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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE ROSEMEAD'CITY COUNCIL
MAY 25, 1982-AT 8:00 P. M.
The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was called
to order by Mayor.Tury at 8:00 p.. m., in the Council Chambers of
City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the'Flag was led by Councilman Cichy.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend Jim Kehrli.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Councilmen Cichy, Cleveland, Imperial, Taylor and
Mayor Tury
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 11, 1982 - Regular Meeting
Councilman Imperial commented that Councilman Taylor's name
was left off the roll call of officers, and this correction should
be made
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR,. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the minutes of the regular meeting of May 11, 1982 be approved
as corrected. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Tury commented on the honor bestowed on one of the
Councilmembers, Jay Imperial. He was given the E1 Grande Matador
Award by the executive committee of Contract Cities Association
for his outstanding service to the Organization. Mayor Tury
congratulated him on this honor, and stated that the Council was
proud of him along with all the City.
Councilman Imperial expressed his appreciation for this re-
cognition.
I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Preston Pierce, 7709 E. Garvey, complained about the
Auto Auction and the noise level while auctioning the cars.
Mayor Tury stated that someone would be.sent out to check
on the sound readings.
B... Natia Patel, 8544 E. Mission Drive, spoke about street
sweeping process in front of his home, and complained that they
are not cleaning up the street there, and water is accumulating.
Mayor Tury stated that it would be checked to see why that
area is not being swept, and the problem will be taken care of.
Mayor Tury stated that he had received another complaint on
the north end of Walnut Grove on the west side of the street, and
he requested a written memo regarding both items.
C. Juan Nunez-, 2702 N. Del Mar, inquired if the owners were
contacted on acquisition of properties.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that first appraisals
are made on properties affected by the street improvement. When
appraisals are completed, a right-of-way agent speaks with all the
affected property owners, discusses the appraisal and obtains the
necessary right-of-way. The Council then must accept all the Road
Deeds and accept the right-of-way granting that takes place by
those people for the exchange of dollars listed. on the proposal.
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Mayor Tury stated that everyone involved is contacted,
and stated.this is not a condemnation, is purchase for the
right-of-way.
II. PUBLIC HEARING
A. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER PROPOSED USE FOR GENERAL
REVENUE SHARING FUNDS TO BE BUDGETED FOR THE 1982-83
FISCAL YEAR.
Mayor Tury stated that the Public Hearing was open and in-
quired if there was anyone in the audience who would care to speak
regarding this matter.
No one came forward and the Public Hearing was closed.
Councilman Imperial stated that he had received a request
from Maryvale regarding a small child day care center, and he
had told them to write to the City Council.
Mayor Tury stated that a letter from them had not beeni
received, and Mayor'Tury stated that most people in the City
get the most out of the Revenue Sharing Funds by'allocating it
to Law Enforcement.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND
that the Revenue Sharing Funds be applied to the Law Enforcement
program. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
III. ORDINANCE NO. 545 - CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
AND AMENDING THE ROSEMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE
Councilman Taylor requested that Section 9106.28 Parking
be clarified by adding a "y" to full making it "fully" and by
deleting "containing three or-less bedrooms" to'item b. of that
section..in order to read "(b) Two (2) guest parking spaces per
dwelling unit.
Councilman Imperial stated that he had a problem with the
size of the bedrooms on.page 5.
..ORDINANCE NO. 545
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY 'COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
PROVIDING FOR CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND
AMENDING THE ROSEMEAD MUNICIPAL CODE
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that Ordinance No. 545 be adopted and the reading in full be waived.
Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNC.ILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Tury directed the City Attorney, to prepare an amend-'
ment to this Ordinance for the next meeting which would change
the size of the'bedrooms on page 5,from "120" square feet to
"160 square feet and not less that "12" feet wide instead of
"10" feet wide.
III-B ORDINANCE NO. 546 - AMENDING PARKING REGULATIONS CONTAINED
IN ROSEMEAD ZONING CODE .
Councilman Cichy requested that Section 3. Section 9122.9D
and E of the Rosemead Code be'changed to "nine (9) feet wide instead
of ten (10) feet wide and Section E be changed from.twenty (20)
.feet long to "sixteen (16) feet long: He.stated that the staff
could come up'wi'th stripes and the distance between them.
Mayor Tury stated that the small car parking area should be
set aside, and-marked "small car area", and this item be modified
and be reintroduced on the next agenda.
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III-C. RESOLUTION NO. 82-23 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS
RESOLUTION NO. 82-23
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS & DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $93,237.00
NUMBERED 8281-8290 &.3929 THROUGH 4019'INCLUSIVELY
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEVELAND
that Resolution No. 82-23 be adopted. Vote resulted:.
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR (Items CC-B, F, H, I, J, K deferred)
CC-A ADDITIONAL SIGNS--HELLMAN AT PROSPECT
CC-C POST OFFICE GREEN CURB MARKINGS--NEWMARK AVENUE
CC-D REQUEST TO INCREASE POOL FEES
CC-E AWARD BID FOR LANDSCAPE CONTRACT--MARIPOSA LANDSCAPE CO.
CC-G APPROVAL OF FIREWORK STAND-LOCATIONS
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that the foregoing items on the Consent Calendar be approved. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-B REMOVAL OF YELLOW CURB--N/E CORNER OF GARVEY & MUSCATEL
Mayor Tury stated that the owner had requested the yellow curb
be put in and inquired if he had been informed of this removal re-
commendation.
. John Mayerski, Traffic Engineer, stated that the owner has
been advised that it is being contemplated to take out the yellow
curb, but he had-not requested the removal. He stated that the
Sheriff has made attempts to enforce the provisions of a loading
zone, but the provisions have been ignored.
Mayor Tury stated that he would prefer to enforce this for
awhile.
Councilman Taylor requested that this item be deferred to the
next meeting with a plot plan showing the distance from the corner,
the driveway-and what is actually being proposed.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.that.this item be
held over and make an effort to get in touch with the owner of the
property, check the number of employees and the number of parking
spaces and requirements for'that business.
CC-F EXTENSION OF CDBG CONTRACT FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET
IMPROVEMENT
CC-K AGREEMENT FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 1982-83
Councilman Imperial stated that he pulled these items in order
to vote on them individually, and he stated that he did have a pro-
blem with the funding but did not have a problem with the project.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CICHY, SECONDED BY MAYOR'.TURY.,that Items
F and K be approved. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Cichy,'Cleveland, Taylor and Mayor Tury
NAYES: Councilman Imperial
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN:' None
Whereupon.the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and
so ordered.
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CC-H ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD DEEDS, PERMITS TO ENTER, AND RIGHT
OF WAY AGREEMENTS FOR DEL MAR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
Councilman Taylor stated that 'regarding Parcel #56 that
page 2 of the right of way agreement was missing.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that Parcel #56 be held
over to the next meeting and the others could be approved.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY.COUNCILMAN CICHY
that all the Road Deeds, Permits to Enter and Right of Way Agree-
ments for all parcels affected by the Del Mar Improvement Project
accept #56 be accepted and approved. Vote resulted: .
.UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Tury stated that Parcel #56 would be placed on the next
Agenda and requested additional information regarding what is hap-
pening on this particular parcel.
CC-I APPROVAL OF WATER SYSTEM--RELEASE OF SUBDIVISION WATER
SYSTEM AGREEMENT,TRACT #38303, AT 4229-4309 WALNUT GROVE
Councilman Taylor requested that addresses of the tracts be
placed on the memorandums.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that the Water System be approved, Subdivision Water System Agree-
ment, Tract #38303 at 4229-4309 Walnut Grove be released. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-J APPROVAL OF WATER SYSTEM--RELEASE OF SUBDIVISION WATER.
SYSTEM AGREEMENT & RELEASE OF FAITHFUL PERFORMANCE BOND,
TRACT #37012 AT 2626 WALNUT GROVE
Councilman Taylor requested that this item be deferred to the
next meeting for additional information on what has been installed.
There being no objection, this item was deferred to the
next meeting.
V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION & ACTION
A. ANIMAL CONTROL AGREEMENT VERBATIM PORTION
Tury: I have two Requests to Speak on the item, and I'll call
your name if you will come forward. Raquel Valdez. Come forward
please. Your name and address.
Raquel Valdez: Thank you. Raquel Valdez, 1661 Neil Armstrong St.
#145, Montebello, right on the border.of Rosemead and I'll be a
Rosemead resident after June 1. I am here to urge you to award
your Animal Control Contract to San Gabriel Humane Society instead
of the County.. As a private citizen I have been visiting five dif-
ferent shelters every three days including of the county's since
my cat was lost February 24th. I have developed quite an insight
of the every day workings of shelters including-Baldwin Park and
Shelter No.'1'on Garfield in Downey. I have three major areas
of concern and ,l is the treatment of the animal, 2 is treatment
of the public and-3 is the sanitation which poses a danger to the
animals as well as humans who visit and have to work there. I have
witnessed people.who work at the County shelters kicking a dog while
they were killing it with needle injections. I have been back there
and I have seen a dead dog in the area where they have killed the
animals bloody and it looked like a stab wound, just laying back
while the people in the front room were,.laughing and talking and
the animal is just laying there. The sanitation has been just
horrendous with a number of flys that you have to swat from your
face while you try to appear in the cages where the cats are and
there is a gutter in front of the dog kennels where the waste is
supposed to be washed down and out the drain, the water goes down
and the waste does not. There has been harrassment as far as a (cont.)
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Valdez: (Continued) couple of times I have been going. Recently,
I have been told by people there who have been letting me in for
three months every three days, that I would need a pass from the
front desk just to get in to see the animals and observe the sick
cats and when going to'the front desk I was told that was not nec-
essary, and when I have spoken to George Baca and Bruce Richards
they have said that was not necessary. Where you go to hang up
posters there is a sign that says you don't leave posters there
about lost animals that they will be taken down.so after waiting
12 minutes to inquire about it while people walk back and.forth
in front of the desk, that that was not necessary. They sell
animals to the lab at Baldwin Park. There is a small sign on the
back wall. It.is not prominent on the counter that says'that if
you bring your animals here unless you specifically tell us you
do not want your animal to go to the lab then we will honor your
request. If your stray ends up in somebody's yard and they turn
it in, your animal can end up turned into a lab without your know-
ledge. When my husband and I first went to Baldwin Park and asked
to look at the log which we.look at:.reguiarly at the other shelters
we were told we could not see the logs of the animals that'.were
picked up. After we repeatedly asked why we were just told that
Baldwin Park picks up more animals than any other shelter therefore
we couldn't look at the log. It made no sense. When we asked
what we could see, we were told we could see a list of the dead
animals that were picked up. Looking at that the cats were so
poorly described that just listing cat, a color code, no descrip-
tion as far as collars or anything. A member of the public that
has a dead animal picked up could never identify their animal & know
whether it'is dead or alive or whether to keep looking. I even
spoke to the supervisor who told me that he was not using it as a
excuse but they service an area of 95,000 peole and it is really
too many and therefore, they were having X problems. There is
such a grand difference between the the County Shelters and the
others. The other end of the extreme being the Humane Society in
San Gabriel which I always visit last and my traumatic journey ends
in an up-note which is like an Old MacDonalds Farm with people who
work there care and are hired more or less because they care it is
not just another County employee that„is looking for a paycheck.
It is much more spacious and the people are very friendly and help-
ful and are kind to the animals and the atmosphere overall because
of all of this is so much more conducive to people coming in and
adopting an animal. I also have a concern about the length of the
stay of the animals-in.the County Animal-Shelters. I have gone in
side and seen a whole area of the observation room wiped out except
for two or three animals and you know that all those animals did
not come in on the same day. Sometimes I go after going every three
days without missing one and see some only once and they are gone
and they are not all adopted out. In summary I would like to say
to provide the service that Rosemead is looking for for the tax
payers and for the animals the Humane Society is definitely the
best source for that service, and would pain me after going in
and seeing the treatment of those. animals and the harrassment that
I get from going there just from being there so often for you not
to award it to them. I would really sincerely urge you to do that.
Imperial: A question I would like to ask this young lady. You spend
an awful lot of time going from animal shelter to animal shelter.
Can you tell me why?
Valdez: Yes,.I love my cat. My cat may have very likely ended up
at a family's door, but I cannot risk my not being there and it is
like an extermination camp there. They select the animals right
in front of you and just take them.
Imperial: I have lost something here....
Valdez; I want to get my animal out of one of those possible shelters.
Cats can be anywhere. They are not like a dog that goes into the
next door, they jump into cars and everything else.' So I have ended
going into all of them regularly.because I love my cat that much.
Imperial: Because you own a cat is your motivation for going into
all these shelters...
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Imperial: Then, this is not something you would normally do,
you are just looking for your cat:
Valdez: No, this is a' traumatic thing. I get very upset.
Cichy: Have you filed a complaint .with the County with the Board
of Supervisors.
Valdez: I have not with the Board of Supervisors, but I have
talked with Mr. Tripepi several days ago and when he found out
I was in Montebello, he asked me to call there and he did have
Mr. Baca call me. I did meet with Mr. Baca and Mr. Richards,
and I also spoke with the Supervisor in Baldwin Park. Somethings
were cleaned up right away when they knew I was coming on Friday
and it looked very nice but somethings were very blatant and the
people had obviously been talked to, some of the very rude ones,
there are some very good people but the balance of the bad people
makes it so much worse and they were extremely facetious and rude
to me when I went and it was obvious that they had been talked to.
Tripepi: You also spoke to someone in Montebello.
Valdez:. Jose Sanchez, Financial Director, there.
Tury: Thank you very much.'
Tury: Next.person, Bill Workman.
Workman: Good evening Mr. Mayor.and Members of'the City Council.
My name is Bill Workman, I'm the Administrative Coordinator for
the San Gabriel Animal Control Authority. Before you tonight is
a proposal from the Humane Society for Animal Control Services.
The Humane Society has provided very fine service to the Authority
Cities for the past several years at a price substantially lower
than what the County can provide. The Authority would like to
invite your membership in the Authority through favorable consi-
deration of the Humane Society's proposal this evening. With the
Mayor's permission I would like to introduce Mr. Bill Dennis,
City Councilmember of the City of Temple City and currently the
Vice Chairman of the Authority Board.
Dennis: Thank you, Bill. Mr. Mayor and Members of the City Council,
my name is William Dennis, Mayor Pro Tem City of Temple City and
Vice Chairman of the San Gabriel Valley Animal Control Authority
Board. The only thing I would encourage you gentlemen to do is to
study very carefully the proposals on the alternatives for you. 'I
can best relate to the experience that Temple City has had as far
as Animal Control since our participation in Animal Control Authority
which is a consortium of seven cities. That'we have been highly
pleased with the results that we have seen and have felt that we
have had a great deal more control over the Animal Control that takes
place in our City. Obviously, the County services that are provided
prior to the current time is only one alternative and that is com-
plete service. We felt that we couldn't survive and meet the needs
of our citizens with the type of service we were receiving from the
County and that was the main purpose of joining the Animal Control
Authority. Up to this point we have had a great deal of success
and a great deal of good response from our citizens acting through
the Authority and the San Gabriel Valley Humane Society.
Tury: What level service does your City receive? Is it a total
package that you receive?
Dennis: We are just contracting for pound service. We are provid-
ing a provision for our own animal control officer which has proved
very successful, and the ability to contract with the Humane Society
for service through the authority.
Taylor You made reference to Animal Control Officer. The City
has there own own officer?
Dennis: Yes, the City has purchased their own animal control vehicle
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Taylor: So the Humane Society is supplemental to yours.
Dennis: We contract through the Authority through the Humane
Society for Pound Service.
Taylor: But the officer is a direct employee of the City..
Dennis: Yes, a direct employee of the City.
Taylor: What is your cost of that?
Dennis: I did not bring those figures with me.
Taylor: Because the total package that is being proposed is
approximately $5,000 of each other. Somewherein the neighbor-
hood of $70,000. I was curious of what your combined cost would
be.
Dennis: I don't have that with me, but I am sure Carl could
provide Frank with those figures very easily.
Tury: You also do your own licensing?
Dennis: Our Animal Control Officer has provided a great deal of
impetuous in that area by the fact that he is out in the field
every day.
Tury: Do you have rotating times for him?
Dennis: Yes, some days he may start at six in the morning and
some days he will be on week-ends.
Tury: Forty hour week?
Dennis: Yes, and we supplement that with backup service with the
Humane Society.when he is not on duty.
Taylor: As far as the licensing is yours done door to door or
computerized licensing. The County proposes to handle it by mail
thru'a computerized billing.
Dennis: We are not computerized but it is on a mail basis.
Cichy: Bill, Councilman Dennis, when you went to using the Animal
Control Authority did you receive the list from the County regard-
ing the previous licensing in your City?
Dennis: I am sure that was available, yes.
Cichy: Do you know the approximate licenses issued in your City?
Dennis: No, I don't recall, right off the top of my head. I did
not bring those figures with me and I am not prepared.
Tury: Any questions?
Dennis: I would just would encourage your consideration of the
participation in the Authority speaking as a member of the Board
and as a Councilman such as yourself, I believe that it has been
beneficial to our City, and deserves some consideration by Rose-
mead.
Tury: Thank you. I have no more Requests to Speak and if there
is anyone else who would like to say' something o.k. Mr. Baca.
Baca: Mr. Mayor and Members of the City Council, my name is
George Baca, Chief Executive Director of L. A. County Animal
Control, it is a pleasure to address you again. The last time
we were here there were some questions on our telephone systems
and whether we would be able to make any adjustments on the toll
line. We wrote a letter to .Councilman Imperial,a copy of which
went to each of you. Since the letter was written we have received
partial agreement or partial consent from the department of commu-
nications to install the line which is in addition to the remote
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Baca: (Continued)
call fording that I mentioned. It appears that we will be able
to do so with no cost to the City and very little cost to the
County which.would not reflect anything on that. I have no argu-
ment with Councilman Dennis's statement. The City of Temple City
left the County Service in the 1960 period so we don't have any
information either as far as licensing information. If there are
any additional questions....
Tury: Some one told me that we used to have more licenses before
we went into the computerized licensing than we have today.
Baca: Yes, we probably did. The one fault we have with computer-
izing licensing'is that you do have a slight decrease because
people do not always license voluntarily. That is why we have
licensing enforcement arm. It does show slightly a reduction.
Tury: You show in your proposal substantially more than you
are requesting now. Am I correct in that?
Baca: Yes, we are. We anticipate that we will issue 4500 licenses
and this will be accomplished through not only our mailing system
but we do have an officer full.time in the City and he can spend
some of his time in canvasing while we are there. We also have some
indications that our senior citizen program is one that will help
us supplement our canvasing. There is a program in the County
that we administer where senior citizens-pa rticularly can supplement
their income and they have like a finders fee. This is another of
the areas that we:are going to be utilizing.
Tury:. I guess that is the only questions I have right now. Any one
want to question Mr. Baca?
Imperial: I appreciate the County offering to put in a toll free
line. It kind of disturbed me when I got the letter from you that
said sorry you couldn't consider it at this time. I have to wonder
with no-more flexibility than this, how interested you are in serv-
ing the people in Rosemead. I can appreciate your'offer, but I
would'also,if.at all possible like to take a very close look at
Temple City project. Maybe be able to scrutinize what they have
done over these years, and make an unannounced visit to the Shelters.
I guess what I am trying to say is can this be postponed or does it
have to be voted on tonight?,
Tury: When does this expire? July 1st?
Rankin: July 1st but it requires a.30 day notice.
Tury: We are getting down pretty close on it, Jay, we-can run it.longer
Tripepi.: In response to Mr. Taylor and now Mr. Imperial's question,
we have budget figures for Temple City. It appears in next year's
budget for one officer and a truck and half a clerk-typist, license
canvasser, they use a college student and pay a flat $5.00 per hour,
I believe we were told. The total is $61,500 is what they are budgeted.
Taylor: Mr. Tripepi, the information that you have there is that
comparison to.di£ferent City rates?
Tripepi; Yes, sir. It is scratch notes on one and Covina, Duarte
and Glendora, Monterey Park, San Gabriel, Temple City and West Covina,
and that's basically all I have. I am not sure that it is $61,500
would include the shelter costs. Perhaps, Mrs. Coleman..I don't know.
Taylor: Is any of that information in the packets?
Tripepi: I believe it was in the last meeting... it was not typed
or anything like that..just a last minute phone thing that we did
prior to the last meeting.
Tury: I don't think we received that information.
Taylor: I find it interesting and we are asking questions of
Councilman Dennis and such and I have to admit that I am disgusted
with the proposal, the recommendation that was given to us because
there is nothing concrete as far as it is theoretical and I have
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Taylor: Continued:
the memorandum from the last Council Meeting, what the County
was proposing to do and the recommendation at this meeting of
what they are proposing to do and I would like to go to go thru
them with the theory that is being proposed not factual dollars
but the theory and I hate to jump on you hard about that Frank,
but that information was critically asked for. We asked what
is the best program that we can get for this City and if you
had checked with Temple City and such and asked the Councilman
his information. It is pertinent to the subject and I think
that these proposals are biased. I use that word because....
I'll go through the reading of this one letter from the last
Council Meeting cover letter..It pertains to the County is un-
able to continue the present level of service at the same cost
to the City of Rosemead, the County recommends a reduction in
the number of hours in which the Animal Licensing Investigator
is in the City of Rosemead. Mr. Baca just mentioned that there
is extra hours that we will have in the City. Yet, this proposal
says it is going to cut.... it continues, at present, they have
been spending approximately 800 hours per.year in this City, the
County proposes to reduce this to 400 hours but yet we are going
to increase the dog licenses from 3,500 to 4,200 in the proposal
last meeting, this proposal says they are going to go to 4,500
or another 1000 dogs. Theoretically, that is the way it is put.
It continues, in order to license a greater number of animals
within the City of Rosemead, the County proposes to use volun-
teer groups to conduct a census and provide information of ani-
mal owners. I heard the word tonight that we are going to have
finder fees for people that find dogs that are not registered.
They get paid for that now. So that is cost that I.don't see in
here. How is it going to be.absorbed. Is that a hidden cost that
the County passes on? It continues on further... the proposal is
to work with senior citizens which may be interested, the County
will be hiring a full time volunteer coordinator to deal with the
City groups interested in this program. I am not sure where the
hiring of that full time volunteer comes in. I can't find it
broken out in that cost that we have..Thru.up-.dated information, the
possibility of a greater number of licenses could be realized, the
possibility, we are going on the asumption that all these costs
that we are going to get 4500 dogs registered. It continues ...in
order to balance the services with the amount of revenues the County
would have to license an additional 700 animals in addition to the
3500, which equals the 4200 animals. The County intends for the
additional licenses to.be achieved through the cooperated efforts
of both City and County. They also intend to allow animal control
officers to license dogs. Going to the proposal this week now, it
states ...as stated for the last Council Meeting, it is the County's
intent to realign the services they provide with the revenue col-
lected from the License Program within the contracting Cities. In
order to accomplish this they have instituted changes in their or-
ganization and initiated cost-cutting programs. Going back to the
letter I just read. They are going to cut the man-hours in half
and they are going to increase the licensing 20% to 250. In order
to accomplish this they have instituted changes in their organization
and initiated cost cutting programs. There has been some concern
as to the manner in which the County would ally its level of services
with the level of revenue from licenses. It is erroneous to antici-
pate that all the cost disparity would be made up to direct charges
to the City. The County has already implemented measures to reduce
operating costs. They intend to emphasis license programs within
the contract cities. Amongst the methods they intend to utilize
are allowing officers to sell licenses and the possible use of volun-
teer groups to identify pet owners. Again this is theory, it is not
what is actually going to happen. The last paragraph in the cost
comparison an attempt was made to compare equal programs,this becomes
difficult given the different level of service provided by each party.
For instance, under the shelter care with the County, the City costs
is providing care for a minimum of seven days per animal, the length
of care provided by the Humane Society is a minimum of five days,
another disparity is in the number of hours in which the shelter is
open for visitation. The County is open a total of 63 hour per week,
and the San Gabriel Valley Humane Society is open a total of 45 hours
per week. This represents 38% fewer hours than the County proposal.
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Taylor: (Continued)
Going on to page 3 of this weeks proposal, the first cost, regular
shelter cost, the County $20,000 and the Humane Society $30,000.
I have a.minor variation here. I multiplied 42,000 residents in
the City of Rosemead by their rate that was given, I come up with,
$26,700 that seems to be $4000 over. Going down to field services
Animal Control service #9, the County charges $46,133 and this is
based on 1400 hours. If you read in the back it states Item #9
The Animal Control item is based upon Los Angeles County estimates
for fourteen hundered (1400) hours of service within the City of
Rosemead. This includes the personnel costs and those associated
with officer; vehicle and the supplies. Now, this breaks down to'
four (4) hours per day at 1400 hours. It also breaks down to.$32.95
an hour. San Gabriel Valley Humane Society will provide regular
patrol services.at the rate of $17.35 per hour. These costs are
also based on 1400 hours. So from $17.35 per hour to $32.95 per
hour both using the 1400 hour figure. Note #8 in the explanation
states the County proposal includes four..hundred (400) hours for
an Animal Investigator. Keeping in mind that they dropped it from
80'0 to 400. This individual would focus on those who did not res-
pond to computerized-mailing. The County uses a computerized
mailing system for the initial contact with pet owners. This al-
lows them to focus man-hours in areas where most needed. This 400
hours broken down again is an hour and half per day. Under the
original contract with the total of 3800 animals that was in this
proposal they have to come up with an additional 700 dogs to meet
the 4500. Such discrepencies that I find going back to the Animal
Control in the costs comparison. The County $46,133, Humane Society
$24,290 or minus $22,000. As you get to the bottom line..total
program costs of all the comparisons above the figures the County
has $76,800 and the Humane Society $70,400. The next item less the
license revenue..the County is basing it on $54,000 that is for 4500
licenses,the Humane Society is using a figure of something like
3324,:that is an approximate one picked up from West Covina, but
they are basing it on 3300.animals and that comes to $39,800. If
you base the County's on the current figures of 3500 licenses, we
have got $76,000 minus $42,000 at 3500 licenses. They are propos-
ing to have a Revenue of $54,000, but if we realistically use 3500
licenses that drops $12,000 off of it. So there is too much ambi-
guity in this proposal and I can't just accept what is being
there is nothing concrete about what they are going to provide for
the citizens of Rosemead. I am not prepared to:accept it the way
they have it.
Cichy: I believe it has been two years since we have had any imput
such as this young lady gave us. As I recall there was two sides to
the issue, volunteers of both organizations. Not making accusations
but stating that either the County provided better, more humane ser-
vices than the other one. I am not disputing her questions at all.
In fact we have had volunteers from both sides speak.That is probably
an issue that we do not address. What kind of care they are getting.
We usually look at the dollars and cents, see how many people are
going to get their dogs licensed and how they get the dogs off the
street,.and that is one of the biggest ...that is one of the real
big ones we look•at as Councilmen, because when the.citizens com-
plain about their trash cans being torn up, that's when they look
at it.
Tury: One of my concerns, I have not visited the Baldwin Park
Shelter, but I have visited the San Gabriel Valley Shelter at
their invitation, it is beautiful,clean and nice. It may have
been cleaned because I was going there, but I doubt it, it was
too well organized. I do question, being as they don't do field
service for too many cities on a regular basis, there is a question
in my mind. I can agree with what Mr. Taylor said. I don't see
how we can assume that one group can license a 1000 animals more
than the other group. Especially, when we have had declining
licensing for the last two or three years, if that be the fact,
and I think it is a fact. That is now.going to'be turned around
because senior citizens are going to be involved in it. I really
question that. I.-would like Mrs. Coleman explain to me how their
licensing canvasing works also. I don't really understand that
either. If Mr. Baca would like to make a comment go ahead...
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Baca: I can understand your concern, Mr.' Mayor, and Councilman
Taylor. The cost comparison sheet that you referred to makes
references to cost County and Humane Society. These costs for
field services are not past on to the City: These are costs
that costs us to provide the City.
Taylor: Point of clarification ...if that is in fact true, where
are these costs picked up from...
Baca: From licensing, it is part of our revenue generation that
we have to offset the costs, and we attempt-to do so and this is
the way we do it...this is the way we break it down ...for your
purposes, we have identified the cost, but the cost itself is
not passed on to the City the only 'cost the City. has to pay
in out of pocket money is the shelter program costs. That is
for the animals that are being housed at the facility now whether
they are received by citizens brought in.by citizens, or picked
up by animal control officers..that is the only out of pocket money
you have.
Tury: Actually, then all of these figures that are costs to the
City don't mean a lot then, is that what you are saying?
Baca: The costs are there so that we can address the issues that
were brought up by the Humane Society and ourselves, so that there
is a comparison of apples and apples and oranges and oranges.
Tury: The Humane Society insists there is no revenue ...they always
insist that there is 0 license revenue. It is indeed an off-setting
cost instead of a revenue exchange..
Baca: That is correct.
Taylor: Has anyone seen the report that is referred to here by
the Grand Jury checking out their operations.
Tury: I haven't seen it..
Taylor: I haven't seen it either..I guess there is one problem..
The County has very fine employees in the organization as such,
but it also has the ability because of large resources and funds
to overlap and intermingle different charges so that there is no
....to-my knowledge any factual way of auditing specifically what
each city pays or is charged. The different charges that are
applied. I am curious about the Grand Jury auditing committee or
whatever was done recommending cuts to the County pound service .
I don't know what their recommendations were, but yet, something
must have been done where you are cutting hours from 800 hours to
400 hours trying to find different ways of implementing cost re-
ductions.
Baca: Part of the recommendation of the Grand Jury Report was
that we streamline our licensing program, to that end we have cut
some of the.costs by reducing the personnel that we have aboard.
Thereby reducing hours available to us. So consequently we are
reducing hours accordingly, depending upon the amount of service
we need in that City.
Tury: Am I correct in assuming then, actually the number of hours
we get will depend solely upon the number of licenses that you sell.
So we are not actually.contracting for so many hours worth of patrol
we are simply allowing you to collect licenses and in turn give us
services for a like,amount of money.
Baca: Essentially,,yes.
Tury: So we really don't have any control over how many hours we
have.
Baca: That is correct.
This is just our recommendation. We feel that we can accom-
plish a mission within that time frame.
Tripepi:,. Do you have any way of setting that in concrete? Do you
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Tripepi: I am just curious and I am not taking offense at what
Mr. Taulor said, but I think that everyone should understand that
we are dealing with very theoretical kinds of things here. I don't
think anyone can project exactly how many hours that we are going
to be able to pay for out of a given number of licenses because
I don't think either figure can be had right here tonight for the
next coming year.
Baca: I am sorry Mr. Tripepi I cannot come up with that number.
Imperial: This brings me back to about a year ago, when we sat
here and we listened to practically the same thing. I at that
time voiced my displeasure at the County Animal Control System.
I wasn't particularly willing to go along with the,San Gabriel
Valley Humane Society, but at that time I did request, being that
we had to vote on it, get the contract put to bed as apparently
we have to tonight, that the City staff do some research, the
reason for my request for some research because it.had been brought
to my attention prior to that the City of San Gabriel.had their own
type of system going there. At the time, if you can remember Mr.
Mayor I requested that the City staff do research, not only for
what it would cost us to handle our own animal control, but with
cities surrounding the City of Rosemead. With the possibility of
a tri-city animal control situation; where we could go into busi-
ness so to call it with maybe San Gabriel, So. E1 Monte and see
what it would cost us and what we can come up with. I don't ever
recall getting that information. I am back as far as I am concerned
where we were a year ago, still wondering if that would work or
not.. The only thing as far as I am concerned from a year ago with
the County that we have somebody that is taking care of our City
right now, that in my opinion does a good job.' That doesn't change
the County system for me, but that certain individual does a good
job, and if he decides to become the president of a bank tomorrow,
we are going to lose that individual and I feel like we are going
to be right back.to point A again. I think to make a rational de-
cision, I would have to have the information I requested awhile
back and I would like to make some visits to the shelters, both of
them. Thank you.
Tury: Would you please explain your licensing procedure to me,
and it is done by canvassing and that is as much as I know.
Mace:' My name is Phil Mace., Assistant Executive Director of the
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society, right now we do it almost ex-
clusively by canvassing, relicensing we will be doing it by mail.
We don't do it this year. We do handle some licensing by mail,
but we don't initiate it by mail.
Tury: You mean, you put out two million teams and they walk the
whole city or what happens?
Mace: We have, basically, commission agents, paid people, licensed
salesmen. They are screened... by the way I would like to ask if
the Council if they receive our May 20th letter with the summary
of services.
Tury: Yes, we did.
Mace: As I stated in the summary, these inspectors are hired in
the numbers necessary to canvas the City and they go through a
polygraphic examination and we determine that they are fit to go
out and meet the public and handle the licensing program and they
do it. They have.an incentive. They get enough from actually can-
vassing that it is quite an incentive. As a matter of fact that
is one of the reasons why our licensing program produces two city
dollars for every dollar we spend collecting a license. Whereas,
the County license program is audited by the Grand Jury results in
the County spending two dollars for every one dollar the County makes.
So you have an exactly opposite situation, in terms of profit margin.
As the Grand Jury pointed out, the County uses a purely canvassing
program but they pay their canvassers by the hour and that is a mis-
take, it has been proven to be a mistake. The Grand Jury found out.
We don't do that we pay people for producing. So that is the basic
difference between their program and ours right now. They say they
will initiate license sales by computer and in a hand out that I have
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Mace: Continued:
prepared that I hope you have I have indicated that that is not
true, indicated that was not possible. A computer does not ini-
tiate anything, a computer is fed information by a human being
that has initiated something or learned something and is passing
that information into that computer, the computer can relicense,
and we are able to go to a relicensing computer system on very
short notice. Any public agency as I have indicated can sign up
with the City•of Los Ageles system and have on line a very ef-
fective relicensing system when the numbers indicate. If there
are no other questions right now... I would like to go over a
couple of points. to illustrate why,the San Gabriel Valley Animal
Control Authority,-in our opinion, at least from our vantage point,
did form itself in a union of seven cities and some of the contract
advantages that they now enjoy. I have handed you, I hope the clerk
handed you earlier, a number of pages, the last four are exerpts
from the proposed County five year contract. I would like to point
out starting from page #2 the provisions of the County Contract
which are being carried. over from their old.one year contract to
their new five year proposal, that are the very provisions that
our member cities are happy to be free of. The first is not so
obvious ...it is the second paragraph..it says the level of service
shall be the same basic level of service that is and shall be
hereafter during the term of this agreement provided for unincor-
porated areas of the County of Los Angeles by said Director of
Animal Control. Well, that is not a very definite standard. That
is not so many hours per week, that does not tell you anything.
It also doesn't tell you in the case of the City of Los Angeles,
vs. the County of Los Angeles the Judge ruled, the ruling has not
been appealed and overuled at this point, ruled that the municipal
level of service is higher than in an unincorporated level of
service and that the level of service that you are contracting for
by law, by definition, less than a municipal level of service. I
would defer to your Attorney if he has comments on that. I am an
Attorney myself and I.do have some knowledge of these matters, and
I have been following this case with great interest. I feel that
it is.ironic that the'County would come to a City and offer an
unincorporated level of field service when the Courts and the
whole thrust,of the League of California Cities is to establish
that a County level of service is different and lower than a*City
level of service for several County-wide services including Animal
Control, but that is what they are asking you to sign up for. The
next paragraph that 'I have highlighted which effectively puts you
out of the picture. If you have'a dispute'whether a certain part
of your City should be patroled or whether you should have more
hours or differences with an officer, this paragraph says it is
the determination of the Director ofAnirimal Control that is final.
You can talk but you cannot decide. That you do not even have the
right to influence your contractors decision. That is not the
case with the San Gabriel Valley Animal Control Authorities Contract.
The Humane Society retains no authority to make a final decision
regarding service to a City other than a-decision to give an animal
veterinary service. We did not want squables over that matter so
we do have the absolute right to say that this animal needs veterinary
service and the City has to pay. If we cannot get along on that
basis, then we are going to have trouble keeping that City in our
program. We do get along. As a matter of fact, our cost of veterinary
care is approximately one half that the County is experiencing under
their $20 limitations. That is putting it on the average veterinary
cost for the animal impounded. We are running about 1/2 their cost,
based on actual statistics over 12 - 16 months. Another item is
that on page #4-I have highlighted their requirement that the City
fall in line with the County and adopt any ordinance that the County
adopts. That is not only a regulatory matter but a fee matter.
You cannot set your own fee schedules. Whereas the member cities
authority has awide variety of fee schedules, both impound fee wise
and license fee wise. We have a member City that has made a policy
decision as a City Council that the taxpayer should subsidize the
Animal Control because it protects property so that they have a low
license rate relative to the County which now has one of the highest
license rates in the State of California.' They need money to keep
their program afloat. You lose that descretion in the County Contract
and you retain that:descretion in total under the Authority Contract.
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Taylor: Mr.,Mayor, point of information he just mentioned that
the County has one of the lowest rates.
Mace: Highest licensing rates. They have raised it this year.
I assume you have adopted a following Ordinance.
Taylor: It was interesting, last year after we went with the
County and approved it and such, the point was made, that they
turned around and raised all the rates after we agreed to the
Contract and'it was after the official date it had to be approved.
That was-not given to us before we approved it, but after we
approved it-the new rates went into effect.
Mace: Yes, that's correct, and I will state that to our knowledge
the County had that information at the time they......
Taylor: I am sure they must have because it referred back to
too much.....
Mace: The Grand Jury Report had been out for two months, and we
had to go dig that out ourselves in downtown Los Angeles.
Taylor: What is the rate recommended in your authority right now?
Mace: The Authority right now for License rates simply goes on
a City by City basis.
Tury: What is the average fee? Do you know what the average is?
Mace: It ranges from $10 and $15 the highest and $5 and $10 the
lowest. West Covina-is the lowest,at $5 and $10.
Taylor: Each City sets their own rates. It is not the Authority
that does it.
Mace: That's right. The Authority has:nothing to do with the
rate, the Authority has nothing to do with regulations, the Author-
ity has actually' nothing to do with the Humane Society contracting
with the City for License services. The Authority contracts states
that that will be a matter to be determined between any city wanting
that service and the Humane Society, and that is partly because our
cities range in population from Duarte and West Covina. Where we
anticipate a high volume of sales, we can offer'a different rate
of licensing program than a smaller city can afford.
Taylor: I am sorry I interrupted, if you want to continue with
your information.
Mace: That is alright, the other item I have highlighted on page
#4 is simply the Contract provision that simply states that the
County does keep.and retain any and all license fees provided by
your ordinance and collected by the County and then I have high-
lighted some items.on page #5 of the proposed contract, the unequal
cancellation privileges that you have with the County, that they
can cancel you and leave you'high and dry'on thirty day notice
and you are without a program. You cannot put together a program
quite that fast and on the other hand if you want to cancel the
program with the County you have to wait until the end of that
fiscal year so if you are unhappy in January you have to wait until
July because that is what the Contract says. But the largest rub
in the entire Contract is the rates. At the bottom of the page it
refers.to the following rates and I notice it is subject to the
auditors increase. That is born out on page #7 where the contract
specifically states'that the rates shall be adjusted by the County
Auditor annually effective July 1st, they do not announce them on
July lst. I talked with one of the gentlemen in the Alhambra Finance
Office who was formerly with the County Auditor's Office and he
verfied that the auditor routinely determines these adjustments in
December of each year. So in:December the County Auditor decides
what you should be learning right here tonight that is what you
are going to pay in July. But he is not here tonight and nobody
can tel1 you what you are going to pay the County and they cannot
even tell you in July or August or September or October, maybe November
and maybe by December they will get around to telling you. I appre-
ciated the comment on the disparity in License Rates, Councilman
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Mace: Continued:
Taylor, Mr. Baca, declined to advise you that.in the routine
billings that your City receives the.last announced auditors
rates for County Animal Control officers is $26.46 an hour.
That rate has been on that billing for about two years now.
It was a lower rate prior to that. I am assuming that after
two years of that rate, the rate near the $30 level is reason-
able to anticipate, but we don't know.
Taylor: That was just based on the comparison..the footnote
#9 stated that both of them was $1400, I mean 1400 hours, divided
the dollars by the hours it'came out to almost a two to one ratio.
Tury: I was curious about your pound area over there. You don't
seem to have a whole lot of extra space, as far as holding capability.
I don't°know how many animals we'would'be holding. What would do
to the strains on your facility?
Mace: That would do nothing. Because what you saw was both animals
that we are holding for adoption and stray animals, and approximately
have our population is being held for adoption. We don't like it....
but our primary purposes is to service'the cities in this area, in
our surrounding area. If we take in a City, this cuts down on the
space that we have available to hold dogs a'little longer. Sometimes
we hold dogs two weeks, three weeks and sometimes two months.
Tury: How about Patrol Vans. Would this strain your present capa-
bility?
Mace: As a matter of fact, one of the reasons, we are hurting now,
we have patrol qualified persons working in the kennels. If your
City was to chose our service for the following year we would not
hire a new patrol person,we have that 'person. We would take him
out of the kennels and off the part=time back-up work such as in_
Councilman Dennis's City. We would put him on full time. Except
your 1400 hours would not be full time, full time would be 2000
hours so this person would simply go on the road full time and.we
would hire probably 'a kennel person. Right-now, we are overquali-
fied with kennel personnel otherwise there is no problem.
Taylor: I would like to comment.on the question with the Grand
Jury. Page #2 on-the San Gabriel Valley Humane Society Report
that they gave us it states the recent Board of Supervisors mandate
that each City pay the entire net County. costs of its Contract
Animal Control program was a.positive response to the Grand Jury
audit committee finding that the County taxpayers have historically
subsidized County Animal Control services to Contract Cities. The
1982-83 fiscal year would be the first test of the County's ability
to drastically improve the efficiency of and reduce the cost of its
Animal Control Licensing services. From the proposal has been so
far is that they are going to cut the man hours which is in fact
service to Rosemead and we are still going to pay the same dollars
for less services, the way I see it so far. The last paragraph
states that the County proposal that your city's senior citizens
pitch in as volunteers in the County Dog License Program is not
cause for optimism. The Grand Jury Audit Committee stated that
the County was spending 66C to collect each dollar.of license revenue
in the spring of 1981. `This would require the City to collect $3.00
in license revenue in order to provide $1.00 worth of City Animal
Control Officers services at cost. To finance a 1400 hour officer
control program with a three to one license profit ration, the County
must sell approximately 11,520 dog licenses even if a senior citizens
volunteer group up the sales to 4200,the three to one ratio would
produce a short fall and City sur-charge of $29,297 at years end.
The County has yet to demonstrate the ability to provide 1400 animal
control officers hours at a net cost to less than $78,000. This is
based on a figure of $46,000 plus $32,000 surcharge. So your ques-
tion, Mr..Tury, about the number of hours, we don't necessarily get
those hours then.
Tury: That is what I tried to find out tonight. When I talked to
the San Gabriel Valley Humane Society, what is 1400 hours going to
cost me. Give me a bottom line. So I know we have so many hours
of patrol in the City. I thought we had that from the County, but
I found out tonight that we didn't have that from the County.
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Taylor: Yet, they are proposing what 1400 hours would cost us.
It is double.
Tury: I have a request for a brief recess and we will be right
back.
Tury: 1 will call the Meeting.back to order..IS there any more
questions at this point?
Mace: Mr. Mayor, I really had two primary points I want to make
tonight. One was to point out-some of the Contract disadvantages
or some of the disadvantages under the terms, literal terms of the
County Contract. The other is to correct a fundamental error in
arithmetic in calculating the cost comparisons.' I have explained
the problem to staff so I have to assume at this point, that staff
just disagrees: But basically, an Animal Control program is costed
out by analyzing three elements, the cost of field service, the
cost of shelter and the net revenue to be realized from licensing.
It is almost impossible to conduct a license sales program that
does not produce a net revenue. That is a revenue generating cata-
gory. So you normally do not place the cost of collecting licenses
in an analysis you simply put the net revenue in the analysis if
and only if that revenue will return to the Agency that is paying
the costs. The fundamental mistake with this cost comparison is
that revenue was shown returning to the City of Rosemead $54,000
you don't get a nickel of it. The second mistake was the revenue
figure was.gross and not net. Now, I have handed out highlighted
corrected cost comparison. I have dropped out the cost of licensing
from the top end of it so that when you get down to the total field
service cost, you have $69.,320 for the County program and $57,118
for the Humane Society program. Those are based in terms of the
Humane Society.program on hard predictable costs. Because they are
based on our master rate and not the contract costs. The County
cost is simply taking the County at its word with regard to the
cost of its animal control program. We don't believe it is going
to be that.cheap for them to.put a man in the-field and they are
going to finance it with net revenues that they generate by spend-
ing $2-:00 to $3.00. It should be born in mind that the only thing
that the County has to buy that animal control officer with is net
revenue not gross. On a two to one basis, net revenue. When we
get down to net cost to the City,we will have deducted net license
income that we would return to the City. We deduct nothing from
the County because they return nothing. You wind up with a program
...-the cost comparison has a bottom line $69,320 for the County
and $30,518 for the Humane Society. That is a substantial difference,
that is a real difference:. There has been figure juggling going on
in the past for one simple reason. Very fundamental, the Board of
Supervisors allowed it. They simply allowed it. They said you are
just swapping license revenues for animal control services. Well,
you weren't. You were letting the County take the license revenues
and the County taxpayers were subsidizing the Animal Control services
that came to your City. There was no way that ...as a matter of fact,
the Grand Jury said not a single Contract city was paying for the
services they received without a subsidy from the County Taxpayer.
What the Board of Supervisors have said as of this fiscal year,-
that is over. The County is going to have to provide Animal Control
services out of net License revenues. Now, I would hope that they
have improved their profit margins since the Grand Jury report in
April. We keep hearing that they have. They have started with a
two to one program and that two to one program...well regardless,
of that two to one program you are coming up with a $69,000 cost
if they are still on that'two to one program,youTare going to add
a surcharge on that because the Board of Supervisors have indicated
that they mean what they say. Maybe at'the end of the year you will
get off without a surcharge, but you better look at the $69,000
figure because that is what Animal Control officer cost is going
to be.
Taylor: Question about the Grand Jury Report again. Can we have
a copy of that by the next.meeting?
Tury: If you wait until we get done here, I am going to make a
suggestion and I think will probably answer your question.
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Mace: That,plus the contract comments were my main points that
I wanted to make if there are no further questions.
Tury: Thank you very much. Are there any more questions at this
point? If not, what I would like to suggest if I may, apparently
I don't think anyone here is ready to vote on this tonight. I
realize we have a contract termination problem and we will have to
work something out., I would like to suggest that we put this over
to the next meeting and at this point now I would like each and
every Councilman to say exactly what they would like available for
that meeting of June 9th. Responsible people for getting that in-
formation to the City Manager will have them to him by June 3rd,
the Thursday before the Meeting. Would that meet with everyone on
the Council's desires. Gary, would you like to start first and
present a list with exactly what you would like to have available
for that meeting.
Taylor: There are a couple of items that come to mind. During
that recess I talked with Mr. Tripepi about the monthly report
we get from.the County listing the number of animals and the
hours and I don't recall what else is on that summary sheet, but
that will.give us a quick run-down on what we have been paying
for the services. Also a copy of that Grand Jury Report if that
is possible to get in that time.
Tury: We have a copy of that monthly report here at City Hall
so that is not a problem to get. 0. K. the Grand Jury report.
Mace: I have.a copy. of that.
Tury: If you will give us a copy of that that would be fine.
That takes care of that.
Taylor: The other item,Mr. Mayor, is the actual dollars cost and
the revenue that we have received in the City in the past three
years.
Tury: Joey will you put that together?
Tripepi: What we are talking about is not the revenue received
by the City but.the revenue that has been derived by the County
through the License fees. Is that possible?
Tury: If we could have that.
Taylor: That would include whatever is the actual cost break-
down that the County is referring to in the proposal here for
the past three years. The actual rates not hypothetical.
Tripepi: The actual License rates for the past three years.
Imperial: I would like a breakdown of how we can go into our own
system. Mr. Tripepi already has some of that information he told
me. I would also like to know what kind of service we are going
to get in the evenings and on week-ends from both of the facilities.
Cichy: I believe I would like a copy of.the transcript of tonights
discussion and comments for the Council and for"the people from the
Humane Society and the Joint Powers Consortium and the County.pro-
bably by Friday if possible.
Taylor: Verbatim'Minutes, agreed?
Tury: Fine, on the Animal Control part.
Cichy: And a copy of the Joint Powers Authority Agreement that
the other cities have and by-laws relative to the function of that
Joint Powers Authority specifically as to the authority.given to
the individual city members and the voting members that sit on
that board.
Imperial: I am assuming of course, if we did not go with the County
and we did not go into our own type system and we did go with the
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society that we would have representation
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Tury: Pat, do you have anything?
Cleveland: Mr. Mayor, I think they have covered it pretty well.
I don't see anything additional that I need.
Tury: I am likewise. I feel about the same and.if anyone else
would like anything else for that meeting....
Tripepi: I would like a slight
was mentioned by Mr.Cichy about
able by Friday and he mentioned
those minutes. He doesn't mean
available prior to being approv
meeting.
clarification on one item that
the verbatim minutes being avail-
a number of individuals to receive
those verbatim minutes to be
ad by the Council at the next
Cichy: I would like a discussion at the next meeting.
Tripepi: The verbatim minutes would be on your next Agenda to be
approved, I assume you would not want verbatim minutes passed
out unless they are official adopted minutes.
Taylor: I agree with that I don't question if they were given out
but they have not been approved. They will be available for com-
ment at.the next meeting. I don't object to that either. When
the Agenda packet is ready, but we do have a problem there and they
are given out as minutes of the meeting, I am assuming they would
be without question and hopefully they would be but they would
actually not be minutes that we have approved.
Cichy: Mr. Mayor, I believe we could send them out marked "Not
Approved'.'.. The public has a right to listen to the tapes of the
meetings.
Tripepi: Just mark them as not official minutes and that would
cover it.
Tury: O. K. if there is no more questions on it, we have had a
pretty thorough discussion and everyone knows where everyone is
coming from and what information we need to make the decision
and we will make the decision at the next meeting, gentlemen.
If anyone doesn't some information that they have not requested
then tough.
V-B ENCINITA SCHOOL PROBLEM
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that a memorandum had
been received from the Sheriff's Department and the arrests were
outlined and some citations that were issued and he stated that
he was pleased to report that there was additional activity just
this week-end and there were four incidents at Encinita School,
and a list of the Garage sales were also covered by a Sheriffs
memorandum regarding citations for violators. The Sheriffs de-
partment is going to continue to do these patrols until the pro-
blem is abated.
Mayor Tury inquired about the additional signs to be placed
at Rosemead Park.
The City Manager stated there would be six additional signs
put in at Rosemead Park and that would give us a total of ten.
Gary Taylor requested that the schools be contacted to have
some of those signs posted on the two small diamonds on the school
property. He stated that the City maintenance people clean it up
well, but the school property is the major problem when it comes
to cleaning up the broken beer bottles and such.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that he talked with
Horace Stringham about the problem and he did indicate that right
in the corridors there is a. problem and he seemed very pleased
that special patrols and the follow up that has been done up to
date because of the action that has been taken.
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V-C ROSEMEAD BOULEVARD BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that the Consultant
is not able to be present tonight, so he requested that the Item
be deferred.
Mayor Tury suggested that this item be held over for a study
session instead a regular Council Meeting so that additional time
could be spent.
Councilman Taylor agreed with the suggestion and he also
requested some 35mm slides taken of the medians on Rosemead Blvd.
Mayor Tury set the Study Session for Rosemead Beautification
for immediately following the Budget Session on Saturday, June 12,
1982.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
V-D POLICY GUIDELINES FOR HANDYMAN REHABILITATION PROGRAM
This Item was also requested to be held over to the next
regular Meeting.
VI. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Councilman Taylor inquired about the transcript of the
Cal Fed Public Hearing.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that the transcript
has been ordered and is being prepared and Cal Fed will pay for
it.
B. Councilman Taylor inquired about the Bill SB2087 intro-
cued by Senator Montoya pertaining to increase in rates and pas-
sing it on to the consumers.',
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that he would request
a copy of the Bill and an analysis if one is available for the
Council.
C. Councilman Imperial commented on a Senator Montoya's
speach in Palm Springs at the Contract Cities Seminar which he
commented that he was going to bring the Cogeneration issue to
the State Senate because in his mind the Rosemead City Council
had made a political decision and voted against Cogeneration for
the City of Rosemead.
He felt that Senators Montoya's comments regarding Rosemead
were completely uncalled for and he requested a Resolution be pre-
pared endorsed by all the Councilmembers that would be sent to
Contract Cities, League of California Cities and the Independent
Cities requesting of the State Senate to allow us to have home-rule
and not be forced into doing what the State decides.
Mayor Tury suggested that Councilman Imperial get together
with the City Attorney to prepare such a Resolution.
D. SB 53
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that a letter was re-
ceived from the City of Norco regarding SB 53 which was introduced
by Senator Montoya which provides for the detachment of land from
a City and annexation to another City over the objections of the
City losing the land.
Mayor Tury stated that the Committee is hearing this bill
tomorrow morning and he requested authorization to send a telegram
voicing the opposition of the City of Rosemead.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL; SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that a telegram be sent voicing unanimous opposition to SB 53 as
it'relates;:to:a change in the annexation process.
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
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Councilman Imperial requested that Joe Gonsalves, Legisla-
tive Representative, be notified to put special imput on this
item.
E. Robert T. Dickey, Assistant City Manager, commented
on the street contruction on Fern and Newmark is progressing
again since the labor dispute has been resolved. A progress
payment was requested by the Contractor and the Assistant Mana-
ger requested authorization on the pre-issuance of a warrant
in the amount of $41,869.04.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CICHY
that the Warrant in the amount of $41,869.04 be issued to Gentry
Bros. Inc.. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL.COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
VII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Holly Knapp, 8367 E. Whitmore Street, inquired about the
gambling ordinances within the City of Rosemead. She stated that
in Monterey Park there is a Chinese Game with tiles being played
and it is very disturbing.
Robert L. Kress, City Attorney, stated that the City Code
has a very large definition of gambling and at the time it was
adopted it-'covered everything, but he stated that he would look
it over prior to the next meeting and discuss it with the Sheriffs
Department to make sure that it has been covered. He stated that
household gambling is very difficult to deal with.
Holly Knapp stated that she was concerned with the Condo
Ordinance No. 545 and inquired if this puts an end to the mora-
torium on Condominiums.
Mayor Tury stated that the Ordinance will take effect in
30 days, and puts an end to the moratorium, but that this ordinance
is a very restrictive one, and it will get us the best development
we can.
B. Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that the Chamber
of Commerce is trying to activate a group called the Ambassadors and
Jim. Butler has asked that every member of the Council be invited to
Chamber Mixer, 5:30 to 6:30 at the Garvey Lawn Mower Service, 7744
Garvey Avenue on Thursday, May 27, 1982.
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, complimented Lt. John Phillips
on the work being done on the week-ends at the parks and at the
schools.
C. Mayor Tury reminded everyone of the Sports Day honoring
Sheriff Sherman Block, Saturday, June 5, 1982-An Bradbury, and
the Memorial Day Service at the Savannah Memorial Cemetary, Monday
morning at 10:00 a. m.
D. Bill Dennis, Councilman of Temple City, congratulated
Councilman Imperial on his comments that he made at the Contract
Cities Seminar regarding Senator Montoya's comments.' He stated
that sometimes Senator Montoya forgets that he is not represent
Sacramento, but that he represents the same constituancy as we do.
E. Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar, commented on the fact that some
times when people get into politics they seem to forget who voted
them in.
Juan Nunez inquired if the contractors were suppose to wet the
ground so that the dust would be.under control_on Del Mar.
Mayor Tury stated that it was part of the contract and the staff
would check on it.
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Juan Nunez, also, commented on the sidewalk that is coming
in from Newmark to Del Mar and will probably be torn down.
Robert Dickey, Assistant City Manager, stated that there
needs to be a temporary installation there to control the water
flowing down. The installation of drains of the main line on
Del Mar will not be made until such time the Street Improvement
is installed on Del Mar so in the meantime we have reinstalled
the drainage system on both Fern and Newmark but it doesn't
have a connection until the main line is in so a temporary por-
tion of curb and gutter had to be placed at the end of the street.
It is less expensive to put it in concrete when you have concrete
people there than it is to get a special asphalt mix.
Juan Nunez stated that there was a truck route sign that is
kind of low and wanted to bring_'it to the attention of the Council.
John Mayerski, Traffic Engineer, stated that was the only
spot for that sign as the signal itself would be in the way if
it were raised a foot or two.
The Council Meeting was adjourned to Wednesday, June 9, 1982
at 8:00 p. m. since Tuesday is Primary Election Day and a Holiday.
Respectfully submitted:
~C~M e ra V
City (Clerk
APPROVED:
MAYOR
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