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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
ROSEMEAD CITY COUNCIL
AUGUST 14, 1979 AT 8:00 P. M.
The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead City Council was.called
to order by Mayor Taylor at 8:00 p. m., in the Council Chambers
of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Blvd., Rosemead, California.
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The Pledge to the Flag was led by Councilman Hunter.
The Invocation was delivered by Reverend Mc Gregor.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present; Councilmen Hunter, Imperial, Tury, and Mayor Taylor
Absent: Councilman Cichy
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - July 23, 1979 - Study Session
July 24, 1979 - Regular Meeting
Mayor Taylor requested.that the Minutes of the Study Session
of July 23, 1979 be deferred to later in the meeting.
Mayor Taylor requested that in the Minutes of the Council
Meeting of July 24, 1979 there be an addition of words on page
#7 - CC-D - first paragraph to read as follows: "Mayor Taylor
inquired about the difference of crosswalks at this intersection
and those on San Gabriel Boulevard where they were requested to
be removed."
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER
that the Minutes of July 24, 1979 be approved as corrected. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
I. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Marion Rizzo, 4416 Bartlett Avenue, stated that she did not
want the street to become a cul-de-sac because it would take too
much of their property. She wanted to be on record that she is
opposed to the cul-de-sac but is very much in favor of improvement
of that street.
B. Terry Moya, 3053 N. San Gabriel Blvd., stated that his rent
had been increased $100 per month for trailer space and inquired
if the Council could do anything about it.
Mayor Taylor stated that the City of Rosemead did not have a
rent control ordinance, and at this time there was nothing that
the City could do to limit his rent increase.
11 Mrs. Tingley, 3053 N. San Gabriel, landlady of the trailer
park, stated that the reason they raised Mr. Moya's rent was that
he recently had a child and the mobile home park is-not suitable
for children and they had requested that he leave as there are no
other children in the park.
II. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER NEW SIGN ORDINANCE
REGULATING ON-PREMISE SIGNS & BILLBOARDS FOR THE CITY
OF ROSEMEAD (SIGN PORTION)
Mayor Taylor stated that Councilman Cichy had requested that
the Sign Ordinance Hearing be held over so.:that he could be present.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
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B. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE,
BY REFERENCE, AMENDING L.A. COUNTY ORDINANCE, #4729,
ENTITLED "ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE"
Mayor Taylor stated that the Public Hearing was open and
inquired if there was anyone in the audience who would care to
speak regarding the Hearing.
No one came forward.
A representive of the L. A. County Animal Control Section
inquired if there were any questions that needed answering.
There were no questions.
Mayor Taylor closed the Public Hearing
ORDINANCE NO. 505
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD ADOPTION BY RE-
FERENCE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 50022.2 OF THE GOVERNMENT
CODE, LOS ANGELES COUNTY ORDINANCE NO.4729 AMENDING
THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES "ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE"
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL,
that the reading in full be waived.
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMB
The Mayor declared said motion duly
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL,
that Ordinance No. 505 be adopted.
AYES: Councilmen Imperial,
NAYES; Councilman Hunter
ABSENT: Councilman Cichy
Whereupon the Mayor declared
so ordered.
III. LEGISLATIVE
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
Vote resulted;
ERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
carried and so ordered.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
Vote resulted:
Tury and Mayor Taylor
said motion duly carried and
A. . ORDINANCE NO. 504 AMENDING SECTION 8110 OF MUNICIPAL
CODE RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS, CURBS,
GUTTERS AND INSTALLATION OF TREES
ORDINANCE NO. 504
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
AMENDING SECTION 8110 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE WITH RESPECT
TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS, CURBS, GUTTERS AND THE
INSTALLATION OF STREET TREES.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that Ordinance No. 504 be adopted and the reading in full be
waived. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
B. RESOLUTION NO. 79-47 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS - 1978-79
RESOLUTION NO. 79-47
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS &c DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $37,152.09
NUMBERED 29,989 THROUGH 30,048 INCLUSIVELY
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL
that Resolution No. 79-47 be adopted and the reading in full be
waived. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
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C. RESOLUTION NO. 79-48 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS - 1979-80
RESOLUTION NO. 79-48
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS IN THE SUM $120,622.71
NUMBERED 4421, 4422, 4425 THRU 4442 & 4500 THRU 4552
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER
that Resolution No. 79-48 be adopted and the reading in full be
waived. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-A APPROVAL OF WALL & RELEASE OF FAITHFUL PERFORMANCE
BOND TRACT #31238
CC-C APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT #37066 - NEW AVENUE
CC-D RED CURB; 4224 ROSEMEAD BLVD.
CC-E RED CURB: SOUTHSIDE OF MARSHALL STREET & IVAR
CC-G APPROVAL OF BID FOR CLEANING UP OF SUB-STANDARD
PROPERTY AT 3421 LA FAYETTE
CC-H AUTHORIZATION TO SOLICIT PROPOSAL FOR APPRAISAL
OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY ON ECKHART STREET
CC-I APPROVAL OF EXTENSION OF STREET MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT
CC-J AUTHORIZATION TO ATTEND PLANNING SEMINAR IN SANTA ANA
OCTOBER 1, 1979
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the.foregoing Consent Calendar Items be approved. Vote re-
sulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
CC-B ACCEPTANCE OF APPRAISAL OF N/E CORNER OF SAN GABRIEL
AND GARVEY CORNER RADIUS & AUTHORIZATION FOR ENGINEER
TO NEGOTIATE
Mayor Taylor stated that he has been opposed to the particu-
lar method of widening this corner.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the appraisal of the N/E corner of San Gabriel and Garvey
radius & authorization for engineer to negotiate be approved.
Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Hunter, Imperial, and',Tury
NAYES: Mayor Taylor
ABSENT: Councilman Cichy
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so
ordered.
CC-F APPROVAL OF NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS FOR HCDA PROJECTS
Councilman Imperial inquired what projects are being consi-
dered. I
Mayor Taylor stated that the projects have already been ap-
proved through the original application, and this is strictly the
approval of the negative declarations.
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MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TURY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HUNTER
that the Negative Declarations for the HCDA Projects be approved.
Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
V. MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION
A. APPEAL FOR PARCEL MAP #12355
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that in.the Planning
Commission's opinion the pad in lot #3 is too small and the set-
back requirements cannot be met, and the driveway was less than
the required 20 feet.
Kareem Nikoui, 6322 Avon Street, San Gabriel, stated that
he felt that there are many lots the same size or smaller in
the area that the Council had approved, and is requesting the
same consideration for his site.
Jafar Jalalot also requested that the Council grant approval
of the parcel map, and stated that there were other properties
in the area that were allowed to build on smaller pads.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN:IMP.ERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the appeal to approve Parcel Map #12355 be denied. Vote
resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Taylor stated that the applicants could go back to
the Planning Commission with a change from one story building
to a two story building for possible approval.
B. ASSIGNMENT OF CONTRACTS FOR CETA PROGRAM
Mayor Taylor stated that the reason that he had deferred the
minutes of the study session of July 23, 1979 was because he felt
there was a discrepancy in one of the statements, and he requested
that the minutes be transcribed verbatim.
There being no objection, it was so ordered.
Frank O'Sullivan, West San Gabriel Manpower Consortium.Admini-
strator, answered the many questions that the Mayor asked regarding
the CETA programs.
Doug Shaw, Mid-Valley Manpower Consortium, also answered the
questions that were directed to him regarding the administration
of the Mid-Valley Consortium.
Juan Nunez, 2704 Del Mar, inquired if the problems with Bien-
venidos had been brought to the Council's attention.
Mayor Taylor stated that they had been made aware of the pro-
blems.
Councilman Hunter stated that he would oppose the West San
Gabriel Manpower Consortium because he would rather keep the
money:in our supervisorial district.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY MAYOR TAYLOR -
that the CETA Funding'through'the West- San:;Gabriel'.Val,ley_, Man-power
Consortium, be recommended: Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Imperial,
NAPES: Councilman Hunter
ABSENT: Councilman Cichy
Whereupon the Mayor declared
so ordered.
Tury and Mayor Taylor
said motion duly carried and
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"VERBATIM"
B. ASSIGNMENT OF CONTRACTS FOR CETA PROGRAM
Mayor Taylor stated that there was a letter in the packet from
Mr. John Farley who is from the Department of Community Development
County of Los Angeles. It states, it is for Mr. Lomeli,"you had.
inquired as to departmental assessment practices in our Public Ser-
vices Employment Program. We do not conduct the kind of assessments
you are requesting on a regular basis. I can tell you that on the
basis of their performance over the past several years, both Mid-
Valley Manpower Consortium and West San Gabriel Valley Consortium
are competent operators of our CETA PSE program. You would be
assured that your City will receive competent service of whatever
choise you request; Mid-Valley Manpower Consortium has a considerably
greater administative and funding base, if that is a factor in your
consideration."
Mayor Taylor stated that"in the first paragraph where it states
that regular assessments are not made, it is his understanding that
all the programs all the programs have to be evaluated every year
and if not some of them are on a six month review program. The second
paragraph;'I''can:t.ell you that on the basis of their performance over
the past several years that Mid-Valley Manpower Consortium and West
San Gabriel Valley Consortium are competent operators" I think that
the Council can recall that a year ago or maybe a little less there
was quite a controversy in some of the internal problems of job place-
ment and such in Mid-Valley. I don't know who Mr. John Farley is,
but both of these statements seem to be contradictory to what I know
for a fact. Maybe not the specifics of what did happen, but I feel
that it contradictory for what did take place and the assessment
programs that are handled quite regularly. I had asked a couple
of weeks ago that this Council be given the most recent assessment
of the different agencies and. to this day this is the only reply
that I have received, that these assesssments are not available.
When Mr. O'Sullivan was here, he informed me that his rating was
already out, and I don't have that one.
Mayor Taylor inquired if Mr. Lomeli had a comment.
Mr. Lomeli stated that the fi.rst.paragraph.refers to:the.fact
the County does not conduct assessments on Title II D program and
the Title VI Project Program, which is the type of CETA Program
the City is going into at the time. The County does a regular
assessment on the Title II B Program which the City at this point
and time does not have a contract for. So the rating for that
program would not effect the City.
Mayor Taylor inquired "if from what you just said is it true
that none of these programs are regulated other than just II B.
Mr. Lomeli stated that was correct., and said that there was
a recent assessment done on the Title II D program and Title VI
program as far as contract compliance, but is not an assessment
as far as job development and job placement. Contract compliance
merely reflects back on whether the contractors are competent as
far as contracting. Neither agency;. at this point in time as far
as I know, having had conversation with both directors last week,
didn't have copies of the current assessment, and both directors
are here tonight, Mr. Shaw and Mr. O'Sullivan.
Mayor Taylor stated that he had made the comment that he had
asked Mr. O'Sullivan as far as the actually rating goes. "Mr. 0'
Sullivan, can you tell us, maybe I'm mistaken, what rating you have
as far as your agency is concerned, your consortium?"
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that his ratings in the last few years
have been 93% out of 1.00%, and the rating schedule and assessment
by the County is here.
Mayor Taylor inquired what that rating actually compose? Mr.
Lomeli just mentioned two`---
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that it covers on the job training and
classroom training, all. work experience.
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Mr. O'Sullivan stated "right", and it should cover everything.
If you're going to rate anything, you should rate them all.
Mayor Taylor "Does that program do that rating?"
Mr. O'Sullivan "It doesn't summer programs and other types
of things, but the Department of Labor intends to see to it that
its done. If youre going to spend funds from the Taxpayers and
rate one program then you should rate them all. In other words
if youre going to spend money and you expect performance then
they should be rated."
Mr. Lomeli "At this point in time, the Title II B and Title
VI project program have not been rated, correct"
Mr. O'Sullivan "No, but any Public Service Employment from
now on will be rated.very heavy, or they will not be funded."
Mayor Taylor inquired "the report that you have in your hand
there, as far as your rating, you mentioned on the job training,
classroom thing and such. How many programs do you actually have?
You say there are six or seven different programs."
Mr. O'Sullivan "we have four"
Mayor Taylor "How many are rated in that book?"
Mr. O'Sullivan "ore have four.'. We have work experience out
of school, work experience in school, on the job training, class-
room training."
Mayor Taylor stated that we are not really proposing a new
program in the sense that what monies would be allocated would
come under the same rating system that we already have.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated "I believe that all programs that are
funded under the City of Rosemead will be rated roughly according
to the Department of Labor regulations."
Mayor Taylor stated that the point that he was trying to
make was that he was asking for ratings and that seems to cover
all your programs.
Mr. O'Sullivan "It does, and they have all been rated. So
I just have to bring the manual."
Mr, Lomeli stated that the Title II B and the Title VI project
program have not been rated.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated "Yes, Public Service has not been rated."
Mr. Lomeli stated "What you are referring to are four components
that under a title that the City of Rosemead does not have currently.
Mayor Taylor stated "I am not asking for something that we do
not have, I am asking for current programs."
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that the City of Rosemead is responsible
for all monies spent within the City of Rosemead regardless of the
title and regardless of who conducts it, if they want to do it.
Mr. Dilkes, City Attorney, stated that there are a myriad of
different titles. Apparently, there is a rating system for one of
them which is a program that we do not have. We don't employ CETA
for one way or the other. There is apparently, no system that exists
for evaluating performance in the titles that we do have. (There is
a very good rating system apparently for Chevys and the program that
we are involved with deals with Fords.)
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Mayor Taylor stated that this would have to be claried be-
tween Mr. O'Sullivan and Mr. Shaw. Do you both have ratings of
the same programs? In other words, what you refer to Mr. O'Sulli-
van, does Mr. Shaw have similar ratings? That way we can look
at the ratings and see whether we have the program or not, we want
to see the current ratings of which consortium is doing a better
job.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated "Both of our Consortiums have been
rated by the County and they have been rated every three months..
The County has not obviously submitted that to you;.but the
other problem is of course, you are talking about presumably,
Public Service Employment, but that is just one facet of the CETA
program and it is important facet, but other money is spent,
other money that has been allocated to Rosemead have been spent
by other agencies that may or may hot be in the City of Rosemead.
For instance you have Bienvenidos, you may have others. Those
funds should be under the direct control. of the City and they
are not."
Mayor Taylor inquired if there were any questions or comments
from the Council?
Mayor Taylor stated that we had been with Mid-Valley two years
ago and Mr. O'Sullivan as far as your concerned I think it has been
about at least three years since the CETA programs first--not the
CETA program itself, but a selection of the Agencies or Consor-
tiums came before the Council, and I happen to lean towards the
Nest San Gabriel Valley because of the fact that I know that the
report that you have given us previously that out of 119 agencies
you are rated no. 1. on it. I have to lean towards that. As far
as I'm concerned, being no. 1, in trying to help the youth in the
CETA program to try to get into a program who has the highest rat-
ing."
Councilman Hunter inquired if he said "west" maybe "I mis-
understood you... Are you talking about the Alhambra Consortium?"
Mayor Taylor "Yes, the West San Gabriel Valley,. not the east."
Councilman Hunter stated that the Memo stated "East San Gab-
riel Valley".
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that they are called "Nest San Gabriel
Valley, Alhambra and Monterey Park".
Mayor Taylor stated "If you recall, Mr. Hunter, a year ago,
we had gone through a lot of emotions of trying to decide which
consortium to join and we were given considerable information
directly from the County saying that we had an August 31st cut-
off, and we in fact met that date and made a selection more or
less at that time and then the County came back with some letters
saying---I must clarify by saying the first letter we got stating
the dead line date so we met the dead line date, and then thev
turned right around again from the County saying that it was in-
valid because we should have done it in the Spring of the year.
So we are pertaining to the Nest San Gabriel Valley and the East
San Gabriel Valley we have had no dealings with whatsoever."
Councilman Hunter stated "Mr. O'Sullivan you represent the
Nest San Gabriel Valley Consortium and Mr. Shaw you represent the
Mid Valley Consortium.- Mr. Mayor I am following there. You were
leaning toward the Nest San Gabriel Consortium. I would oppose
that., Mr. O'Sullivan is that in fact in Supervisor Ward's super-
visorial district or Mr. Schabarum's. Where are you located?
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that he serves two Supervisorial Dis-
tricts, Mr. Wards and Mr. Edleman.
Councilman Hunter inquired what Supervisorial. District Mr.
Shaw serves. .
Mr. Shaw stated that he serves one District and that is Mr.
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Councilman Hunter stated "I would have to vote "no" on
the west, if that's what we are going to call it, and Mr. O'Sulli-
van that is not a slam to you sir at all. In fact, if I were
voting on you two gentlemen I would be remiss in my duties because
both of you gentlemen are replaceable, the offices which you hold
are not. My belief is that we should keep the money in our Super-
visorial District. You wanted to correct the minutes because Mr.
Ward and Mr. Schabarum have a difference. I don't give a hoot
about their two differences, but what I do care about is the area
in which this City is totally involved and that is the 1st Super-
visorial District. So, Mr. Mayor, if you were making the motion
and that is the way you were leaning toward the "west" then I
would oppose it."
Mayor Taylor stated that as far as the "and I intend on cor-
responding with Mr. Schabarum in the sense that he would be recep-
table and Mr. Tripepi there was some comment made about Mr. Scha-
barum did not really have a preference he wanted the City to go
ahead and make a recommendation. The money will stay within the
City of Rosemead whether it be through an Agency within the boun-
daries of Mr. Ward's Supervisorial District all the slots will go
to the Rosemead youth. It is just a question of a higher rated
program. I feel that West San Gabriel Valley has that program
just because of the record we were given. It is not going out of
this Supervisorial District #1. Mr. O'Sullivan clarified that
the money still would be spent strictly on the youth that.are in
the City of Rosemead
Mr. O'Sullivan spoke away from the microphone and impossible
to transcribe.
Councilman Imperial. stated "I have problems placing any
relevance between the Supervisorial Districts and where this money
is going to be spent and this money has to be spent in Rosemead.
I don't feel that we are going to be penalized in the future be-
cause we happen to engage a contractor for the slots that happens
not to be in our Supervisorial District. I kind of equate this
to the City handing a Contract for a job to someone outside of
the City because he gave his the best or lowest bid. I really
don't have any problems with that or the West Valley Manpower
Consortium whatsoever. We have had problems in the City, I ex-
pressed my reservations during the Meeting of the 23rd of July,
on any involvement with what we have had in the past, and what
we will be getting in the future. I really have some fears with
this and therefore I see no problems with trying the West Valley
Consortium. We haven't tried them and they are not involved.with
anyone that has been here before and I can certainly recommend
trying them. You can take that as a form of a motion"
Mayor Taylor stated that he would second the motion.
Councilman Tury inquired of Mr. Lomeli that the City of Rose-
mead would pull out of ChTA,then why are we being asked where to
put the money. Obviously, it will go back to the County and they
will put it where they want to anyway,
Mr. Lomeli stated that this is just a recommendation from
the City to the County.
Mayor Taylor said "that Mr, Shaw had stated in the Study
Session that if the Council did not make a recommendation the
County could then chose to put it anywhere. Whoever had the most
influence with the County or whoever the County decided that is
where it would actually go, because we did not give.them a recom-
mendation. That is why I fee]. so strongly that we have got to
give them that recommendation,"
Councilman Hunter stated "Your last statement really put into
perspective what I was trying to say. Our Supervisorial District
is controlled by Mr. Schabarum. Now if you didn't believe that
would not have any bearing on then you last statement doesn't hold
water, about the Supervisors and how much influence they have and
the fact that we are making a recommendation. If this has no in-
fluence then why make a recommendation in the first place."
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Mayor Taylor stated "I believe it does have influence"
Councilman Hunter stated "you bet, that's why I think we
should stay in our own Supervisori.al District".
Mayor Taylor stated "It has influence on how it would actu-
ally be spent".
Councilman Hunter stated"It goes deeper than that and both
of these gentlemen know it and you get a Supervisor on your but
out there and you are going to have some problems. We know that
in our City, we have had to go to the Supervisors many times for
assistance and street projects and what have you, and I personally
slap in Schabarum's face. We may not agree with him on each and
all of his philosophies but we had better agree on where the money
comes from. Personally, I can'.t see it going another Supervisors
district."
Mayor Taylor stated "I don't think Mr. Schabarum is the type
of person that is going to hold a vendetta against the City of
Rosemead because we chose to pick what we thought was the best
program to serve the youth of. Rosemead disregarding the Super-
visorial District. If he is going to intimidate us with that
type of thing. I just don't believe he would."
Councilman Hunter "You might be right. I agree with you
he is that type of man. He is a very honorable man, but that
is not the question. I think our loyalties are in question."
Mayor Taylor stated "I made the statement that I intend on
corresponding with him tomorrow on why I took the stand I did
take on this."
Councilman Hunter stated "I hope you will reserve a para-
graph for my feelings."
Mayor Taylor stated that he will certainly get the feelings
of the Council, but I think it is the best thing for the youth
of the City that we pick the best program or give it a try anyway.
Councilman Hunter stated "I think I know how the vote will
go but I have to ask one more question. It is really immaterial
to me where it goes other than a question of loyalty. If you are
so adamant of getting the best possible program for the youth of
Rosemead, where are your ratings."
Mayor Taylor stated "I have the ratings"
Councilman Hunter stated "I would like some specifics".
Would they employ more of our youth? Would Mid-Valley have the
same number of slots ?
Mayor Taylor stated that would both have the same number of
slots.
Councilman Hunter inquired "Can one consortium pay a higher
price or higher wage than the other?"
Mayor Taylor stated "No but they can administer differently
and evaluated by other governmental agencies that can tell. which
one is performing the best functions, and based upon that rating,
that is what. I am basing my vote on."
Councilman Hunter stated "My argument is not with you Mr. Mayor
but with the Agencies that make these ratings. You are looking at
just billions and billions of dollars that are not seen any more.
They go alphabetically--what number are we Marty, D or E, and that
is how they confuse everybody. They add a number to it and give
them a new set of guidelines and rules to it and I don't think
even the accounting office can tell you what is going on. I find
it very difficult to rate these agencies as far as helping the
youth of Rosemead. When you say it is a better program then I
sav I would like to see it proved."
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Mayor Taylor stated "I say administration"
Councilman Tury inquired "Where are the ratings; I haven't
seen the ratings. Mr. O'Sullivan says he has the highest rating,
and Mr. Shaw may say the same thing"
Mr. Shaw stated that he does not have his ratings with him.
The ratings that he has in the II B program which is OJT and
classroom training and work experience, in OJT we are on proba-
tion. We have three organizations funded in OJT, Bassett Barrio
Counsel which defunded by the County of Los Angeles.
Mayor Taylor inquired how long have they been in your program?
Mr. Shaw stated two years. We have funded them for the past
two years. UAW this year, we defunded them under our own guidelines
because of the lack of performance of that agency and another.Agency
called Inner-Community which is in Baldwin Park. Because of those
problems that we have had with those agencies because of defunding
of those agencies, we are not performing as we should in OJT com-
ponant.
Mayor Taylor inquired who ordered those agencies defunded?
Inner Community and UAW were defunded by my Board of Directors
Mr. Shaw stated, and Bassett Barrio we would have done the same
thing, but we were asked to hold off because the County was inves-
tigating them and when they recommended defunding we followed suit
and defunded them also. Mr. Shaw stated that they are on probation
on OJT and in their {York Experience program the score is 997o and in
Classroom training program the score is in the 80's. Mr. O'Sullivan
stated that he was in 93% in all components, but it fluctuates.
Unfortunately, as Mr. Dilkes explained in his analogy in that you
are comparing Chevy's with Fords. The II B program basically has
four components but in the PSE program you are talking about jobs
where you are placing people in community agencies whether it is
City Government, Federal Government. It is a different animal. A
different type of program. It is unfortunate that we don't have
a rating system from the County of Los Angeles to go by. The only
rating system that we have, and it would have been nice to been
able to give a complete presentation. To give a complete presen-
tation on the PSE program, as it deals with training components,
deals with placement of jobs, skill levels and coordination of
participants with jobs. There is a whole matrix there that is .
much different than the II B program. The II B program ratings
system that you are talking about.
Mayor Taylor stated that is the only rating that the both of
you have that we can look at to make a comparison.
Mr. Shaw stated that in the classroom ratings they are in the
807o and in the work experience in the 997o and in the OJT in the 60%
and we are on probation there.
Mayor Taylor inquired if Mr. O'Sullivan was on probation on
any program?
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that they defunded Bassett Barrio two
years ago.
Mayor Taylor inquired why they defunded them?
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that he made up his own mind to defund
them.
Mayor Taylor stated that was what he meant' by Administration.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that Bassett Barrio dial not perform and
they gave them 6 months notice and also told Bienvenidos the same
thing, but they happen to let Bienvenidos go a little longer only
because they happen to have great confidence in the Executive Direc-
tor, Alike Sakamoto. They got their books mixed up and they did not
produce. They defunded CIIRA, OIC and Bassett Barrio and couple
of others.because they could not produce.within six months you will
have the money taken away from you and we are going to give it to
someone else who can do the job. CM 8-14-79
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Mayor Tayl stated that the program the same, but I am
basing it on thorecord of the administrates of the program. As
far as I am concerned the West San Gabriel Valley is running a
better program.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that according to our plan with the
County the should\'''hitting 80% and we were hitting 75%, but that
is because our classroom training was good enough so they gave
us another $120,000. The County was late, but they finally got
going in November, but when they give someone an additional$1_20,000
it is difficult to get the thing moving so our classroom training
was a little slow, but we told every agency very simply that you
double your enrollment, you'll get more people and you will get
those people on the job as soon as you can. Person.by person.by
person, in other words you are not going to sit there for three
or four months. If they can do the job then get them out to do
it. We were lucky to get the $120,000 but it does make a problem.
It makes a problem with the classroom training and trying to in-
crease various schools. At any rate we figure that generally
speaking we are getting 507o higher than we intended to do.training
and ge't'ting jobs. At the rate we are going we should hit about
99% total expenditures and we will exceed our program by about 500.
Mayor Taylor thanked Mr. O'Sullivan.
Mayor Taylor stated that we have gone through two different
programs already and I can only say that if this Council doesn't
think that West San Gabriel Valley is doing a good job, it may
be back here next year as far as going back to the County but at
least they should be entitled to a chance to see what they can do
with it.
Mr. Shaw stated that he would like to clarify one thing and
he would make it short. "Last year the Bassett Barrio was funded
from us by $150,000 they not only met that obligation with quality
type of work and exceeded it by $1.2,000. They did a very good job
for us.last year. Bassett Barrio was doing a very good job this
year because we monitor that program, we monitor all of our pro-
grams on a monthly basis. We held off on Bassett Barrio because
we knew the County was going through that process and when the
County made their decision we followed that decision. We would
have done the same thing but we Icrasw that the County was going
through it and we waited for them to finish, then we followed suit
with Bassett Barrio. On the defunding procedure we have defunded
six agencies this year, and those six agencies were defunded be-
cause they did not perform and this is an implementation that I
have put in since I have been administrator of the program. We
have an evaluation committee now that evaluates every program that
applies to us whether it is PSE, II B , or IV B any of the pro-
grams and evaluation committee is made up of City Managers and
City representatives like the gentlemen from the City of Hope.
So the type of program that we run administratively is very tight."
Juan Nunez, 2704 Del Mar, inquired who audits these programs?
Are there others that audit these programs other than these gentle-
men? He stated that he was under the impression that Bassett Bar-
rio was in some kind of trouble in fact Bienvenidos, Mike Sakamoto,
was running sort of a private enterprise with Bassett Barrio.
Leasing equipment to them that was to be operated at Bienvenidos.
Another thing, the last meeting be attended for Bienvenidos the
new director was subpeona'd because so that could find out where
he was purchasing some type of paint for anti-graffiti or to check
the coop about a month and half ago. He wanted to make sure the
Council was aware of this.
Mayor Taylor stated that he was sure that both Mr. Shaw and
Mr. O'Sullivan both know about the Consortiums problems that have
been going on, and he added that many of the reports have been
received not only from the newspapers but other sources about the
Bassett Barrio and Bienvenidos.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY MAYOR TAYLOR
that CETA Funding through the West San Gabriel Valley Consor-
tium be recommended. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilman Imperial, Tury and Mayor Taylor
NAYES: Councilman Hunter
ABSENT: Councilman Cichy
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and CM 8-14-
so ordered. Page #11
Mayor Taylor stated that he will correspond with Supervisor
Schabarum regarding the CETA Contracts, and Councilman Hunter re-
quested that his feelings also be expressed in this letter and
a copy of the letter be given to him.
C. DISCUSSION OF ENGINEERING PROCEDURES ON STREET
IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
Mayor Taylor requested that the addition of words be placed
in the procedures regarding sidewalks to read as follows:
"Any existing legally, properly installed sidewalk.which
does not meet this criteria will be removed and replaced at no
expense to the property owner."
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that as Council policy the procedure for implementation of street
projects be approved. Vote resulted:
AYES: Councilmen Imperial and Tury and Mayor Taylor
NAYES: Councilman Hunter
ABSENT: Councilman Cichy
Whereupon the Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so
ordered.
Councilman Hunter stated that the reason for his "no" vote
was because the motion was amended to make this procedure a City or
Council policy for all street improvment projects, and although
for four years it has been said by the Council it doesn't want
to change things because others have not received it, and now
the Council is giving some owners twice the improvement that are
given to the other owners.
Mayor Taylor stated that each Council can change this policy
any time they want to.so it is not something that has to be per-
manent.
D. CONSIDERATION FOR RENEWAL OF GRAFFITI REMOVAL CONTRACT
FOR FISCAL YEAR 1979-80
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN IMPERIAL, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TURY
that the Graffiti Removal Contract for fiscal year 1979-80 be
approved. Vote resulted:
UPON ROLL CALL ALL COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT VOTED AYE.
The Mayor declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Mayor Taylor requested that the staff prepare a list_of.all
the properties that Graffiti has been removed and what has happened
to each property since they have been cleaned.
MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS
A. Mayor Taylor inquired about the report that had been
requested regarding the alleyway south of Valley and east of
Rio Hondo.at the Council Meeting of July 24, 1979. X
Frank G. Tripepi, City Manager, stated that Mike'Scott
Engineer had prepared a report and copies were distributed to
the Council.
Mayor Taylor stated that by the next Council Meeting he
wanted a written report on what has been done so.that there
will not be a misunderstanding in the future.
There being no objections, it was so ordered.
Respectfully submitted:
City erk
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