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ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION
APRIL 3, 2008
The meeting of the Rosemead Traffic Commission was called to order by Chairperson Knapp
at 7:00 p.m., in the Community Recreation Center, 3936 North Muscatel, Rosemead.
PLEDGE OF ALLIGIANCE Chairperson Knapp
INVOCATION Commissioner Lewin
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Knapp, Commissioner Masuda, Commissioner Gay,
Commissioner Lewin
Absent: Commissioner Hunter
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of March 6, 2008:
Commissioner Lewin noted that on the first page the meeting location should be
changed to Community Recreation Center, Room 8, 3936 North Muscatel, Rosemead.
Commissioner Masuda requested that on Page 6, 9 th paragraph, the word "are" be
changed to "as." Commissioner Lewin suggested that on page 6, 4' paragraph, the
word "develop" be changed to "consider." On page 9, 2 nd complete paragraph,
"Commission Lewin" should be changed to "Commissioner Lewin."
It was moved by Commissioner Masuda, seconded by Commissioner Gay to accept
and approve the amended minutes of the March 6, 2008, meeting.
Vote Results:
Yes: Chairperson Knapp, Commissioners Masuda, Gay, and Lewin.
Noes: None
Absent: Commissioner Hunter
Abstain: None
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Speaking before the Commission:
Jim Flournoy
8655 Landis View
Rosemead. CA 91770
Mr. Flournoy requested that Commission look at the red curb at the condos at Delta and
Rush, east side of Delta. A parking spot is missing.
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Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki will contact Mr. Ornelas.
Speaking before the Commission:
Peter Wu
4644 Ivar
Rosemead, CA
Mr. Wu stated that parking along southbound Ivar and westbound Mission restricts
turning onto Mission. He suggested there be a no left turn sign or no parking on the
north side of Mission.
Chairperson Knapp explained to Mr. Wu that the Traffic Commission presents ideas to
the City Council, The City Council has to approve what is presented to them. This item
will be looked at and the Traffic Commission will make a recommendation. Mr. Wu will
be notified when this is to come up again.
3. OLD BUSINESS
A. DRAFT — RESIDENTIAL ON- STREET DISABLED PERSONS' PARKING
PROGRAM POLICY AND PROCEDURES
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki presented the draft of the parking program.
Recommendation
It is staffs recommendation that the Traffic Commission review and comment on this
draft document and send the document with these incorporated comments to City
Council for approval.
Chairperson Knapp asked for comments.
Commissioner Masuda questioned the one -time $50 installation fee. The resident
requesting the blue curb might not have exclusive use of it, and it is a public parking
spot. He would also like to have more added to the reason for removal (last item under
"Policy "). The suggestion was to add "or regulatory restrictions." The same statement
should be added to 'Removal' (last page). On the 4 th page, item 3C, he would like to
see a definition of "high demand." Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki suggested 75%
or greater than 75% parking demand" could be added. In Section 3E, it was suggested
that "nor is an excess of vehicles or recreational vehicles in the driveway" be added to
the last paragraph in 3E. Regarding Property owner approval letter that applicant is to
attach to the application, there should be an easier process for the applicant, such as a
yes /no checkbox for property owner approval.
Chairperson Knapp stated she too is not comfortable with the $50 fee. There is no fee
for a green or white curb. Many of the potential applicants are elderly, and on fixed
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incomes; the $50 fee would . be a hardship. After further discussion, there was
agreement among the Commissioners that there should be no fee.
Commissioner Gay's main concern was the $50 fee, and he is okay with everything thus
far.
Commissioner Lewin stated he believes the applicant must demonstrate a long -term
need, and he suggested 1 year; this will also reduce the possibility of abusing the
program. Chairperson Knapp responded that there are good safeguards in place to
discourage abuse of the blue curb program. Commissioner Gay also believes there are
safeguards in place. It was suggested that "further documentation may be requested"
be added to the Application. Chairperson Knapp believes that the staff visit to the site
will provide a lot of information.
With regard to the Neighborhood Survey, Commissioner Lewin suggested that if an
applicant is unable to get the required signatures, there needs to be a process in place
to get the signatures. Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki stated that staff would get
signatures during the survey. The sentence "Incomplete surveys will result in an
automatic denial of the application" will be deleted from the Notice /Neighborhood
Survey form.
Commissioners discussed verbiage of 2 nd sentence under Neighborhood Survey: "The
following information is required from each household surveyed." Commissioner
Masuda's suggestion of adding checkboxes that allows the applicant to show he /she
was unable to get a response from a neighbor, and the reason was agreed upon by the
Commissioners.
It was recommended that Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki bring this back to the next
meeting.
4. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR A BUS LOADING /UNLOADING ZONE AT 8450 GARVEY
AVENUE
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki presented the staff report and study findings.
Recommendation
It is staffs recommendation that the Traffic Commission recommends the City Council
approve the installation of 50 feet of white curb and 20 feet of red curb in front of 8450
Garvey Avenue.
Chairperson Knapp asked for comments.
Ms. Rosemary Cai, owner of the shop at 8450 Garvey, was present and had no
comments or questions.
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Chairperson Knapp expressed concern about the white curb impacting Mission Fence
and asked where the white curb will be located. Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki
answered that it will be in front of the building at 8450, it would not extend beyond the
property line.
Commissioner Masuda asked if there is restriction in how long a vehicle can park in a
loading /unloading zone. Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki does not recall if there is a
limit set in the City of Rosemead; but generally a white zone is for loading and
unloading of passengers only, no parking. At this location the buses are there for a
short time according to the applicant.
Chairperson Knapp asked Mrs. Cai where the restaurant patrons park. She answered
that they use the parking lot in the back.
Chairperson Knapp asked if other drivers could use it at other hours. Traffic
Engineering Deputy Itagaki responded it would be difficult to enforce. The time limit can
be specified on the white curb.
Commissioner Gay wondered if the Traffic Commission would be setting a precedent.
He believes that perhaps more research or evaluation is needed, and he would like a
little more time to think about it and plan it out. Commissioner Masuda is also
concerned about setting a precedent.
Chairperson Knapp requested a motion.
Commissioner Gay motioned and Commissioner Lewin seconded to table this item for
further research and evaluation.
Chairperson Knapp asked if Mission Fence had been notified of this item. Traffic
Engineering Deputy responded that they were; there was no response from them.
Chairperson Knapp requested that they again be notified; she would like to get a
response from them. Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki stated they would be notified.
Commissioner Lewin stated he was at the site between 6:30 and 7:00 the previous
evening and saw no buses. He is skeptical about granting this request without a clear
established need; no buses have been seen during the reported hours of need. He has
not seen a clear, established need for a white curb.
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki will speak with Mrs. Cai and try to be there when
buses are there.
Commissioner Lewin stated he too is skeptical about setting a precedent; the
Commission needs to be careful what it does for businesses when it might impact the
public parking spots.
Vote Results:
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Yes: Chairperson Knapp, Commissioner Gay, Commissioner Lewin,
Commissioner Masuda
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: Commissioner Hunter
B. REQUEST TO REMOVE RED CURB AT 9102 VALLEY BOULEVARD
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki presented the staff report and report findings.
Recommendation
It is staffs recommendation that the Traffic Commission recommends the City Council
approve the removal of red curb to accommodate two parking spaces in front of the
properties at 9048 and 9102 Valley Boulevard.
Chairperson Knapp asked for comments.
Commissioner Masuda asked why the parking T's were installed. Traffic Engineering
Deputy Itagaki responded that the businesses felt the parking was not being used most
efficiently. The T's were to maximize the number of parking spots.
Commissioner Lewin wondered why the red curb was installed in the first place, and
suggested it might be for visibility issue for apartment residents exiting their driveway.
Applicant responded that the apartment residents have one way to get in and out, they
make a U in the back.
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki stated the whole block, owners and tenants, were
notified of the request for the red curb.
Commissioner Gay stated the Commission needs to take care of the small businesses
as much as the big businesses, and he sees no reason to have the red curb.
Chairperson Knapp requested a motion.
Commissioner Masuda motioned and Commissioner Gay seconded to accept staffs
recommendation that the Traffic Commission recommends the City Council approve the
removal of red curb to accommodate two parking spaces in front of the properties at
9048 and 9102 Valley Boulevard.
Vote Results:
Yes:
Chairperson Knapp, Commissioner
Commissioner Masuda
Noes:
None
Abstain:
None
Absent:
Commissioner Hunter
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C. REQUEST FOR ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE
PANDA EXPRESS PROJECT
At the March 6, 2008, Traffic Commission meeting, Commissioner Lewin requested a
copy of the environmental information prepared for the new Panda Express project on
Walnut Grove.
Commissioner Lewin stated he had actually requested the Traffic Element, not the
entire report.
Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki stated it is her understanding that the Commission
can make comments to the document, but there is nothing that she or Traffic
Commission can act on. They should forward any comments on the document to the
Planning Commission.
Speaking before the Commission:
Jim Flournoy
8655 Landis View
Rosemead, CA 91770
Mr. Flournoy stated the Planning Commission has not approved the Conditions of
Approval. Therefore if there is a need to change the Conditions of Approval the
comments need to be addressed to the Planning Commission. He distributed to the
Commissioners a synopsis of comments from a meeting called by Mayor. He explained
that there are conditions not foreseen at the time of the EIR and the checklist needs to
be corrected. He cited truck traffic as an example. He suggested the Commissioners
look at changed conditions. He believes the Traffic Commission should be able to look
at Traffic Element of an EIR checklist in the beginning of the process, not the end.
There was discussion between Mr. Flournoy and Chairperson Knapp about various
locations and how conditions have changed or improved.
Commissioner Lewin asked about the 15% pass by trips. Traffic Engineering Deputy
Itagaki responded that it is a little high, but not out of the realm. Commissioner Lewin
feels the number might be a little high and the impact is underestimated. Commissioner
Lewin stated there is significant unforeseen impact, at least in the EIR, on Rush. From
what he has seen there has been a significant impact on street traffic. He would like to
request a study of surface street impact around the area as part of the Conditions of
Approval. Another option would be to request City Council to refer the traffic element to
the Traffic Commission to evaluate. With the support of Traffic Commissioners, he
would appear before the Planning Commission and request that a surface street and
truck impact studies be completed as Conditions of Approval.
Chairperson Knapp suggested that perhaps the Traffic Commission should have a joint
meeting with the Planning Commission. Commissioner Masuda agreed.
Commissioner Gay stated there is a need for truck route studies.
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Chairperson Knapp requested a motion.
Commissioner Lewin motioned and Commissioner Gay seconded that the Traffic
Commission submit a request to the City Council to refer the Traffic Element of the
Panda Express Mixed -Use Development to the Traffic Commission for evaluation by the
Traffic Commission.
Yes: Commissioner Gay, Commissioner Lewin, Commissioner Masuda
Noes: None
Abstain: Chairperson Knapp
Absent: Commissioner Hunter
PRIORITIZED TRAFFIC STUDY LIST
• Truck routes
• Tour bus traffic in residential areas
• Location of crossing guards
• Street sweeping (and increased enforcement)
Will this require a study? Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki responded that it
might.
• Mission Drive between Rosemead and Valley crosswalks
• Protected permissive signals.
Will this require a study? Traffic Engineering Deputy Itagaki responded that
guidelines would be developed; specific locations would be looked at.
• Change in General Plan, Housing Density will impact traffic
5. STAFF REPORTS - NONE
6. COMMISSIONER REPORTS
Chairperson Knapp suggested that the crossing guard at Encinta /Mission (teenagers
are majority of cross walk users) should move to Ivar and Mission where elementary
school children are the majority.
7. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting is
adjourned until May 1, 2008, at 7:00 p.m.
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA )
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES ) SS.
CITY OF ROSEMEAD )
I, Gloria Molleda, City Clerk for the City of Rosemead, do hereby certify that the
Traffic Commission minutes of April 3, 2008 was duly and regularly approved by the
Rosemead Traffic Commission meeting on the I' of May 2008, by the following vote to
wit:
Yes: Knapp, Masuda, Gay, Lewin
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: Hunter
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Gloria Molleda
City Clerk