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CITY OF ROSEMEAD
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING U
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL
SEPTEMBER 13, 1983 AT 8:00 P.M.
The Regular.Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called
to order by Mayor Cleveland at 8:05 p. m., in the Council Chambers
of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the Flag was led by Councilman Tury.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend Richard Acosta.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Cichy, Imperial, Taylor, Tury and
Mayor Cleveland
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 9, 1983 - Regular Meeting
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the Minutes of the Council Meeting of August 9, 1983 be ap-
proved. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 23, 1983 - Regular Meeting
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the Minutes of the Council Meeting of August 23, 1983 be
approved. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Imperial, Taylor, Tury and Mayor Cleveland
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: Councilman Cichy
ABSENT: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar, commented on the posting of
the Flags on the Holidays, and stated that the Flags had been
left on the poles for a whole week, and he did not think that
was proper or respectful.
Councilman Tury stated that the Flags are now being posted
by the American Legion and this particular week there were two
holidays , Labor Day and Admission Day, Monday and Friday res-
pectively. That was the reason the flags were posted for the
whole week. If he had any questions regarding the manner the
flags are flown, he should contact the commander of the local
American Legion, Frank Larson.
B. Clara Morehead, 3642 Chariette Avenue, inquired why
there is a delay in starting the street improvement project on
Chariette, and also wanted to know what the full cost would be.
Don Wagner, Assistant City Manager, stated that the Street
Improvement Project on Chariette would begin tommorow, and that
he did not have the information regarding the cost in front of
him, however, he would call her tomorrow morning.
C. Maggie Estrada, representative of Smurfit Diamond
Election Suppliers, expressed a desire to provide the 1984
Municipal Election supplies for the City of Rosemead, and
stated that through automation the City of Rosemead could be
supplied with-a speedy and accurate election..
Councilman Taylor stated that he
being used for the Rosemead Elections
he felt that it was a very exciting n
residents participating, and not just
felt that the system now
is working very well, and
ight to have.so many of the
a machine.
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Councilman Tury stated that he agreed with Mr. Taylor, and
he felt that the personal involvement was part of the fun, and
possibly if Rosemead were a larger City, automation might be im-
portant and could be considered.
Councilman Taylor stated that if Miss Estrada wish to present
information to the City Clerk for the Council, he would certainly
read it because it is another source of information and another
alternative if costs get prohibitive.
PRESENTATION:
A. Mayor Cleveland presented a Resolution proclaiming October 2nd
through October 8th as Employ Handicap Week in the City of Rosemead.
Jack L. Rue, member of the President's committee, introduced
Sal Zamora, who invited the Mayor and City Councilmembers and the
citizens of Rosemead to the 31st Annual Meeting Kick-Off on October
4, 1983, and expressed his appreciation for the proclamation.
III. LEGISLATIVE
RESOLUTION NO.. 83-41 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS
Councilman Tury inquired about Warrant No. 7485 to Safari
Travel for airfare and questioned why tickets that had been pur-
chased in a booklet on a discounted fare had not been used to go
to Sacramento. He requested a memorandum explaining why they
were not used.
RESOLUTION NO. 83-41
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS & DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $267,663.52
NUMBERED 8666-8682 & 7425 THROUGH 8532 EXCEPT WARRANT
NUMBERED 7483 AND 7513 WHICH WERE VOIDED
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that Resolutuion No. 83-41 be adopted as amended. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR (Except CC-A and CC-K)
CC-B CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY ON BEHALF OF L.A. COUNTY/
LILLIANA ALVAREZ
CC-C APPROVAL OF TRACT MAP €138970, 8858 GRAND & 4747 IVAR
CC-D CHANGE OF STREET SWEEPING HOURS FROM NOON-4 TO 10-2
CC-E APPROVAL OF ENGINEERING PROPOSAL ON PINE STREET
CC-F APPROVAL OF WATER SYSTEM AND RELEASE OF BONDS FOR
TRACT #37061
CC-G AWARD OF BID--9TH HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
CC-H ACCEPTANCE OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICATION PROJECT "B"
CC-I AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE TO ATTEND CMBT
ASSOCIATION MEETING IN LONG BEACH, NOVEMBER 3 & 4, 1983
CC-J AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND CITY CLERK'S ELECTION LAW
SEMINAR, MONTEREY, NOVEMBER 30-DECEMBER 2, 1983
CC-L PROPOSAL FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN, ASSESSMENT
ENGINEERING, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND CONSTRUCTION
OBSERVATPON FOR GLENDON [NAY, PROJECT 1184-6
CC-M APPROVAL OF PROPOSAL FOR UPDATING MASTER SEWER STUDY
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MOTION,BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the foregoing Items on the Consent Calendar be approved.
Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-A AUTHORIZATION TO.ATTEND CONTRACT CITIES FORUM IN
WASHINGTON D. C.
Councilman Taylor stated it was his policy to vote "no"
on trips such as to Washington, D. C. no matter who does go.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CICHY, SECONDED BY MAYOR CLEVELAND
that authorization to attend Contract Cities Forum in Washing-
ton, D. C. from September 26 and 27, 1983 be granted. Vote re-
sulted:
AYES: Councilmen Cichy, Imperial and Mayor Cleveland
NAYES: Councilmen Taylor and Tury
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
CC-K INSTALLATION OF RED CURB--WALNUT GROVE & KLINGERMAN
Councilman Tury stated that he did not have any objections
to the red curb, however, he would like to see a.total package.
Parking in the alley had been talked about, however, he had not
seen any action taken on that. He wanted to have information
regarding alley parking and that people who were affected by the
red curbs would be allowed to put in a driveway at their own
expense, and a letter to go to the people affected informing
them of this choice.
Mayor Cleveland deferred this item to the next Council meeting
for the additional information requested.
V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION
A. MODERN SERVICE VERBATIM
Kress: Mr. Mayor and Members of the Council, you have the most re-
cent proposals and responses thereto included in.your Agenda packet.
I see Mr. Andrews is in the audience and I believe he wishes to
speak to his clients position on the City's offer. It would be
appropriate to recognize Mr. Andrews.
Andrews: Mayor and Members of the Council, I am Robert Andrews
the lawyer for Modern Service. The only thing I really wanted
to speak to is apparently, there was some confusion at the last
meeting over the requested dump rate increase. I read the minutes
and they indicated that Modern was asking for 6% increase on the
rate each six months, and that isn't what.I had proposed in my
letter. Sometimes, my letters are not the picture of clarity so
possibly there was some confusion. What we had asked for is a
6% increase for each dollar per ton of dump increase each six
months which is substantially different than 6% increase. At the
current time in the City of Rosemead, Modern Service picked up
approximately 66,900 tons of trash per year. A dump increase
of a dollar a ton,of course, equates to $66,000 a year of additional
overhead cost to Modern Service. The County of San Bernardino is
an example,in a one 30 day period approximately a month ago, went
from $3.50 a ton to $5.85 a ton. Now, that type of an increase, if
Los Angeles County should follow suit, and I will indicate that as
of today the County of Los Angeles imposed a 312 cent per ton increase
to merely study how much the increase would be. So if the County of
L. A. should take the same attach as the County of San Bernardino,
you are talking about an immediate increase in dump costs alone to
Modern Service of over $200,000 a year. So, that is why I am asking
in this proposal in an attempt to resolve this thing, is to have some
kind of a"summary proceedure to return to you other than a full blown
audit of books and all this type of thing, in order to get some re-
lief from dump charge that is imposed over which Modern Service has
no control, and which can be easily ascertained by anybody picking
up the phone and calling the L. A. County offices and verifying the
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the amount of the dump increase. So that is basically, the only
area that I had any point to make. I would be happy to answer any
questions that are still remaining after several prior meetings.
Tury: Mr. Mayor, I still have one question, as a point of explana-
tion to Mr. Andrews where I think the Council is reasonably firm on
the financial information as part of any further increase. It is
one thing to say that we can call and find out what the increase
in the dump rates are, that's fine, we can understand that, but what
we don't know is what portion of the total operating costs related
to the Rosemead franchise are the dump fees. So there is really no
way for us to relate the increase in dump fees to its relationship
to your increases in costs without some financial information on the
Rosemead franchise. I am sure you are aware that Azusa had been
in a similar situation and the Grand Jury studied their methods of
granting increases and they were having an audit and they were pretty
upset. They stressed strongly that the audit procedures should be
implemented in the Azusa franchise. You may even handle it, I don't
know. I think that.we are in a similar situation. I don't want to
see anyone go broke or lose money, but I think when we were dealing
with public money, there is already a built in escalator built into
it. One built in escalator into it. If we were to take an automa-
tically build in a second escalator, i.e. dump fee increases without
any idea of what portion of operating cost Modern are those fees,
how can we intelligently come up with a percentage. It is impossibly
tough.
Andrews: I appreciate you point Mr. Tury and I have no argument with
your point, but again what I am saying is that I would like to have
a separate system in this contract to take care of merely the dump
fee increase. We have talked in the proposals and counterproposals
that Modern will receive an automatic 7% per year. That has been
discussed in the proposals. I have even suggested to someone prior
we will cut that down. Cut that amount down equal to whatever the
dump is as part of the gross sales currently of Modern. We are not
asking to double dip so to speak. In other words get 7% which in-
cludes some factor for dump fees and then get dump fees again on top
of that, Again I am going to give you some ...Mr. Steadman, the CPA
for Modern is here with me tonight. In the last three years the
dump fees have gone from 9% of gross sales of Modern to 13.4% of
the gross sales. Now, I would have no objection, to any agent you
designate to verify that dump fees constitute 13.4% of the gross
revenues of Modern Service. So you know that it is 13.4% and then
when we tell you something later on, that o.k. now it has gone up
by so many dollars, that you come back and verify for those numbers.
I am not lying to you and I certainly don't object to you verifying
the numbers, but what I am saying is I don't necessarily think that
when we have a dump fee increase over which we'have no control, it
is necessary to get into things like how it costs us for tires or
batteries or the overall accounting data as it relates to Rosemead.
I would agree with the process set forth by Mr. Kress, that if we
come in and say "Hey guys, 77 just doesn't do it anymore overall",
here's why and bring your accountants in, take a look at the books,
open those books up, do anything you chose to do with them to verify
what we are saying. But 'what I am saying, that process can be a
very time consuming process, a very lengthy process, and at the
rate of $20,000 a month or $25,000 a month increase in dump costs,
I would like to be able to react a little quicker than possibly
going through a full blown audit.
Tury: I think that the information you have given us tonight on
your percentage of gross versus your dump fees, is the first time,
that this Council, that I am aware of, has been.made aware of any
percentage of your fees. We have never been priviledged to any of
the financial information because it has never been done in the
past. That is the reason that.I think that those are the kind of
things that this Council has to.know. And if you are willing to
give that kind of information, verified information, there is pro-
bably a way to work it out. But, if I go back through the letters
we have never...this is the first..as far as I know, the first,'.
voluntary information of that type that we have ever had.
Andrews: So you are making progress..
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Tury: So maybe we are all making progress. And if the willingness
is there to lay those-and have those verified-and lay those on
there then there is probably an area for agreement. This is the
first time that that has ever happened, and that is the reason
that I think that the majority of the Council has felt very strongly
that we have had to have that kind of information before we could
really do anything other than an annual "cost of living increase".
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, a question to Mr. Andrews and perhaps Mr. Steadman,
the accountant?
Andrews: Yes, he is.
Taylor: What Mr. Tury was referring to, I have not heard this.in-
formation before either. This is one of the things that we had
asked to be given Council so that we know where these costs are
coming from. Some of my questions probably, Mr. Steadman would
have to answer as far as these cost increases, last year, the
previous year. Does he have any knowledge of what they were at
that time or just this year.
Andrews: You are talking sir, as I understand it, about the dump
fee increases?
Taylor: The rate that you gave us a minute ago from 912 to 13 per
cent.
Andrews: Yes, sir, I jotted down, Mr. Steadman is here and he
can come forward and he speaks very well for himself. I can give
you some comparative numbers if you like.
Taylor: Do you have some previous years?
Andrews: Yes, sir. I have from 1980, 81, 82 and 83. In 1980,
the revenues were $2,127,000.
Taylor: Total revenues? .
Andrews: Total revenues, yes, sir. Dump fees were $201,000. Now,
I understand that Mr. Steadman has given these numbers rounded off
to the nearest thousand. Is that correct, Mr. Steadman?
Steadman: Nearest thousand.
Andrews: Nearest thousand. Which was 9.42% of gross. In 1981
the revenues were $2,304,000, the dump fees were $222,000 for
9.67%. Now, we got into the problem years, 1982 revenues were
$2,494,000, dump fees $295,000, 11.83%. As of May 31, 1983,
revenues of $1,135,000 dump fees of $148,000, 13.03%. Now,
that is for gross revenues for Modern. That is not just for
Rosemead. I didn't want to...my understanding is that all the
dumping is done that they can do at Pellisier which is a County
facility. But the County is now putting all the refuse haulers
on a quota system for tonage, and they are the cheapest facility
around. Once you meet your quota at Pellisier, and their current
rates are $3.75 a ton, once you meet that quota, and you meet it
during the month, then you must discontinue there and the closest
dump then that Mr. Griegorian has available to him is Azusa dump
which is $5 a ton so then it jumps substantially at a buck and a
half 'a ton if he meets his quota.
Taylor: You mention that those were figures that combine several
cities.
Andrews: No, sir. The only city that he has exclusive contract
with is the City of Rosemead. He has a small County area which
he has had for years which is not under contract. It is under a
license. The rest of it would be commercial service.
Taylor: The figures that you gave us was the total operation.
Andrews: Yes, sir.
Taylor: So we really don't know what part of it belongs to Rosemead.
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Andrews: Well, we know, according to the information Mr. Steadman
gave me, based on the trucks that are assigned to Rosemead is where
they came up with the figure as to the tonage that is currently
being dumped. I am saying these are gross revenues against gross
dump costs and we assume they are approximately the same for Rose-
mead since all the trucks hold 10 tons. They all go to the dump
when they get 10 tons except that sometimes they take more because
they.get a lot of overweight tickets. And...so it should be a re-
latively constant factor.
Taylor: The tonage, the reference you made to 60,000 tons per year.
Andrews: 66,000 tons per year, yes, sir. That is based on the
trucks that are assigned to the City of Rosemead. In other words
all of Mr. Griegorian's trucks, Modern Service trucks are not as-
signed to Rosemead. Yes, certain trucks are assigned on a regular
basis to Rosemead. They work Rosemead every day whether they are
commercial or residential or roll off. Every truck,when they go to
the dump, get dump tickets.
Taylor: Yes.
Andrews: They have a truck number assigned to them. It.will have
the license number on them, Modern #31, Modern #51,whatever it is.
You can actually look at those dump tickets if you ever want to
audit for your purposes. You can actually look at those dump tickets
and you can see how many this took in, 10.1 tons so on and so forth.
That's how I understand they came up with the tonage of 66,950 tons.
As a matter of fact, I think what Mr. Steadman told.me is that they
came up with 76,950 tons, but they said Bob, only count..knock 10,000
tons off because once in awhile a truck that is assigned to Modern,
if anothers truck break down they will send it over to pick up some
commercial stops, or something like that.
Tury: I think we've made great progress tonight. I think the willing-
ness to supply those figures to the City shows good faith on Modern's
part.. I would suggest that the City at this point.find a way of
coming up with this formula. A few weeks ago Mr. Taylor asked that
the City employ an auditing firm who did the City of Azusa, and we
have our own Ron Barzen, who works for us. We are not accountants
here, and maybe the City Attorney. Let them come up with the formula
that would be acceptable to everybody. Like I say that I have always
shied away from that is that no information,.as far I know, that I .
have ever seen before. If information is available, it gives us
something to work with. Mr. Mayor, I would suggest that you instruct
your staff to do that. To get the firm that Mr. Taylor has suggested
and possibly our own accounting firm and meet with your accounts and
see if we can't come up with some kind of a formula. I don't think
we are in a position to reach that kind of a formula.
Andrews: I would agree with that.
Tury: If something could be reached that is agreeable with you
and the Council, maybe we have finally done it after three years.
Taylor: What Mr. Tury was just refering to..it was five weeks ago
that we took action at this Council Meeting and directed staff to
get a couple of proposals from two consulting firms or auditing
firms, Simpson and Simpson was the firm that did the City of Azusa.
There evidently was a misunderstanding because neither was con-
tacted. So I think before we pursue this any further as far as
getting to a firm resolution of this contract, I would ask again
that staff contact the firm of Simpson and Simpson as one of the
consultants so that we know basically what would be a good recom-
mendation in an audit. I certainly don't want to be involved or
even obtain the information of all of Mr. Griegorian's different
businesses. We were told that all of this was consolidated in his
tax preparations. We are basically interested in the.services
provided in the City of Rosemead. That is what we would be look-
ing for with the firm of Simpson and Simpson: How to audit or what
do we need to audit and how do we audit it.
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Andrews: Mr. Taylor, if I may reply briefly to.that right now.
What I was talking about was this dump thing. That would be a
extremely difficult, because as I have told you in the past and
I believe Mr. Griegorian has told you, is that there are no separate
accounting records for Rosemead alone. We know what the gross in-
come is for Rosemead because of the franchise fee accounting, but
we don't keep at this time, Mr. Kress and I have discussed maybe
we are going to have to do that, but if somebody says "how many tires
did you put on that truck that is used in the City of Rosemead?" We
can't tell you.
Taylor: No, we are necessarily interested in operating costs,whether
it be the amount of gas, the number of tires, the license fees and
things like that. That is not what we are after, as far as the...
what were the revenues generated within the City: You should have
that so that the monthly billing as far as...I am assuming that
when these bills are all sent out there must be some monthly recapp
of what has come in and what has been sent out.
Andrews: There should be to send your check, would they?
Taylor: This is the thing. One of the aspects of well, o.k., this
is what our franchise fee is based on. There are several different
things of that nature. That strictly deal with the over-all costs.
As far as the dump fees, that has got to be broken out. When you
tell us that there are 66,000 tons or 60,000 tons, we have no way
to substantiate that. You tell us that is all consolidated. There
may have been 76,000. There may have been 66,000. There may have
been 56,000: We just have to take it at face value. It is kind
of hard for me to believe in one sense that if I had ten businesses
and I couldn't tell which ones were profitable and which weren't
without having separate records on them.
Andrews: Well, it is one business. That is the problem. It is
just one business.
Tury: I have one business, and I have a toug
profitable or not, too. I would like a point
think we should contact Simpson and Simpson.
Ron Barzen at McGladrey Hendrickson & Company,
and let's work out a formula on the dump fees
bably going to be the main thing that will be
Hopefully, we can....
h time to see if it is
of clarification. I
I would like to contact
your account or yourself
and think that is Dro-
sliding around radically.
Andrews: There were a couple of other areas Do we want to deal
with those tonight? I there has been a proposal that there would
be an ommission of the 1984 increase based upon the proposed in-
crease, but we had counterproposed that it be an annual increase
from the date of implementation. Whatever it is.
Kress: It looks like April.
Andrews: I hope it is not after April, may I would agree with your
proposal.
Tury: I can only speak for myself. I think that
is to find a formula for the dump fee increases.
is left can pretty easily be thrashed out. Those
Your willingness to provide us-with the informati
sant surprise, and I think it will go a long ways
our differences.
Andrews: Anything else.
the main thing here
I think whatever
are minor things.
Dn has been a plea-
toward resolving
Cichy: Do you have any industry surveys on the future costs on dump
fees. What the County and what the private dumps like BKK will be
doing? Maybe we could get some type of look at what its really going
to cost us down the line.
Andrews: The only thing I can tell you is from literature
read, and I certainly wouldn't want to represent that this
going to happen. Before 1990.you are looking at $30.00 a
dump fees. So in the next seven years.you are looking at
crease of approximately 600%. That is the dump costs ...in
metropolitan areas now. You go to the transfer stations e
this area now and you are at $20-$22 a ton, if you dump at
transfer station.
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So if there is any dumps left, by 1990, it will be in the vicinity
of, from the literature that I read, $30.00 a ton.
Tury: We are going to have to resolve that problem. Aren't there
ways that they are working towards a resolution of the problem.
We would be buried in our own garbage.
Andrews: They are discussing it. It is a problem of who bits the
bullet. There is a proverbial passing of the.buck in this area.
I went to a Solid Waste Conference conducted by the Federal Govern-
ment, and there reaction was get those dumps in guys, but don't ask
to put them on federal lands. Put them in the Cities or put them in
the Counties, but not on federal land. Because the problems that
the dump owners have today, I am not saying those problems are not
justified, but when you read about BKK and Mr. Arakelian's dump
in Monterey Hills and things of this nature, it is awfully tough
to keep a dump open. A dump owner is faced with constant litiga-
tion and environmentalists. I don't know. They are saying I
guess we are going to load it on railroad cars and run it somewhere,
but I don't know where. Any other questions? Thank you very much.
Mayor: Councilmembers you have heard the proposal, the discussion
on the proposal, what is your pleasure?
Tury: I don't think there is any action to be taken, Mr. Mayor.
I think that we have given direction to the City Attorney and the
management and they will carry forward on that.
Kress: Yes, we will, and I apologize for any confusion. It was
my misunderstanding of Councilman Taylor's request for information
from Simpson and Simpson and we will certainly make contact them
and see if they can assist the City in resolving this matter.
Cichy: Mr. Mayor, could we have an
Meeting on exactly where we are on
place and what is left to be done.
up-date by the next Council
it? On exactly what is taking
Kress: Yes, sir.
Mayor: Is that o.k. with Councilman Taylor?
Taylor: That is fine, Mr. Mayor. The other question is...Wasn't
there an extended date until September 14th as far as total rejection
of the proposal and counterproposal?
Kress: Yes, that was the latest action by the Council. I am assum-
ing by what you are now proposing to do,that that is extended to the
next Council Meeting.
Taylor: Fine, as long as it is clear.
Mayor: Councilman Imperial...
Imperial: No problem.
Mayor: This will be continued until the next Councilmeeting and
the City Attorney will make whatever is necessary suggestions so
that we may be able to resolve this.
V. B. BILLBOARDS
The memorandum presented to the Council advised them of certain
developments in the City's efforts to regular outdoor advertising
in the City of Rosemead which include the passage of amendments to
the Business and Professions Code relating to outdoor advertisement
which will require amendments to the City's own sign ordinance.
Councilman Taylor requested copies of the State Laws that have
changed before the Planning Commission is requested to make any
recommendations for changes to the City's sign ordinance.
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Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he would be happy
to advise the Council on what has already passed the State Legis-
lature and also of the several bills pending in this particular
legislative session. He stated that the reason that this item
was put on the Agenda is if the Council really wants to take a
look at the new proposed small signs and say that they don't
want any of those in Rosemead, then the mission of the staff is
clear and we will utilize the City's ordinance the best we can,
given the changes in State Law, to get rid of the existing small
signs. The purpose of this item is to get some guidance as to
what the Council desires.
Councilman Tury stated that he would personally would prefer
no signs in town. When the sign ordinance was adopted several
years ago it was aimed at eliminating the small signs, however,
they are all still there, and still being used. Possibly some-
thing is wrong with the City's ordinance or the enforcement. He
wanted to know if under State Law can the City eliminate those
small signs, and if it can't be done, then an alternate measure
must be taken. As far as large signs are concerned, he would not
want them along the Freeway where the new mall is being proposed.
He requested information on what the options are.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that he would bring this
matter back to the Council at a later date to receive possible
direction at that time.
Councilman Tury requested that an inventory of the signs be
included in the information that will be forthcoming.
Councilman Taylor stated that he,too,was under the impres-
sion that those small signs would be up-graded and they would
only remain for a few years.
Councilman Imperial requested as many pictures as possible
of the existing billboards along with a ,map pinpointing them, and
a memo regarding what enforcement has been done.
John Carmona, Planning Director, stated that he would prepare
that prior to the deadline.
VI. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Councilman Tury requested that a letter from this Council
be sent to the Long Shoremen membership who. did not unload the Ship
from Russia, and express the City's appreciation and congratulations.
B. Councilman Imperial requested that the Council Meeting be
adjourned in memory of those who were killed on the 747.by the
Russians.
C. Councilman Taylor requested that the staff do a follow-up
on the Sheriff's incident or the District Attorney's office.
D. There being no further business to handle, the City
Council of the City of Rosemead adjourned in memory of those who
were killed on the 747 by the Russians and the next meeting will
be September 27, 1983 at 8:00 p. m.
Respectfully submitted:
APPROVED:
Cat Clerk
(U~'j-4,J
2&a, -MAYOR
CM 9-13-83
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