CC - 09-10-85• APPROVED
CITY OF ROS"MEAD
DATE
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL
SEPTEMBER 10, 1985 AT 8:00 P.M.
The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was
called to order by Mayor Tury at 8:10 p. m., in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead,
California.
The Pledge to the Flag was led by Councilman Cleveland.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend Paul Bengtson.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Bruesch, Cleveland, Imperial, Taylor,
and Mayor Tury
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: JULY 30, 1985 - ADJOURNED MEETING
Councilman Taylor requested that these minutes be deferred
to the next meeting.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: AUGUST 27, 1985 - REGULAR MEETING
Councilman Bruesch requested that a statement that he made
regarding the proposed high school be placed into the Minutes.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
II. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN APPEAL TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS
DECISION TO DENY CUP 85-323 TO INCREASE SEATING IN THE
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS CHURCH AT 4203 ROSEMEAD BOULEVARD
Mayor Tury stated that the Public Hearing was now open and
inquired if there was anyone in the audience who would care to
speak regarding this matter.
Marlene Roth, Planning Consultant, 20 E. Colorado Blvd.
Suite #3204, Pasadena, spoke on behalf of the request for ex-
pansion of the Seventh Day Adventist Church at 4203 Rosemead
Boulevard. She commented that the Code allows for parking
within 500 feet of the site, and there has been 20 spaces allowed
by First American Bank, and would like to continue with the re-
lationship with the Church. It was the intention of the Church
to acquire the adjacent residential lot at the time they acquired
the church site; however, the site is being used by the Lutheran
Minister as his retirement residence and was not sold to the
Korean Seventh Day Adventists Church. She stated that the cur-
rent capacity of the Church is 170 seats with 24 parking spaces,
and the request is to expand the church to 200 seats with an addi-
tional 20 parking spaces for the added 30 seats. She added that
the Church has made an above market offer to the adjacent property
owner; however, has not received a response from the current owner.
Councilman Bruesch inquired if the building was going to be
expanded to accommodate the 30 extra seats.
Ms. Roth stated that the building was being expanded to the
rear.
Councilman Taylor commented that his main concern was the
purchase of the adjacent property and if there had been a good
faith effort at the time the original church site had been pur-
chased and if the Council allowed this expansion, there would
be even less leverage of the.church'needing the property.
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Councilman Imperial inquired how long the services last.
A lady from the audience stated that they last from 9:00 -
12:00.
Councilman Imperial stated that based on that information
he felt that their congregation be broken up into two separate
services. One could be from 9 to 12 and the other could be
from 12 to 3 or 4, and postpone this building until such time
that they can acquire the- building next door.
Councilman Bruesch suggested carpooling as a solution
to the parking problem.
Mayor Tury stated that the City requires so many parking
spaces for so many seats.
Councilman Taylor inquired what specific damages would hap-
pen to the church at this time if no action was taken or it was
postponed.or uphold the Planning Commissions decision.
Ms. Roth stated in answer to Councilman Imperial's question
and to Councilman Taylor's question, that it would not be easy to
break the services into a number of sessions, and the impact would
be an uncomfortable situation because it would be very crowded.
Councilman Imperial stated that he could see no reason why
separate services could not be held until the problem was resolved.
Mayor Tury inquired if there was anyone else who would like
to speak regarding this matter. There being none, stated that he
would like to place the letter from the First American Bank into
the record and also a letter from a resident... _
A F1 ST
MiMR,ICAN
****BANK
8917 E. VALLEY BLVD.
P.O. BOX 549
ROSEMEAD, CA 91770
213/287-6100
September 9, 1985
Honorable Mayor Louis Tury
and City Council
City of Rosemead
8838 East Valley Boulevard
Rosemead, CA 91770
RE: ROSEMEAD KOREAN CHURCH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION
Gentlemen:
It has come to our attention that the Planning Commission denied the request
of the Rosemead Korean Seventh-day Adventist Church for a Conditional Use
Permit to expand the existing sanctuary and that the denial was based on the
lack of sufficient parking spaces on the property.
On April 10, 1985 we entered a Covenant and Agreement for community parking
with the Rosemead Korean SDA Church which provides 20 slots during designated
hours on Friday evenings and on Saturdays for their use. We have been very
well pleased with the implementation of this agreement and look forward to
a long and happy relationship. .
We are impressed with the improvements they have made at the church site and
feel that their presence is an asset to the community. And in view of the
off-site parking arrangements, the expansion for 30 additional seats should not
create a parking problem. Therefore, we hereby register our support of the
appeal and the approval of the Conditional Use Permit.
Sincerely,
V
W. L. O'Mara
President, C. E. 0.
Chairman of the Board
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Mayor Tury closed the Public Hearing since no one else care
to speak regarding this matter.
Councilman Bruesch stated that he too had gone through the
pain and hardship of finding a new church site because his church
had grown too big for its bounds. He remembered the many, many
years of searching for a new site and he knew what these people
are going through. That was the reason he had suggested carpool-
ing. He knows how a tightknit congregation feels when they need
more space, and then they finally find the place and it still
doesn't really adequately meet their needs. He stated that he
would like the staff and these people to.work out a program where
they can meet the requirements and still have their expansion.
He felt that the expansion was needed now, and he recommended
that they be allowed to expand and using the bank parking.
Councilman Imperial stated that he felt that they should
alter their services so that the parking problem can be resolved.
Parking in the area has been bad, and he did not feel that any
more problems should be added to what there is now, and that by
alternating services in order not to lose any church members,
at least until they could come up with adequate parking. He re-
commended that the Planning Commission's decision be upheld.
Mayor Tury stated that he felt about the same as Councilman
Imperial. He felt that there were alternatives to the problem.
He felt that it would be poor planning to give occupancy permits
and building permits where there is a lack of parking and.there
are traffic problems. He stated that it is difficult to tell a
church that they cannot expand; however, they have to realize
that they have a duty to the.community to live within the rules
that everyone else has to live within too.
Councilman Taylor suggested that if this:item was brought
back,fees could be waived.after a cooling off period, after
the property next door has made a.decision whether to sell or
not. He felt that if this was approved tonight, it would then
be a dead issue. There would be no need to bring it back to the
City Council or even to acquire the property next door. Ile felt
that at this point there is a business transaction that is still
going on between the Church and the property next door. He com-
mended the First American Bank for trying to help. He felt that
this issue should be deferred to see what transpires and Council-
man Imperial's recommendation of alternate services is used by
many churches. He stated that when he had asked Mrs. Roth if
there were any specific damages to the church if this was not
approved, and none was given to the Council. He felt that either
deferring action or upholding the Planning Commissions decision
would be appropriate. CM 9-10-85 Page N3
Mayor Tury recommended that the Planning Commission's
decision be upheld and the fees be waived on a reapplication
at such time that the church has the appropriate parking.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that the motion would
be to uphold the decision of the Planning Commission, deny the
Conditional Use Permit without prejudice to a future application
at such time that there is a change in circumstances and further
in the event that.there is such a reapplication, that it be with-
out fee.
Mayor Tury inquired if that was alright with Councilman
Imperial.
Councilman Imperial agreed.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY MAYOR TURY that
the Planning Commission's decision be upheld, the Conditional
Use Permit be denied without prejudice to a future application
at such time there is a change in circumstances and further,in
the event that there is such a reapplication, that it be without
fee. Vote resulted:
.AYES: Councilmen Cleveland, Imperial, Taylor and Mayor Tury
NAYES: Councilman Bruesch
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
Councilman Imperial stated that he was sorry and hoped that
the Church members understood the Council's position, and he under-
stood theirs, and wished God's blessing on them.
Councilman Taylor stated that as far as he was concerned
if this comes back, whether it is in 4 months or 6 months, his
main objective was to allow the church the opportunity to ac-
quire that property in a cooling off period. He felt that right
now leverage is being lost and the City no longer has control
over it and hopefully, it will work out where the church can
acquire that property at a reasonable price.
Councilman Bruesch requested that the record show that his
"no" vote on the issue was due to the fact that he realized
that this move from the old site to the new site is not something
that you come upon very quickly. Most likely the idea was to
have a larger congregation up there in the first place and he
just could not see preventing the needed expansion at this time
due to the parking problem.
Mayor Tury stated that he felt very strongly that this is
a problem that can be resolved by alternating services or by
acquiring parking, and he agreed with what Councilman Taylor
stated, that if expansion was allowed without the parking there
would be no real need to acquire the parking at a later date.
He hoped that the church members understood that, and he hoped
that they would return shortly with a resolution to their pro-
blem.
B. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPEAL TO PLANNING COMMISSION'S
DECISION TO ESTABLISH A CHURCH AT 3015-3021 SULLIVAN AVENUE.
Mayor Tury stated the the
quired if there was anyone in
regarding this matter.
Tom Matlok, Architect and
on behalf of the Chinese Hope
felt that they had developed
of the Code of the City.
public hearing was now open and in-
the audience who would care to speak
Builder, 502 W. Holt, Pomona, spoke
Baptist Church and stated that they
i plan that met with the requirements
Mayor Tury inquired if he was correct in that both houses
would remain and be used as offices and classrooms and the storage
shed in the back would be removed, and then the big garage would
be expanded as the sanctuary.
Mr. Matlok stated that was correct. CM 9-10-85
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Doris Karns, 9047 Garvey Avenue, spoke against the establish-
ment of a church at 3015-3021 Sullivan and felt that it was not
compatible with the neighborhood and felt that Sullivan was too
narrow and the additional traffic would cause further problems.
Elizabeth Houchen, 3027 N. Sullivan, stated that the state-
ment made by Mrs. Karns was the opinion of most of the residents
of that area of Rosemead. She also felt that there was no room
for more cars traveling on Sullivan trying to get on Garvey Ave.
Charles Hanna, 3021 Sullivan, owner of the property, stated he
was running a business from that site, and felt that he was very
familiar with the area and stated that most the traffic that is
a problem is during the week and he felt that with a church the
major activity would be on Sundays and possibly in the evening
during the week. He did not feel that it would add to the traf-
fic problem because of the timing. He stated that there is ade-
quate on-site parking to meet the code requirements.
Warren Davis, 3026 Sullivan, stated that the street was too
narrow and with cars parked on each side, a.car would have diffi-
culty in manuevering if a child was to get in the way.
Dean Jong, 3034 and 3036 Sullivan, stated that because there
are so many cul-de-sac streets in the area many of the residents have
to use :Sullivan to get to Garvey and it is over-crowded and the
traffic is bad.
Ruth Wright, 3107 Sullivan, commented on the 25 parking spaces
that have been allocated for the Church on-site and that is consi-
dered adequate with five people to a car; however, she felt that
it would be most unusual to have five people to a car and.therefore
those spaces would be far from adequate. She felt that even on
Sunday there was much too much traffic on Sullivan already.
Mayor Tury inquired if there was anyone else who would care
to speak regarding this matter. No one came forward and the Public
Hearing was closed.
Mayor Tury stated that he has lived in that area all of his
life, and he added that the La Victoria Trucks also use Sullivan
and the alley during the week and the overflow from the Fantasy
Restaurant on Friday and Saturday nights are on those streets. He
stated that the only day that those residents in that area have
is Sunday that is somewhat tranquil, and he urged that the Council
turn down the establishment of this church so that a bad situation
is not made worse.
Councilman Imperial agreed with Mayor Tury's statement and
felt that the Council is obligated to the well-being and emotional
health of the residents of Rosemead. He did not feel that Sullivan
was not the proper place to put a church.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY MAYOR TURY that
the appeal to the Planning Commissions decision be upheld and that
the establishment of a church on Sullivan Street be denied. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Tury requested that list of signatures presented by
Doris Karns be made part of the record and be placed in the
Minutes.
These signatures are on the following pages:
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III. LEGISLATIVE
A. RESOLUTION NO. 85-40
Councilman Bruesch inquired about the CDBG List and did
not see any improvements made at some of the sites. He thought
that Commercial/Residential Rebate Program was to spruce up and
refurbish the building, and he has not seen that at 8604 Garvey,
Leonard's Liquor.
Mayor Tury stated that the parking lot and the landscaping
have been improved.
Councilman Bruesch requested that the record show that he
is in favor of the program as long as it improves the appearance
of that business sector down there, and he hoped that parking
lots would not be the only improvements. He felt that that was
needed; however, not as necessary as facade improvements.
Jim Guerra stated that initially the improvements were for
parking lots only; however, most of those in progress now do in-
clude some form of facade improvement.
Councilman Taylor agreed with Councilman Bruesch's statement
in that the parking lot improvement would be rated 207 and the
building improvement the remaining.80%. He inquired what percentage
of the cost of the improvements are rebated to the owners.
Jim Guerra stated 50% is rebated, for up to $30,000 of property
improvement. This would allow up to $15,000 for the rebate.
Mayor Tury stated that he would prefer improvement on the
building facades; however, if the owner feels that the parking
lot is their major concern at this point and that this would help
them to improve the facade at a later date and the City could en-
courage that.
John Carmona, Planning Director, stated that he was part of
the committee that reviews these sites. He commented that Leonard's
Liquor added landscaping to the parking lot improvement and is now
in the process of being reviewed for painting the entire building,
and improvements to the appearance of the building. He stated that
if all the things that are being discussed are done, there should
be a dramatic change seen. He stated that the rebate program is
to entice investment in their property.
Councilman Imperial stated that he felt that if someone
comes in to improve a parking lot, there should be some effort
made to get the owner to improve other things also. He felt that
was not the intent of this rebate program.
Mayor Tury stated that a study session should be set up re-
garding what has transpired in the program and what direction it
is taking.
Councilman Taylor requested that along with the information
requested by the Mayor, he wanted to have a comparison made as
far as the Handyman program and the Commercial/Residential Rebate
Program on the eligibility requirements. He felt that there was
a big disparity in the requirements between the two program.
Jim Guerra stated that the only requirement was that the
business be within the target zone, and there is no requirement
of age or income as in the Handyman program.
.Mayor Tury stated that this rebate program was to entice
the absentee landlord into fixing up his property for the bene-
fit of the entire City. He added that a"Study Session should
be set to study the facts and the Council's concerns can be ex-
pressed at that time.
Councilman Bruesch inquired about 614831 and asked if the
welding, done was on the boxes of recreational material, and in-
quired if they had been vandalized. CM 9-10-85 Pg.#17
Michael Burbank stated that they were recreation boxes and
one was a broken door lock.
The following Resolution No. 85-40 was presented for approval:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-40
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $207,230.73
NUMBERED 9541, 9543-9555, 14818 THROUGH 14915 INCLUSIVELY
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that Resolution No. 85-40 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Taylor requested that the record show that he
still has opposition to the rebate program and he felt that the
Mayor's idea of having another Study Session is an excellent one.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR (CC-E Deferred)
CC-A ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD DEED/RIVER, STINGLE, FERN STREET
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
CC-B ACCEPTANCE OF WHITMORE (NEW-JACKSON) STREET IMPROVE-
MENT PROJECT
CC-C CITY CLERK'S REQUEST FOR VACATION
CC-D ENGINEERING PROPOSAL FOR BENTEL (ROSEMEAD-IVAR) PHASE #1
CC-F AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE VEHICLES FOR PARKING CONTROL
PROGRAM
CC-G AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND CCCA FALL SEMINAR, OCTOBER 18-20,
1985
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the foregoing items on the Consent calendar be approved. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-E ENGINEERING PROPOSAL FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE DESIGN/
WILLIAMS SCHOOL
Councilman Bruesch stated that he could probably see that a
flashing light and sign could cost $12,000; however, could not see
why the engineering portion should cost $2500. He stated that
he.was in favor of the sign and he felt that a traffic control
device was needed there, but he did not feel that the engineering
alone should be so expensive.
Ed Cline, Traffic Engineer, stated that although this is a low
cost project, it would still require a certain amount of investi-
gation, administration, and inspection for this project.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVE-
LAND that the engineering proposal for traffic control device
design at William School be approved. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Councilman Taylor stated that he shared some of the concerns
that Councilman Bruesch had.
V. STATUS REPORT
A. WHITMORE ALLEY VACATION ENGINEERING PROPOSAL
Mayor Tury stated that until the High School site has been
decided that the Whitmore Alley.vacation should be deferred.
There being no objection, it was so ordered. CM 9-10-85
Page #18
VI, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Ruth Albert, 8744 Scott Street, stated that she and Jim
Guerra have straightened out a few things. However, at this
time she wanted to talk about Congressman Matthew Martinez who
has taken time to do something for her and also John Hernandez
from his office. She also appreciated John Steelesmith's efforts
on her behalf and she stated that he had done his best to be of
help to her. She requested that a letter be written to them.
Mayor Tury stated that he would write a letter to Congress-
man Martinez and straighten out the situation, and would express
Ms. Albert's appreciation to him. He stated that he sees John
Steelesmith a lot and he would just tell him what a nice guy he
is.
Harry Rimbaugh, 3422 N. Earle, stated that he had noticed
some things that need cleaning up. He has seen a car parked on
a lawn at 3309 Stallo all day.
Mayor Tury stated that sometime next month, the City would
have their own parking control officers and the coverage should
be much better.
Mr. Rimbaugh stated that there are two cars with expired.
licenses that are parked at 8267 Artson, at the rear of 3368
Angelus they are using orange crates and pallets as a fence,and
at 3403 Earle it is an unsightly mess.
Mayor.Tury stated that the property owned by Mr. Dixon at
3403 should be checked out again by the Rehabilitation Inspector.
for additional violations.
Mr. Rimbaugh stated that at the end of Delta where it runs
into Earle there are six trash cans that are always there, and
are never removed.
Mayor Tury stated that he appreciated these matters being
brought to the City's attention, and requested a copy of the
list and would see to it that these problems are taken care of.
VII. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Councilman Bruesch stated that there has been an increase
in truck traffic at the nursery at Wells Street late at night, and
requested that staff check this out.
B. Councilman Bruesch stated that there is a house just
south of Wells and Walnut Grove, and food is being stored there
for a market and a large amount of food is being hauled out late
at night.
C. Councilman Bruesch stated that he had attended at the
Garvey School Auditorium a program called "Safe Child". He stated
that Deputy Baltazar commented that the Sheriff's Department has
available a series of three films on child abuse and.ways to pre-
vent it, and when he was asked about getting it for the Rosemead
area, he was told that it would take months or a year because of
the demand throughout the County for it. Councilman Bruesch in-
quired if money could be expended to get.copies of the films to
be shown by Deputy Baltazar to community groups.
Mayor Tury stated that Councilman Bruesch should prepare a
written proposal and it would be handled without any problems.
C. Councilman Taylor commented on the daily Dial-a-Ride
Reporting System. He stated that it was similar to those re-
ceived in the past, and would like to have a copy of the daily
reports.
Mayor Tury directed the staff to prepare a daily report like the
one Councilman Taylor has if the Dial-A-Ride Company cannot do
it.
CM 9-10-85
Page #19
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D. Councilman Imperial requested an update on the Cal Trans
Yard by the next Council Meeting.
E. Mayor Tury stated that he had met with a member of the State
Allocation Board, and stated that a memo had been written regard-
ing this matter; and he would be happy to respond to any one on
a one on one basis. He also stated that he had two conversa-
tions with two members of the Garvey School Board today, and they
both said that they would like to meet again and talk about the
Fern School and a few of the other problems that are arising.
Mayor Tury requested the Council's permission to write to John
Nunez, President of the Board, and ask if he feels a meeting would
be beneficial to both parties and if so a joint meeting will be
set up.
Councilman Taylor stated that he has not seen a response
from them and he agreed with Mayor Tury that a letter should be
written to the Garvey School Board and that their response should
be put in writing.
Robert Kress, City_Attorney, stated that a counter-proposal
has been prepared and he.felt that the Council should study. it and
become familiar with what at least the staff feels is important
before the.joint meeting is held.
F. Mayor Tury inquired about the Commercial Rehabilitation re-
garding the Randolph Glass Company, and stated that there was sup-
posed to be a drainage plan drawn up on that before much'nior.e
work is done, and he was curious about that.
Jim Guerra stated that the project is on hold, waiting for
the drainage study.
Mayor Tury stated that he would appreciate a memorandum re-
garding the status on that project.
There being no further business to handle the Council Meeting
was adjourned to the next regular meeting on September 24, 1985 at
8:00 p. M.
Respectfully submitted:
Ci Clerk
APPROVED: /
MAYOR
CM 9-10-85
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