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DATE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 24, 1984 AT 8:00 P. M.
The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called
to order by Mayor Cleveland at 8:05 p. m., in the Council Chambers
of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the Flag was led by Councilman Tury.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend John Juedes.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Cichy, Imperial, Taylor, Tury and
Mayor Cleveland.
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: JANUARY 10, 1984 - REGULAR MEETING
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the Minutes of the Council Meeting of January 10, 1984 be
approved. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Cleveland presented a Resolution of Commendation to
the City Treasurer, Hugh Foutz, on the occassion of his retire-
ment as Senior Chief Yeoman of the United States Naval Reserve
following 39 years of naval service. Mayor Cleveland extended,
on behalf of the entire City Council, warmest regards and con-
gratulations to Hugh and his wife, Burma on this occassion.
Photographs were taken of Hugh, Burma, and his son with
the City Council.
Hugh Foutz, City Treasurer, expressed his appreciation to
the Mayor for attending his retirement ceremony in San Diego,
and stated that it was a very special day for him since his four
past commanding officers were there and it was a great day.
Mayor Cleveland presented Roy Bergesen, area manager for
Southern California Edison Company, with a Resolution of Commenda-
tion for serving the Rosemead community by serving as Director of
the Rosemead Chamber of Commerce, Board and President of the Rose-
mead Kiwaniis and has been instrumental in facilitating the up-
coming construction of the new Zapopan Community Center by secur-
ing the necessary agreements with the Edison Company. Mayor Cleve-
land, on behalf of the City Council, extended congratulations to
Roy Bergesen on this honorable occassion.
Photographs of Roy Bergesen were taken with the City Council.
Roy Bergesen stated that it has been a pleasure to be involved
with the City of Rosemead for these past years and expressed his
appreciation to the City Council, and thanked Frank G. Tripepi, City
Manager and all the staff for all the support and help that has been
given. He introduced John Steelsmith, who will represent Edison at
City Council Meetings.
John Steelsmith, new area manager, expressed his appreciation
to the Council and stated that he would try his best to fill Roy
Bergesen's shoes and that he looked forward to working with the
Council and the City Manager and his staff.
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I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Robert Bruesch, 3126 Isabel, spoke on behalf of Richard
Mustoe, who was too ill to attend the Council Meeting. Mr. Bruesch
read a letter written by Mr. Mustoe in regards to a 7-11 Store
which is trying to open directly across from St. Anthony's Church
and a few feet from their school. He stated in the letter that
they have also applied for a liquor license which had been denied
by the ABC, however, there will be a public hearing to protest the
decision of the ABC on February 7th at 9:00 a.m. in the San Gabriel
City Council Chambers, 532 West Mission, in San Gabriel. In his
letter he requested the assistance of the Rosemead City Council by
sending an official delegate to the public hearing to request that
the appeal to the decision be denied.
B. Mayor Cleveland introduced Mr. Carrillo, field represen-
tative of Congressman Marty Martinez, to the audience and welcomed
him to the Meeting.
C. Don Henderson, 2200 San Gabriel Blvd., stated that he
was the owner of a small business on the corner of Graves and
San Gabriel Blvd., and that he had received a letter from the
City of Rosemead telling him that his business sign was in viola-
tion of the City's sign ordinance. He felt that the ordinance
should be changed to accommodate the small businesses that are
in the City.
Councilman Tury suggested that Mr. Henderson meet with the
staff and see what the problems are and possibly work them out.
Don Henderson stated that there is still a problem with the
corner of Graves and San Gabriel with the children crossing the
street without the benefit of a signal.
Councilman Tury stated that the Schools were not in favor
of moving the signals.
III. LEGISLATIVE
A. RESOLUTION NO. 84-4 ESTABLISHING POLLING PLACES AND
APPOINTING ELECTION OFFICERS FOR THE APRIL 10, 1984
ELECTION
The following Resolution was presented for adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 84-4
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD,
CALIFORNIA ESTABLISHING VOTING PRECINCTS & POLLING PLACES
APPOINTING PRECINCT BOARD MEMBERS & FIXING COMPENSATION
FOR GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION OF THE CITY ON TUESDAY,
APRIL 10, 1984, CALLED BY RESOLUTION NO. 83-57.OF THE
CITY COUNCIL
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that Resolution No. 84-4 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
B. RESOLUTION NO. 84-5 ORDERING CANVASS OF APRIL 10, 1984
MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE MADE BY CITY CLERK
The following Resolution was presented for adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 84-5
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ORDERING THE CANVASS OF THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION
TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL 10, 1984, TO BE MADE BY THE
CITY CLERK
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that Resolution No. 84-5 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
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C. RESOLUTION NO. 84-6 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS
RESOLUTION NO. 84-6
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD ALLOWING
CERTAIN CLAIMS & DEMANDS IN THE SUM $331,761.95 NUMBERED
8786-8806/8384 THROUGH 8453 EXCEPT FOR NOS. 8417, 8420,
8437, 8438, 8440 and 8442 WHICH WERE VOIDED.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that Resolution No. 84-6 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
D. RESOLUTION NO. 84-7 - APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT #42946
AT 3416-3426 MUSCATEL AVENUE
RESOLUTION NO. 84-7
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
GRANTING CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
#42946 (ONE LOT SUBDIVISION INTO FIVE SEPARATE PARCELS)
LOCATED AT 3416-3426 MUSCATEL
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that Resolution No. 84-7 be adopted. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
E. RESOLUTION NO. 84-8 - APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT #42930
AT 3127 MUSCATEL AVENUE
Councilman Taylor inquired about the parking situation of
this tract and commented that on the previous tract, parking
violators could be cited. He requested that.the same parking
condition be placed on this Resolution as an additional condition.
Councilman.Imperial stated that he felt that this project
has taken too long to get to this point, and that there has been
some hardship put upon the neighbors, specifically in the rear
of the project, where the street had been torn up and dust that
was flying during the summer months. He felt that this project
should be consistently monitored as far as the progress being
made and problems created in the area.
The following Resolution was presented for adoption as
amended.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-8
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
GRANTING CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
#42930 (ONE LOT SUBDIVISION INTO SIX SEPARATE PARCELS)
AT 3127 MUSCATEL AVENUE
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that Resolution No. 84-8 be adopted as amended. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
F. RESOLUTION NO. 84-9 EXPRESSING COUNCIL'S INTENTION
TO VACATE A PUBLIC STREET (NORWOOD PLACE)
Councilman Taylor stated that since this property is similar
in size to the other properties on that street, and he inquired if
it would be possible to sell that lot as surplus property.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, suggested that this matter be
deferred to the next meeting and a report will be prepared regard-
ing the legality of such a suggestion.
Mayor Cleveland inquired if there were any objections to
deferring this item. There were none, and it was so ordered.
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G. RESOLUTION NO. 84-10 - COMMERCIAL REVITALIZATION
NEEDS ASSESSMENT
Councilman Taylor stated that he did not feel that the report
justifies the intent of declaring this area subject to the Community
Development Commission of the County of Los Angeles and states that
there are conditions of underutilized, blighted, and slums, and yet
it is reported that the buildings are in fair and good condition.
He stated that he could not support this program.
Councilman Tury stated that he felt that if there were seven
poor buildings and the owners of the 19 good buildings are asking
for some assistance to up-grade the whole area, it is the City's
obligation to help them if there is a way. He felt that this pro-
gram is a way of helping them, and he supports the program.
Councilman Cichy stated that the photographs depict the pro-
blems in the area and the future problems that will be faced with
the new mall coming in and the revitalization of Montgomery Wards.
He felt that. this would be one way to try and assist the major
streets which have commercial areas to up-grade. He stated that
there is a problem and there will be a future problem and this
is one way to address it.
Councilman Taylor stated that he doesn't disagree with the
intent of the Council, and as far as cleaning up some of the pro-
perty shown here he agrees with, which is run down parking lots,
open trash bins in the back of these properties, however, he
felt that some of these problems belong in the Code Enforcement
Department. He stated that in the Rehabilitation Appeals Board
Meeting, the Board tells people to clean up there property at
their own expense, shuttYng off utilities, condemning properties &
demolishing buildings throughout the entire City,where ever this
conditions are found. He commented that here there are very
similar conditions, dilapidated buildings, open and exposed trash
areas, and now Federal Grants and benefits would be given to these
businesses, and then turn around and tell the residents that they
have to clean up their property and that they have to pay for it.
Many of these property owners are millionaires, and once it is
found out who owns these properties, it will be discovered that
they have great substantial wealth. He felt that there was great
disparity in this program and he stated that he could not vote for
it.
The following Resolution was presented for adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 84-10
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
APPROVING THE COMMERCIAL REVITALIZATION NEEDS ASSESSMENT
FOR THE VALLEY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR AND ESTABLISHING THE
VALLEY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR AS A TARGET AREA FOR THE COM-
MUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that Resolution No. 84-10 be adopted. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Cichy, Tury, Imperial and Mayor Cleveland
NAYES: Councilman Taylor
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
Councilman Imperial stated on the question regarding the
way this report was written, he might not be too happy in some
areas the way it was written, but he had to realize the full
intent of this. He stated that in figure 9, he had made a
complaint to try to get the property owner to fix it because
cars were losing control and he had seen an elderly lady trip
in there. He had sent two letters to the property owner and
he replied in a very diplomatic way to go to hell. He felt for
the public health and safety, the betterment of the City,.so
that this is not a run-down shanty town on the main boulevard.
Regardless of whether he agrees with a word here or there, it is
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Councilman Imperial added that if the City could find ways
to help an elderly gentlemen on a fixed income.to clean up his
property so that it cannot be demolished, he would have no pro-
blems with that. He felt that some research should be done on
that. If that program is not available, the elected officials
should be notified that there is a need for that kind of program.
He stated that there is a program available for revitalization
for businesses and that is the reason he can support it whole-
heartedly.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR(CC-F and CC-G Deferred)
CC-A AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR GRAND AND EARLE
CC-B APPROVAL OF SANITARY SEWER AND RELEASE OF BONDS FOR
TRACT #37061--1128 WALNUT GROVE
CC-C RAMONA BOULEVARD PARKING RESTRICTIONS
CC-D APPROVAL OF PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS FOR STRATHMORE
(GRAVES/GARVEY) AND AUTHORIZATION TO SEEK BIDS
CC-E CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY ON BEHALF OF BROWN, MUNOZ, AKRAWI,
WILLIAMS, WILDER & MARTINEZ
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the foregoing items on the Consent Calendar be approved. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS.PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-F APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL REVITALIZATION PROGRAM DESIGN
GUIDELINES
Councilman Taylor stated that he didn't really have any ob-
jection to the guidelines as far as showing the Chamber and the
Business people the intent of the development and he felt that
it was a good idea to try to encourage them to do it themselves,
however, he again has reservations about the money that will be
invested. That was the reason that he had requested that this
item be removed from the Consent Calendar.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY,.SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that the Design Manual for Commercial Revitalizaton be approved.
Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Cichy, Imperial, Tury and Mayor Cleveland
NAYES: Councilman Taylor
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
CC-G APPROVAL OF PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS FOR DELTA & WELLS
STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS & AUTHORIZATION TO
SEEK BIDS
Councilman Taylor stated that this item has been discussed
in the past and he intended to vote "no" on this and that was
the reason he removed it from the Consent Calendar.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CICHY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the Plans and. Specifications for Delta and Wells Street
and Drainage Improvements and authorization to seek bids be
approved. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Cichy, Imperial, Tury and Mayor Cleveland
NAYES: Councilman Taylor
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
Councilman Tury stated that he could agree with Councilman
Taylor's sentiments on this item, however, the problem does exist
and will not go away by itself. Since Edison has agreed to pay
a portion of that drain, he could support it with that understanding.
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Councilman Taylor stated that he felt sure that every member
on this Council is supportive of the street improvement that are
going in completing the curb.and gutter. He stated that his vote
was primarily against the discharge of the pesticides and fertilizers
into the drainage channels.
Councilman Tury stated that this would take it off the street
and into the disposal channel.
V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION
A. MODERN SERVICE AGREEMENT
Taylor: I think that there is still a lot of discussion to be had
on it. This particular meeting, I believe we have an adjournment
to next Tuesday night to continue this item. I feel that there is
still information that I am missing in the sense that I would like
a copy of the existing contract with the amendments. That is really
no ones fault as far as staff is concerned. I've read the proposed
contract. Actually both, the last one we had in 1981 and the one
that is current for this month or this time around. There has been
items that have been added in that were not discussed. I think
that we are going to have to have some clarification on those. I
need some more information and if we have that meeting by next
Tuesday, we can still go ahead with that, but I still need those
amendments.
Tury: Mr. Mayor, there are still a few things I would like to
bring up that I was not expecting. I would like to start on
page 14.
Taylor: Is that the
Tury: On the proposed contract-on the new one, Gary.
Taylor: 84
ry Tury: Right. I bring your attention to the first paragraph
having to do with the barrel service, it was my understanding
and I would like to have the Council's understanding, cause
maybe I was wrong, that we were going to set up a mechanism
to have barrel service where it is physically impossible to
have a bin. The way this reads, we are setting up two classes
of customers. Ones that can and ones that can't. As there is
a list on the back, that lists addresses and names of businesses
that will be allowed to continue to use barrels. As those busi-
nesses close, the new owner will not be allowed to use barrels.
I think that ...I felt as though we had agreed and that Mr. Griegorian
had agreed or his attorney had agreed to come up with some sort of
a barrel provision excluding those already on bins that could be
enacted and allow some of the people who cannot take a bin to use
a couple of barrels or who don't need a bin to take a couple of
barrels.
The next paragraph, I think that's (d) it says: Upon request
of a commercial customer, Contractor shall, during the full term
of this Agreement, be obligated to provide to each such customer
a three (3) cubic yard container (but no other container of any
kind) and maintain same, and pick up, gather and remove rubbish,
combustible and non-combustible materials. Upon request of a
commercial customer..I would like that clarified by the next
meeting. Go to the next page 15...the last sentence in the first
paragraph is an addition that was not in the old contract. It is
the intention of the parties that all commericial locations in
the City shall be on service except as expressly excluded herein.
Once again we have established two tiers of clientele. Those who
have to take service and those that don't have to take service.
On page 16, the last sentence in the first paragraph-which
,51 refers to page 17 it says: Charges for regular household services
and charges for regular commercial services ...o.k. and person re-
questing special collection service. There is no means of arbi-
tration for special collection service. In the old contract, it
allowed the City Manager to arbitrate that, that disagreement.
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Taylor: Mr. Mayor, Lou not to interrupt you, but it went a little
further than that. The old contract stated that the rates shall
be published and I agree that to be, as it states here, reasonable
rates that may be agreed upon by Contractor and the person request-
ing - that's a wide open contract.
Tury: Leaves no option for anyone, Gary. I think that section
has to be cleaned up and have an unbiased arbitrator. The City
Manager was just fine as far as I was concerned, and have those
rates also listed. I thought that section of the contract was to
the residents benefit and should be back in there.
Taylor: I wonder, Lou, to me its a strong burden to put on the
City Manager to evaluate individual cases. Publish lists up front.
Everybody knows where they stand. The rubbish contractor can go
to the person and say, you want a trash dumpster. Keep in mind
the gentleman that was here four months ago and said that he called
in three people and got three bids and Modern was high and he could
not take the low bid.
Tury: I can agree with that Gary, we do have an exclusive Contract
though, and we have to work within that framework as far as I under-
stand it.
Taylor: But there again, it is kind of contradictory, what we are
saying that residents have no options and we can get...there are
contracting firms available on this type of thing where the resi-
dents know that they can get it done cheaper, but like it or not
they are forced to take that higher price and now is the time we
have got to get it resolved. By having a list, it makes it clear
up front to everybody that reads it. The City Manager isn't put
on'the spot. The Council is,not on the spot. The Contractor is
not on the spot. It is clear right away.
Tury: That's fine. A fee list would be just fine with me.
Taylor: We have some advantage because we can find out what the
rates are with other cities, and try to get that fee down where
its reasonable.
Tury: I think in this agreement, we have to have something address-
ing that particular problem. That was my point. That was taken
out of the existing contract.
Taylor: I didn't mean to interrupt you.
I Tury: That's o.k. Gary. I'm hoping you guys will have more ques-
tions than I do. Let's go on to page 17 in the last paragraph (h).
Once again it sets up two classes of commercial industrial customers.
Ones that are allowed to have barrels and not, and then.very clearly
at the end it says, barrel service shall no longer be available to
the new occupants and the new occupants shall be subject to the
terms and conditions of the agreement as it generally applies to
commericial, business and industrial customers. Once again, correct
me if I'm wrong, I think we had basically agreed with the contractor
to set up some kind of a barrel service. Next, page 18, the first
paragraph, this allows people sharing bins i.e., the shopping center
across.the street and similar items to continue to share a bin making
no provisions for the new developments in town. It is my reading
of this contract as it is written, that anything new, if they were
to build a new Universal Square down the street, that at that point
and time, that each and every customer would have to have a bin.
I don't think that was the intent of the contractor or the Council.
Bin sharing under single ownership, I thought was something that we
had pretty well agreed to. Third paragraph down, where it relates
to the Palasear dump, that was the first increase. This coming up
year included the dump fees, and that should pick up in 1985. From
1985 on forward.
I have a couple more here but that was really the heart of what
I had and what my misunderstanding of our agreements were, and another
thing too, I would like to go back to page 29. As long as we are
going to bring up little things ...this is a small item..I am just
bringing it up. Page 29, Item 8. Late Charges.
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7 Tury: It allows billing late charges for billings 15 days old.
I don't know what businesses around isn't tickled to death to
get it in 30 days, and it seems to me to allow late charges
after 15 days, seems a little bit short. I think that should
be extended to some reasonable time.
Kress: It is actually 45 days.
Tury: It is 15 days after the service is rendered.
Kress: It is 45 days after the bill is sent.
Tury: It is 15 days after the service is rendered. Anyhow, that
is an area of conjecture that we can kick around.
Taylor: Lou, what you were just referring to. Mr. Kress made
the comment, 45 days after the billing. Keep in mind that all
these services are billed three months and one week in advance.
I notice that my bill that I receive is postmarked usually one
week ahead of three months so that when you do get that bill,
you are paying three months in advance. Which is the only firm
that I know of, Gas Co., Phone Co., Electric Co., Water, none
of them are paid in advance. So there is a tremendous advantage
when the money is up front. If you don't pay for it in 45 days,
and your bill is delinquent, is that bill for a three month
period or for the 45 days service or the first month out of the
three. How is it actually to be delinquent?
Kress: The first month only.would be delinquent, Sir.
Taylor: O.K.
Tury: After 15 days the second month would be delinquent after
that month. One other item and it is not the contract itself.
Freezing the residential rates at $5.24 appears-to me to be a
little expensive for the first year as a base. I would propose
that we would allow the rates to go to $5.50 and the City pick
up the balance of $..50. That would be a $.26 increase to the
residents. A $.50 cost to the City and use that as a base to
compute the cost of the City subsidization of the rates from then
on. That's my only other comment that I have. Out of curiosity
I was looking at the rates charged for bins back in 1978 when this
contract was amended, and they were $7 and some cents and that has
escalated to $40 and I think that's something that we can't do
anything about. Those are the charges and I foresee no roll back
of charges, however, I think that the couple items that we are
asking for the business community are far outweighed by the price
of the service.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, in truthfullness, I have gotten to page 23 re-
viewing and I think it is a 31 page agreement or contract that we
are trying to get to here. I've got several questions. There are
more general here ...I think that one thing that needs to be revised
on this, on page 7, we are going back to the original bonding and
insurance that must.be carried on this contract. If everything
else has gone up similar to what Mr. Tury stated the cost of the
bins, the cost of the trucks and such. I think these figures are
way too low as far as the insurance coverage that is required for
that type of operation. I would like to see the 4th sentence up
from the bottom, it is a long sentence, it starts about ten lines
up. 'Contractor agrees at his own expense, to carry public liability
insurance during the full term of this.agreement, with a company
to be reasonably' approved by.the City Attorney, and with City also
named as an assured thereunder, covering liability for injuries or
deaths and property damage, arising out of or in connection with
the operations of the Contractor under this agreement, in an
amount not less than $500,000 for injuries.' I would like to see
that raised to $2,000,000, and that's the premium on the difference
of $500,000 to $2,000,000. 'including accidental death to any one
person, and subject to the same limit for each person, in an amount
not less $1,000,000 on account of one accident.' I feel that should
be raised to $2,000,000.. 'and property damage in an amount of not
less than $50,000.' I think that should be raised to $250,000.
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Taylor continues: One of those trucks alone from what I under-
stand, the truck is one thing, but they are close to $90,000 to
$100,000 just for the truck. The (j) paragraph half way down
that page, I think that $25,000 should be changed to $250,000.
That is the surety bond rather the $25,000. Again when you figure
the revenue that comes in from one month from this contract, $25,000
isn't going to cover that at all. Here is one of the items that
I wanted to review in the other contract and maybe it is in here
already. Following subsection (k) and in front of (1) was a clause
pertaining to uniforms. Is that in this contract somewhere?
Kress: No, it was deleted and that was explained in the memo.
Taylor: O.K. I started reading through the contract page by page,
Bob, so if it is on your memo, I didn't cross check it as yet.
Kress: That was deleted by Mr. Andrews. I checked with the City
Manager and was informed the employees have not been required to
wear a uniform in this City for some time and employees of private
contractors in the industry are not wearing uniforms. That is on
page 2 of the January 20th memo.
Taylor: O.K. On page 10, Contractor shall report gross revenues
annually or from time to time as requested by the City. Have these
revenues been reported annually to the City in the past?
Kress: I believe they have. I have seen such reports in the
Finance Department as part of the distribution of the franchise
fee.
Taylor: I would like to see that qualified, Contractor shall re-
port gross revenues annually or from time to time as requested by
City. Are we going to get those automatically annually or as re-
quested.
Kress: Well, in the past we have gotten them monthly.
Taylor: Yes, it does call for that.
Kress: If you are requesting that, it is certainly not a problem
to add up the twelve months in a year a prepare an annual report
as well.
Taylor: Well, the way I read it, that is the way it should have
been. As far as both.
Kress: Alright, we can clarify that.
Taylor: Now, the last sentence or the second sentence from the
bottom of this page, there again it is a long one, in addition
to the foregoing monthly payments, Contractor agrees,,for the
duration of this agreement, to pay monthly to City a sum equal
to one percent of the monthly gross revenue received by the Con-
tractor from City or those enterprises hereinafter specified in
this paragraph, for the collection and removal of garbage, com-
bustible and non-combustible rubbish, miscellaneous debris or
combined rubbish from commercial and industrial enterprises in
the City including such areas that may be annexed to the City,
also including multiple unit resdiential facilities, that pur-
suant to their request receive 3 cubic yard bin service. This
is clarified... this goes back to a clarification where the owner
or the manager of a condominium project can request to go on to
this service?
Kress: Condominium or apartment, yes.
Taylor: O.K. The question there, how will the tenant be billed?
It states that household includes ...the definition of household
includes multiple housing.
Kress: It is an~or'definition, Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: O.K.
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Kress: And in practice,
the customer becomes the
billed, I would think, I
tractor, it would either
would be included in the
multi-family service is
•
in the case of a multiple dwelling,
landlord, and the tenants would be
know they are not billed by the Con-
be an additional amount of rental or
rent. The obligation in the case of
with the landlord.
Taylor: How are they billed right now for the 88 condominium
units?
Kress: I believe, I know we show one condominium unit as having
barrel service, and I'm not sure how that happened. But an 88 unit
condominium project that has been serviced, I assume, the homeowners
association would be receiving the bill and paying it.
Taylor: But it states in here under the householder provision,
the first unit is $6.00 and each additional unit is $4.50 does
that apply?
Kress: $5.40. With the option of the landlord to take at a
certain point, and I forget how many units that is, there is
certain point in.which it is more advantageous pricewise to
take the bin service than the barrel service, and so that is
why we have a couple of situations where we have left it either/
or at the option. Modern has agreed to write to these owners
and also speak with them about the possibility.
Taylor: I think that is an open end type of thing as far.as
how will the association, if they bill the condominium develop-
ment are they billing them individually at a separate rate or
are they billing an association?
Tury: I only know one person that lives in one of the condominiums
here in town, and it is just part of the association fees. The
association pays for the removal of trash.
Taylor: I don't know what they are being charged. That is what
I was curious about. If in fact, most condominium project don't
generate a lot of rubbish or debris, if they are being charged a
portion of a 3 yard bin. Especially if it is an older couple
that they don't have the yard work or a lot of disposable material.
If they are billing the $4.50 rate or at the bin rate. I don't
have that answer.
Tury: I don't think they have that.option. I think that the one
I know of is strictly enough to service the people and they are
billed the standard bin rate and I am willing to assume that the
association dues are standard for everybody within the tract.
However, we don't really set those fees.
Taylor: I think on page 13, let me read this part: For the pur-
poses of this paragraph,referring to complete service for multiple
units. Now, this is a condominium project to me, multiple units,
in the residential classification, charges for regular household
service and then it refers to multiple units, for the purposes of
this paragraph B.2(c) an apartment house or multiple dwelling or
a single parcel or constructed as one development, and a mobile
home or trailer park shall be deemed to be residential property .
consisting of a "first unit" and"additional units", and right above
there it states $6 per month and $5.40 per month.for each additional
unit, and going back to quote here, as hereinabove set forth; pro-
vided however, that the owner or proprietor of such apartment house,
multiple dwelling or mobile home or trailer park may elect to utilize
the commercial services and rates provided for.in B.2(e) and B.2(g)
in lieu of residential services and rates provided for in this
paragraph. Now, that would give them the option to go to the ser-
vice bin rate. That brings up another question. We grant the raise
for residential service as of January 1, 1984. On the previous page
it says: Charges for Regular Householder Services. Subject to
adjustment as herein provided, commencing January 1, 1984 and con-
tinuing thereafter during the term of this Agreement, Contractor
agrees to abide by the following monthly service charges. That's
January 1st, now on February 1st, if they opt to go to the commer-
cial rate, they get another raise.
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Kress: April 1st was that it? It wouldn't be another raise. It
would be a different service that would also have an increase in
price. It wouldn't be an increase on top of an increase.
Taylor: That's what I am hoping you would tell me,.but it states
here on page 17 second paragraph: Contractor shall be entitled to
a 6% increase in all prices on commericial services effective
April 1, 1984. :•:So on January 1 the rates go up for the household
service. On April 1 if they switch over to the commercial ser-
vice there will be a 6% increase on those commercial rates which
was what Mr. Tury referred to, $40 or so whatever it was. There
is going to be another 6% as of April 1st?
Kress: No, not another 6%. It's otherwise payable 7% increase.
If we don't do anything by the terms of the existing agreement
and the amendment thereto those prices will increase not by 6%,
but by 7% on April.lst.
Tury: I think, Gary, if you look at those rates, you will find
that those are the rates, I think you will find that those rates
are we are paying right now. Those are not new rates or any in-
crease in rates. Please correct me if I am wrong on that.
Kress: These are the existing rates.
Taylor: There is another date in here that refers to February 1st,
thirty days later. January 1st, February 1st and April 1st, and
I am sorry that I didn't mark it a little better.
Kress: I don't recall a February 1st date, but perhaps I'm wrong.
Taylor: Mr. Tury made comment about barrel service and trash bin
service. On page 16 it states that if a person cannot use barrels
and he must use a bin, and due to the nature of the property not
only is that.person charged for a bin, but it says forklift service
shall be provided at the rates shown in this section. There is
another cost that someone may not be aware of. If they are re-
quired to take a bin and they can't get it out, it says that they
shall be required to pay for that forklift service. There is
another section stating that the trash...Frank, do you still have
the photographs that we took several months ago, where there was
a waste paper basket that I had with are they in the file?
Would you get those please? I think the Council may recall what
that was. It was approximately a 8 inch wide kitchen wastepaper
basket, 8" X 12" or 14" and 20" high. I had.placed 6 or 8 common
brick. Rather than lay the brick individually on the parkway.
When Frank gets the pictures back, I would like to have you take
a look at those, and also there were a couple of other pictures
where I had removed a fence post. 'A small footing about 12" in
diameter and 2' deep. I broke that up into three pieces of con-
crete and that was the week prior to some of the other photographs
that Frank took. Small stuff. One of them weighed 45 pounds and
one of them weighed 55 pounds and one weighed 65 pounds. I set
out three pieces of concrete and Modern did not pick those up.
I would sympathize with any home owner throughout the City. Well,
he didn't pick it up and now I have to call a special pick-up.
That's what the contract states in.here now. It excludes pieces
of concrete, brick or sod or whatever construction materials.
Anything over 60 pounds.per week. Those three little chunks of
concrete, I couldn't have put those out. In the past, we had
excellent pick-up service and I am trying to figure out how that
got into the contract. That was never mentioned until about two
months ago, someone said they would like those items excluded, but
the Council never had that before that time. Yet it is in this
contract. Page 21, this is the clarification that was added in;
the last sentence or a portion of it it says: not to exceed 60
pounds in any one week period, unless placed in a three cubic yard
container, under special services. Well, I could put out my three
little pieces of concrete or my one waste basket of brick and pay
the $40 rate that Mr. Tury referred to in a three yard bin if I
so chose. How did that get into this contract? That was never
brought to the Council to my knowledge.
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Kress: Well, Councilman, at this point, this is a proposal. You
are correct. That is a contractor's proposal. This is in front
of you not for action tonight, but for comment.
Taylor: Let me ask you something Mr. Kress, not to interrupt.
You say that this is a contractors proposal. Who drew up this
proposal?
Kress: It was jointly drawn up by Mr. Andrews and myself, and I
believe that that was seeking to clarify the problem that you are
talking about. I understand that you see it as a limitation and
perhaps not.a good limitation on the right of the residents who
use the service. However, there has been problems,apparently,
and this was thought by the contractor as a clarification.
Taylor: I would like the Council to have some documentation show-
ing the numbers and photographs of the type of abuse that's why
Modern is asking for this. The photograph that I had Frank take,
I don't think there was the size of a pitcher, this pitcher of
C water right here. If that was a chunk of concrete, it would pro-
bably weigh about 45 pounds. To have to leave 3 pieces of con-
crete similar to that laying in the parkway and say, hey, that's
too heavy we are not taking that. Call for a bin pick-up. I
think it is ridiculus. It is not justified. He does have an
exclusive.franchise with the City. But if it is going to be that
restrictive There is another item here on the same page, page
21, this is something new as far as the discarded household
furniture, furnishings and appliances that are large or weighty.
The customer gives 24 hour notice to Contractor. In the past,
I have put out a dishwasher, or a dryer that has failed to keep
functioning. I think that needs to be clarified, and the 24 hour
notice is that prior to your pick-up day or is that at anytime
during the 7 day week period? It doesn't say. It just says 24
hour notice.
C\ Kress: I am assuming it can be more than 24 hour notice, but a
minimum of 24 hours.
Taylor: O.K. but is it on your pick-up day? Your normal day
when they are passing by.
Kress: I will get that point clarified.
Taylor: Explain that Frank, that you can't locate them at this
time.
Tripepi: I cannot locate them right at this time. They are pro-
bably back with the 1983 material that is being filed in the base-
ment for the close out of the 1983 year. I will state that those
are the photos that the Council saw on a previous occassion.
Mayor: Anything further?
Taylor: Not at this time, Mr. Mayor.
Tury; I think some valid questions have been asked. I think they
may be a matter of interpretation. Possibly,we can resolve some
of them by Tuesday night. I realize that there are
Cichy: I was just going to say that these particular questions,
while the minutes are being drafted, can we have an itemized
list by page number as expressed by the Council for our next
Agenda. Preferably as soon as possible.
Clerk: I will be preparing verbatim minutes on Modern Service.
Would that be adequate?
Cichy: Verbatim minutes would be...if you can extract them from
the rest of the minutes. We were talking about specific requests
on the different points of information. I am sure that Modern
probably wants a copy and Bob so that we can get down to discus-
sing these differences.
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Kress: I now.think that enough points have been raised, some
anticipated and some, quite frankly, not anticipated, that I
am not sure that a week is enough time. Mr. Andrews could not
be here tonight. He is involved in a trial. Certainly some of
these matters have to be raised with him so that we can address
them in a joint manner and present them to you. I would request
that we adjourn this meeting rather than to Tuesday, the 31st
of January, to Tuesday, February the 7th.
Taylor: That's three weeks to the next meeting, Bob?
Kress: Yes, there is three weeks to the next regular meeting.
The regular meeting is on the 14th. I think that we need some
time on this. I am afraid that this project to me is beginning
to look like the breaking up of ATT, but I know we can get it
done. I have taken notes on what Councilman Tury and Councilman
Taylor have raised. I think once I have Ellen's extraction of
those questions, we can address them with a memo to you.on some
of the why's and wherefor's, I am not sure, especially some of
the points that you raised Lou, you will be satisfied. But we
will give you an answer on each of those points.
Tury: All I want is an answer. Maybe I have misinterpreted what
I thought we had agreed to, and if I have so be it.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, Lou have you had a chance to review the verbatim
minutes? I know we have discussed it in there several times.
Tury: Gary, I feel very confident in that what I say is right.
Taylor: In those minutes we discussed the barrel option as far
as grandfathering in those that are existing. I know that was
discussed, and I can't recall if we were going to continue to
allow other businesses to take barrels later. I just don't re-
call that part.
Tury: I got a letter from Modern Service.
Taylor: While you are looking for that Lou, a clarification on
page 12 where the rates will be adjusted commencing January 1,
1984 and continuing thereafter during the term of this agreement.
On page 31 it states in the case of first residential units only
(not on commercial service) the City hereby agrees to pay, commenc-
ing February 1, 1984, the sum of $.76 per month, per single family
or other first residential unit, so that the.rate of the first
residential unit remains $5.24 to the customer but the contractors
total compensation will increase to a total of $6 per first unit.
The billings are all out for the first quarter of the year, as
far as January or February, so reinterpreting this as of January
1st the rates will be, the new rate $6 per month and $5.40 per
month. The City starts paying as of February 1st, 1984. That
was that date. It wasn't that there was going to be another in-
crease then.
Kress: That is unclear and the intention there, and I apologize
for the lack of clarity, but the intention is that the City's
obligation will not be a billing in advance. We will be paying
in the month of February,for an example for services rendered in
January. That can be clarified. That's how that works.
Taylor: O.K.
Tury: I found what I was looking for and if you
package of information, the last package that we
proposals and counterproposals. I am going back
Modern Service of April 25, 1983. It seems like
with this thing everything is a long time. Look
page, item 4.
will look in the
got, which is the
to a letter from
a long time, but
at the second
Taylor: Excuse me, Lou, is that the one that was delivered last
night?
Tury: Yes, it is the one that was delivered last night.
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Taylor: O.K..what page?
Tury: Look on a!proposal from Modern Service, May 9th, 1983.
It is right towards the back. It is the last thing in there
that came from Modern. May 9th, 1983.
Taylor:. What page?
Tury: That agreement page 2, item no. 4. and that was what I
was referring to.and that is what I thought we had agreed to.
The cost was something that was thrown out at that particular
point and time. I think that in general principle that they
did agree to establish.a barrel service for those customers
not currently on bin service.
Kress: Well, by way of explanation, Mr. Mayor and Council,
this is a very difficult problem within the Contract. What
that provision states is that everyone not on service with a
bin would pay 2/3 of a bin rate. We are talking about 2/3
of $40 and that is substantial. We talked about this, Frank
and I did at some length along with Mr. Andrews and the Con-
tractor, we finally quite frankly, threw up our hands and the
best thing we can do with this is to simply freeze the status
quo. That's the proposal entitled revised counterproposal
that we have bound in this very same document. That was what
you approved in the fall of 1983 and I would call your attention
to specifically paragraph 7 therein. Now that was our counter-
proposal to Modern which in fact did not include this 2/3 bin
rate. So that's what happened to that. It was before the
Council and if there was some misunderstanding then I again
apologize, but I think it was clearly in front of you and that
is how it happened.
Tury:. Well, if the Council feels that resolves the problem, fine.
I am not going to sit and argue about it, but it was not my under-
standing that it was in the revised counter-proposal.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Kress just made reference to item 7..Which
date is that item, Bob?
Kress: It appears directly after a letter on my letterhead to
Honorable Mayor and Council, July 22, 1983.
Taylor: O.K. What Mr. Tury was reading Item 4, it did state in
the next sentence that there proposal from Modern, that is to say,
this rate is limited to those customers who are not currently on
regular commercial rates as of April 1st, 1983. That is similar
to-what is in the Contract right now.because that is the way
Modern's Attorney put it in this time as he still wants it, and
it is up to this Council to whether we agree with it or not.
That is the grandfathering it in clause.
Kress: No, sir, I must take exception to that. I was able to
get Mr. Andrews to agree to leave the barrel rate at $15 which
you will agree is not 2/3 of $40.
Taylor: Agreed.
Kress: So he did not put it in his way.' I had him put into that
and my,imput was that the Council's wish on this whole matter was
to freeze the status quo. If I have misunderstood,then please tell
what it is that you want.
Taylor: Your understanding is that that would be the grandfathering
in the status quo.
Kress: $15 the current rate and 6% increase on that on April 1 of
each year.
Taylor: Only to existing businesses. All new businesses will come
in under the new bin rate.
Kress: That is the proposal that you have in front of you. I
think that we may have further negotiations on that point. I think
we will address that in a memo to the Council.
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Kress continues: It has been brought to my attention that perhaps
there is a better way to deal with that in transition. It is not
the intention of this proposed agreement to allow each new business
that comes into town to make a decision whether it wants barrel
service at $15 or bin service at $42. We have had bin service,
and we have had barrel service out of the contract for a long time
that's clear. The contractor has continued to provide barrel
service to a certain number of grandfathered, if you will for his
own business relations purposes account. We are trying to...
Councilman Tury is saying that we are creating two tiers of service
Well, yes we are. We are legitimizing what is taking place today.
So that we can keep track of it so that this contractural disputes
that we have had over the past several years will reoccur.
Tury: Similarly, Bob, in the bin sharing. Do you understand this
to mean, as I do, that from here on forever, any development that
comes into town, new, will be required to have individual bins for
business. Bin sharing will simply be out then except for these
few exceptions.
Kress: Well, as I told you, in the case of new development and
new construction, the Planning Commission has spent a lot of
time with this and looks very carefully at new development. I
know we have had in the past 6 months, we have had multiple
developments on a lot in which the contractor is brought into
the planning process. There is a discussion about what is the
best way for aesthetics, for the trash trucks to get into the
commercial development and all these matters. I am sure that
we can write a provision that allows for joint use with a single
ownership on a lot. There was never an intention to leave that
out. We can put that in.
Tury: That's great. I must admit although I disagree about a lot,
we are pretty close. After all these years it is a real victory.
I'll tell you that. I think you guys did a good job. Maybe my
understanding was somewhat different than yours. It is not your
fault. I told you on the phone today, you know, don't take it
personally, I like you and I hate to.get you mad. I think if
we resolve those, I think we will have an agreement.
Kress: At the risk of prolonging this, the ordinance. This is
an ordinance that has been utilized in other cities. You have
seen it before back in 1981. If we are going to do a deal based
upon this particular treatment of the delinquencies, we need that
ordinance. Now, what I would ask you to read it and the provi-
sions in that ordinance parallel article 9 of the Agreement.
They are basically the same. It is a good provision and I think
it gets the.City out of the delinquency business. We are not
going to have good residents paying for deadbeats anymore. I
think that has been problem for all of us ever since we got our-
selves into that. That is the best thing about getting this whole
matter settled. Is that those who use the service directly or
indirectly,at least the person who owns the property is going to
be ultimately responsible for those charges.
Tury: I think that's outstanding. I think that was what the
main thrust of this has been.
Mayor: We would have to adopt that ordinance tonight, wouldn't
we?
Kress: No, we apologize that this didn't get to you until Friday
evening and we didn't ask for any action tonight. Again I appre-
ciate the imput. We have a number of things to respond to, but I
really hope that we can take action to introduce the ordinance on
February 7th and very hopefully take action to approve the agree-
ment.
Clerk: What time would the meeting start on the 7th?
Kress: That would be up to the Council.
Imperial: 8:00 p. m.
Kress: February 7th at 8:00 p.m. for an adjourned regular meeting
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V. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Councilman Imperial requested that a Resolution of
Commendation be prepared for Helen Hasabeles, owner of T & J
Restaurant, who recently received the Rob Roy Award, an award
of excellence among restaurants.
B. Councilman Taylor stated that at the last meeting he
had requested an ordinance be prepared revising the City ordinance
pertaining to the residency of Councilmembers while they are on
the Council, and the City Attorney prepared a memo explaining to
the Council that the State Law already addresses itself to that.
Councilman Taylor again requested that the ordinance be prepared
with the inclusion of the state law supplementing our requirements
that a Councilmember must be a resident of the City in order to
file nomination papers for the Council. He inquired if there
was a problem incorporating that in the City's Ordinance?
Robert Kress, City Attorney stated that he did not find a
residency requirement in the present municipal code. He stated
that the Government Code is not usually restated again in the
Municipal Code. The Government Code in this situation would be
paramount. It deals specifically with the qualifications for
office and residency issues. It would not add anything to the
requirement of law.
Councilman Taylor inquired if it would be a violation
to put it in the City's Municipal Code?
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that it might be, since
we are pre-empted from acting differently.
Councilman Taylor stated that the Council could adopt any
ordinance that. would not-conflict with the State Code, that does not
supercede it in certain cases. Such as the Housing Code, Building
Code. We have many ordinance that supplement State Codes. He
requested that the City Attorney prepare a written memorandum and
bring it back to this Council stating that this cannot be put into
our Municipal Code.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he would be glad
to do it.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Ciro Sepulveda, 3120 N. Burton, stated that he felt that
Valley Boulevard was not as blighted as the Garvey corridor and
that's where the revitalization should be taking place.
Al Warot stated that the Garvey corridor and the San Gabriel
Boulevard have already been established as target areas for commer-
cial.rehabilitation purposes as they do lie in the established
Rosemead Redevelopment Area N1. That subject has been addressed
in prior action.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that the Garvey and
San Gabriel Blvd., corridors are already accepted by the Commission
of L. A. County as eligible for CDBG funds. The action which was
taken at this meeting, makes application to.that same commission
to ask them if they will consider Valley Blvd., and place it in
that same category so that CDBG Funds can be expended on Valley Blvd.
as it has been on Garvey and San Gabriel Blvd.
B. Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that an invitation
had been received for a tour of a number of law enforcement facili-
ties and if any member of the Council is interested in attending,
an appropriate schedule will be prepared.
There being no further business, the Council Meeting was ad-
journed to February 7, 1984 at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
APPROVED: / r~0j~yii~4"k~v
city Clerk
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