross point where somebody happens to be presenting a pro-
ject. Enough is enough.
Direnzi: I understand that, but you also need to keep in mind
when you cut the project off in mid-stream, you are cutting off.
the expenditure of a lot of money in engineering and architectural
expenses.
Taylor: Do you know what goes on in this City Hall every day?
There is not a day in here that there are not projects going on.
Not a single day. It is.nothing personal. It is not this pro-
ject.
Direnzi: All.I am saying is that we feel a lot of frustration from
the planning point of view. If we don't have something solid that
we can go on....
Taylor: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Let me ask you a question-Do you think that the City would
have put you through this if we realized that we had a problem there?
We are consistently trying to up-grade this type of situations. We
have just gone-.through our whole Zoning Ordinance. We are going to
find problems, very definitely, even after we do that, but we are
going to.correct them as we go along. That is the only answer that
I can give you. I am going to tell you.very.definitely, there is
no reason f'or,. this City to say o. k. we will fix it the next time, pg.
or the time after that. We are going to catch it as it comes up and p28
do what we have to with it. We owe that to the people of this town. .
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Councilman Taylor requested that this item be placed in the
minutes verbatim and there will probably be some legal action taken
anyway.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
B. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE
REQUIRING CERTAIN RESTAURANTS FEATURING PRIMARILY TAKE-
OUT FOOT TO CLOSE FROM MIDNIGHT TO 5:00 A. M.
The Mayor stated that the Public Hearing was now open and
inquired if there was anyone who wanted to speak.
Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar, stated that the reason for this
ordinance was Tommy's and it is closed now and is under new manage-
ment and inquired if the new management would have to follow new
guidelines.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that that property
has been taken back by property owner of the Shopping Center,
and will close every night at midnight.
Juan Nunez inquired if that type of restaurant has to provide
restroom facilities?
Mayor Imperial stated that if it is a take-out restaurant it
is not required to have restroom facilities.
Jim Guerra, Building Official, stated that the current Build-
ing Code of Rosemead does not require public restrooms and are re-
quired for employees only; however, there is an appendix in the
new up-coming code that will establish the guidelines for public
facilities but at this time the-current`codes don't require a public
bathroom.
Juan Nunez stated that with Tommy's the lack of restrooms
was very noticeable, and the people would use the entire neigh-
borhood as a latrine.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that the types of people
who frequented Tommy's would not have. used restroom facilities even
if they had them.
Mayor Imperial stated that he agreed with Mr. Nunez in that
if there is a business, there should be restroom facilities for
the public available.
Mayor Imperial inquired if anyone else wanted to speak on this
item. No one came forward. The Mayor closed the Public Hearing.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that there was no action
to be taken on this item.
Councilman Bruesch stated that he would like to have the item
kept on file.
III. LEGISLATIVE
A. RESOLUTION NO. 87-1 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS
RESOLUTION NO. 87-1
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS & DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $859,264.22
NUMBERED 10307-10328/00001-00053/1831 THROUGH 18475
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND
that Resolution No. 87-1 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Bruesch requested back-up information on Warrant
Nos'. 0012, 0014, 0051, 00053, 10317 and 10318.
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B. RESOLUTION NO. 87-2 - ORDERING THE CANVASS OF THE
SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE MADE BY CITY CLERK
RESOLUTION NO. 87-2
A RESOLUTION OF THE'CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
CALIFORNIA, ORDERING THE CANVASS OF THE SPECIAL MUNICIPAL
ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, MARCH 3, 1987, BE MADE BY
CITY CLERK
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH
that Resolution No. 87-2 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
C. URGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 593 - IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON
ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS FOR CERTAIN USES OF PRO-'
PERTIES WITHIN SPECIFIED AREAS OF THE CITY AND DIRECT-
ING PLANNING COMMISSION TO INITIATE A STUDY REGARDING
PROPER ZONING
ORDINANCE NO. 593
URGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON ISSUANCE OF BUILDING
PERMITS FOR CERTAIN USES OF PROPERTIES WITHIN SPECIFIED
AREAS OF THE CITY AND DIRECTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION
TO INITIATE A STUDY WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPER ZONING
OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR
that Ordinance No. 593 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Taylor requested that staff be directed to present
a list of similar projects of this nature that are in this City now
and this list to be prepared by the next Council Meeting. He stated
that he felt that the General Plan shows the areas being discussed
which are down zoned from high density to low density.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
D. RESOLUTION NO. 87-3 - RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO VACATE
PORTION OF FALLING LEAF AVENUE (PARCEL MAP #15676)
Councilman Taylor commented that the parcel map included in the
packet does not show the project adequately, and inquired what was
actually going to be on this parcel:
Steve Wells, developer, stated that the proposed property is
two separate lots and the preliminary site designs indicate that
if that one foot was granted then four detached homes could be
built on each of the two lots, with a total of eight homes.
Councilman Taylor inquired what the size of the lots would
be.
Mr. Wells stated that would be 6000 sq. ft on the first lot
and 3000 sq. ft. on each subsequent lot, which would be on the
rear of the 6000 sq. ft. lot.
Councilman Taylor stated that then by giving one foot off
the front, then three homes could be put on the back instead of
two.
Mr. Wells stated that was correct.
Councilman Bruesch inquired if.t.hese units would be apart-
ments or.single units.
Mr. Wells stated that they would be detached single
residences with attached garages with private yards, and
be primarily residential rental structures.
family
would
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RESOLUTION NO. 87-3
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
EXPRESSING ITS INTENTION TO VACATE A PORTION OF FALLING
LEAF AVENUE
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND
that Resolution No. 87-3 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AY E.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mr. &*Mrs. Daniel Gutierrez, owners of the property at
2316 Falling Leaf, requested the vacation of the one foot of
land...
Mayor Imperial stated that this had been acted upon.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that the Hearing has
been set for February 10, 1987 and the Resolution of Intention
has been adopted and the matter will be decided on February 10,
1987.
Councilman Bruesch inquired of Mr. Rubel, if this street
would still be a full width street with the one foot vacation.
Mr. Rubel stated that it would be.
IV. CONSENT. CALENDAR
Councilman Taylor inquired about Item H and wondered if
the City had a standard "Hold Harmless Agreement" with Willdan
as.far as any Engineering and Services provided. He did not
want the City to be named because it is on State property that
is being dealt with.
Councilman Bruesch stated that on Item H he would like a
memo explaining an Air Space Lease.
There being,no objection,it was so ordered.
Councilman Taylor inquired about Item J and commented that
in the past there have been thefts in City Hall, and inquired
what was in the Bid Specs regarding theft liability.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that they are re-
quired by Law to be fully bonded, and that had been one of the
problems with the low bidder who was not able to provide the.
necessary bonding.
Councilman:,Taylor inquired where it stated that it in the
Contract..
Donald Wagner, Assistant City Manager, stated that it was
on page 4 of the Bid Specs, Section 8.0.
Councilman Taylor stated that he also had a question mark
at Section 8.1 and inquired if 8;2 was the Section-regarding
the Labor and Indemnity Bonds and if this is were thefts would
be covered. He inquired if the company had submitted those
bonds.
Donald Wagner stated that they had.
CC-A REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND 5TH ANNUAL CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE PLANNING CONFERENCE IN SOLVANG, JANUARY 22-24,
1987.
CC-B REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR ROSEMEAD HANDY-
MAN PROGRAM/23RD BID PACKAGE
CC-C REQUEST.AUTHORIZATION TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR DEFERRED LOAN
PROGRAM/MACALUSO AT 4516 DELTA
CC-D AWARD BID FOR HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM/PINEIRA AT
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CC-E APPROVAL OF 1987-88 BUDGET CALENDAR
CC-F AUTHORIZATION REQUESTED TO ATTEND EMPLOYEES RELATIONS
INSTITUTE.IN SAN FRANCISCO, FEBRUARY 26 & 27, 1987
CC-G AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND ANNUAL CITY MANAGERS LEAGUE
MEETING IN MONTEREY, FEBRUARY 18-20, 1987
CC-H MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING--SAN GABRIEL BLVD., OVER-
CROSSING AT THE ROUTE 60 FREEWAY
CC-I APPROVAL OF FINAL PARCEL MAP #17240/3037 PROSPECT
CC-J APPROVAL OF CITY HALL BUILDING MAINTENANCE CONTRACT
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND
that the foregoing items on the Consent Calendar be approved. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION
A. SETTING A DATE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION INTERVIEWS
Councilman Taylor stated that he would not have a problem
with setting the date for the interviews for one of the alternate
Tuesday nights.
Mayor Imperial stated that February 3, 1987 at 7:00 p.m.
would.be an appropriate night to have the Planning Commission.
Interview Process.
There being no objections, it was so ordered.
B. AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH NOTIFICATION OF FALCON
COMMUNICATION TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION CONCERNING
FRANCHISE VIOLATIONS
Councilman Cleveland stated that this was merely requesting
authorization to send the attached letter to them.
Frank G.' Tripepi, City Manager, stated that was correct and
this authorizes the City Attorney to sign the letter and to send
it to Falcon.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BRUESCH
that authorization be granted to the City Attorney to sign the letter
to Falcon and send it. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
VII. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Councilman Taylor requested a copy of the report that
was referred to in the We-Tip Program regarding the Senior Citizens.
Mayor Imperial directed staff to do so.
Councilman Bruesch commented that since the Budget Calendar
had been approved, he wanted to remind staff of the request that
he had made regarding an itemized list of the Emergency Appropria-
tions, and also wanted to keep track of the current cost of the
Sheriff's Department as opposed to an in-house Police Department.
He wanted to see a cost comparison when the ..Sheriff's Contracts
are being considered at Budget time.
Mayor Imperial stated that surrounding Cities with Police
Departments can be checked into in order to compare costs, and
this will be presented to all the Councilmembers.
There being no further action to be taken, the City Council
Meeting was adjourned to January 27, 1987 at 8:00 p. m.
APPROVED:
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