PC - Item 3A - Minutes 2-6-12Minutes of the
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
February 6, 2012
The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by Chair Eng at 7:00 p.m., in the
Council Chambers, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Commissioner Saccaro
INVOCATION - Vice -Chair Ruiz
ROLL CALL - Commissioners Herrera, Hunter, Saccaro,
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS PRESENT: City Attorney
Ramirez, Assistant Planner Trinh, Planning Intern
1. EXPLANATION OF HEARING PROCEDURES
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, presented the procedures and
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THE
None
3. CONSENT
A. Approval of Mihutes - January -`1�, 2012
Commissioner Herrera mac
Minutes o J"anuary,17, 2012`
Vote resulted in:
Yes:. Herre
No:', None
Abstain: =. ;, Eng,
Absent None
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS ��
Saccaro
Eng
kcting Community, Development Director
and Commission'Secretary Lockwood
of the meeting.
Commissioner Hunter, to APPROVE the
A. MODIFICATION 11.06 - UFC Gym has submitted an application requesting to modify the
conditions of approval for Planned Development Review (PDR) 09.01, to allow UFC Gym to
operate 24 -hours and to host televised events. The business is currently operating from 5:00
a.m. to 11:00 p.m. The subject site is located at 8920 Glendon Way, in the P -D (Planned
Development) zone.
Staff Recommendation - It is recommended that the Planning Commission CONTINUE the
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public hearing for Modification 11.06. The applicant has indicated that they would like to
make changes to their original modification request.
Assistant Planner Trinh stated that UFC Gym has requested to continue this item so they can make
modifications to their original request.
Chair Eng asked staff if public hearing notices had been mailed out.
Assistant Planner Trinh replied yes.
Chair Eng asked Greg Murphy, City Attorney, if this item is Continued will public hearing notices need to be
mailed." "
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated that there are two (2),op1ions, (1) the Planning Commission may
Continue the item until a date certain; or (2) the Planning,,Cornmission may Continue the item until a date
uncertain and new public hearing notices can be mailed:He stated staff can have a'preference in that
regard.
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez stated that staff recommends that new public hearing
notices be mailed out since staff is unsure what the new conditions will be. She stated staff would like to
ensure that the notice has all the correct conditions that the applicant is applying for.
Chair Eng stated so it is recommended that this item
Planning Commission if they agree with this recommenr
The Planning Commission stated yes, they agree.
Chair Eng then asked
for
by
Vote resulted in:
Eng, Herrera, Hunter, Ruiz, Saccaro
No:
Abstain:
Absent:
uncertain and asked the
Herrera to Continue the public hearing
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 11 -13 - Anh Vo has submitted a Conditional Use Permit
application requesting to operate a tutoring center for children in the 6th through 12th
grades, located at 4213 Rosemead Boulevard, Unit B in the C -1 (Neighborhood Commercial)
zone.
PC RESOLUTION 12 -02 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ROSEMEAD, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, STATE OF CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 11.13, FOR THE OPERATION OF ROSEMEAD TUTORING
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CENTER LOCATED AT 4213 ROSEMEAD BOULEVARD, UNIT B.
Staff Recommendation - Based on the analysis and findings contained in this report, it is
recommended that the Planning Commission APPROVE Conditional Use Permit 11.13 and
adopt Resolution 12 -02, subject to the conditions.
Planning Intern Joaquin presented staff report.
Chair Eng stated that a revised Staff Report has been given to the
asked staff to clarify what corrections have been made to the Staff Rel
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez replied the cort
(4) item B, the findings were not printed in the Staff Report as it',
will find that in the Resolution the findings were left off.
Vice -Chair Ruiz confirmed with staff that they were just „typos:
Acting Development Director Ramirez replied yes.f
Chair Eng asked Greg Murphy, City
changes.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, replied that there
Chair Eng asked staff if
Planning Intern Joaquin-replied that
Chair Eng asked Planning
Commission tonight. She
Staff Report is on page four
he stated, in addition, you
the Staff Report, will need to be re- posted due to the
this and explained why.
being added or is one being revised.
is being added.
is being added.
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez explained that this is a new Condition of Approval that is
being ,bdded because the ;original site- plan had some errors on it. She stated staff is adding the new
Conditio,n'of Approval so thatybefore the project gets signed off, their site plan will accurately reflect what
was
Chair Eng asked -staff if the applicant is in agreement with the change and the added Condition of Approval.
Planning Intern Joaq6i649p1ied yes.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated he recommends that an additional sentence to Condition of Approval
number eleven (11) read 'Prior to submittal to the Planning, Building, Fire, Sheriff, and Health Departments
for any approvals related to this Conditional Use Permit, the applicant shall submit a revised and correct
site plan to the Planning Division, which will be subject to Division review and approval."
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez stated that the applicant is present tonight if the Planning
Commission would like to confirm that he understands this request.
Chair Eng asked the Planning Commission if they had any questions or comments for staff.
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked staff what is the time limit for the instructional period.
Planning Intern Joaquin replied the project narrative states the instructional period will be approximately
twenty (20) to forty (40) minutes.
Vice -Chair Ruiz confirmed with staff if there will be a break in between instructional periods to allow
students to leave and new students to enter. ,.
Planning Intern Joaquin replied yes.
Vice -Chair Ruiz requested that this is made clear in the
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez
make sure we understand their time limits.
Chair Eng requested clarification for the required
Assistant Planner Trinh replied accordin
hundred and fifty (250) square feet
building and divide it by 250 they meet the
Chair Eng confirmed with
on square footage and nc
Assistant Planner Triri1
different for restaurant u
one (1) per two hundred
Chair End asked staff`if;tt+
the insurance company.
Planning fn {ern Joaquin re
Chair Eng asked staff if all
Planning Intern
that
ing to
there is a break time.
that we confirm with the applicant to
site.
al center it was parked at one (1) per two
if 'yoyJotal the square footage of the
parking requirement is based
red and the parking requirement would be
center is office and retail so it is parked as
be taking over the insurance of the two units that were vacated by
in this commercial center are leased.
yes, and read a list of each business occupying a unit.
Chair Eng referred to Condition of Approval number twenty -two (22) and asked staff if the tutoring school le
would be able to keep a business vehicle onsite during business hours if they had one.
Assistant Planner Trinh replied that the applicant has indicated he will not have any business vehicles. She
stated that if there was a business vehicle it would require another parking space and the applicant has
chosen not to have any business vehicles.
Chair Eng asked staff what is being changed on the site plan.
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Assistant Planner Trinh replied there was an error regarding Fire Department occupancy load number,
which does not pertain to this type of business. She stated the applicant is limited to the number of
students in the staff report.
Chair Eng asked staff if there will be a separate men's and women's restroom.
Planning Intern Joaquin replied yes and the applicant is currently in the process of acquiring permits from
the Building Department.
Chair Eng stated according to the site plan it states that the
and that is why it is required to have a separate men's and v
Assistant Planner Trinh stated that the applicant may
Chair Eng recommended that applications re
explained that it could save time, money, and
need to go to the Planning Commission.
1mum,cbcUpancy load will exceed ten (10)
m's restr`oortf,,
w that came about:
of use be reviewed at a; staff level. She
)cedure, for this type of use and would not
Vice -Chair Ruiz stated that it is important thetthe Planning Commission oversee the Conditions of Approval
because it is the conditions that the City is ;'putting on the applicant. He also stated it is important that
the Planning Commission make the decision whether it is a yes or no "and to be aware of what is going on.
He stated if decisions are to be made at staff level then' .Why _wouId there be a need for a Planning
Commission. ;.
Chair Eng stated that shoe agrees the
requirements need tob' updated and
Commissioner Hunter commentedah�
(8) students „and five (5) parking pac
Chair Eng'stated that question can
questions for
None
Chair Eng opened the Public Hearing
a need fo�,a Planning Commission and expressed that parking
= indings- paragraph it states there will be one (1) instructor, eight 11
She asked if -it will always stay this way.
to the applicant. She asked if there were any other
and invited the applicant to the podium.
Anh Vo, applicant, stated he is available to answer any questions.
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked Anh Vo how long the classroom instruction sessions will be and if there will be a
break in- between sessions to give students time to exit the classroom and for new students to enter.
Anh Vo replied that he will be open Monday through Friday from 3:00 pm to 7:00 pm. He stated each
session will be from forty (40) minutes to one (1) hour with a maximum of eight (8) students. He stated they
will have five (5) to ten (10) minutes to exist and enter from classroom. He stated the students will be sixth
(6th) to twelve (12th) graders and the subjects he focuses on are math, chemistry, and physics.
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Vice -Chair Ruiz confirmed with the applicant that there will be break in- between sessions for students to
leave the premises and for the new students to come in.
Anh Vo replied that is correct.
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked Anh Vo if he would agree to a condition being added that required for a five minute
period break for students to leave the premises and for new students to enter. He explained that this
will help with parking concerns and will create a smooth transition of students entering and exiting the
premises.
Commissioner Hunter asked if five (5) minutes will be enough time
Anh Vo replied that there is a waiting room for students
feel five (5) minutes will be enough time.
Vice -Chair Ruiz commented to Anh Vo if there is a
only five (5) parking spaces, where will the other
issues are created.
Chair Eng asked Anh Vo if parking
Anh Vo replied right now he is allowed five (5), p
students off rather than using.the parking spaces, 1
Muscatel School and expects some students will w
Chair Eng asked Anh Von how many students are in
one time.
room
does he
in and out.
them up, so he does
(8) students in it and there are
He stated this is how parking
other alternatives to address it.
and he ;plans to require parents to drop
its location is five (5) minutes away from
session and how many subjects are taught at
Anh Vo replied it;will depend on, the"istudent, but usually all three subjects are taught.
Anh Vo if he has orieautor for all three subjects.
Anh Vo replied yes.
Chair Eng asked'Ahh Vo howfnany students are in one session.
An Vo did not reply to the question but explained that when students go to his center he plans on checking
their homework, going over their lessons, and spending a few minutes with each student.
Chair Eng asked Anh Vo if he is currently running a tutoring service or if he is relocating from a previous
location.
Anh Vo replied no this is his first time running a tutoring service.
Commissioner Hunter inquired about possible parking issues if parents plan to wait for their children
instead of just dropping them off.
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Commissioner Herrera asked Anh Vo if students will need to be signed in by a parent or will students be
able to just walk in from Muscatel Intermediate School or Rosemead High School. She also asked what the
maximum number of students allowed at a time is.
Anh Vo replied that students can walk in and that they do not need to be signed -in by a parent. He stated
parents will required to leave once their child is dropped off. He also replied that eight (8) students is the
maximum amount allowed.
Commissioner Herrera asked Ahn Vo if there will ever be twelve (12) or more'sitfing in the classroom at the
same time.
Anh Vo replied no and explained that there is only one (1) classroom with space for only eight (8) students.
He stated there is a waiting room for students being picked up,:,",.
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked Anh Vo if he will be giving
Anh Vo replied no and that the waiting room is just for
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked Anh Vo how long will`,parents or
Anh Vo replied the maximum time limit will
Vice -Chair Ruiz asked Anh
Anh Vo replied yes.
the students in the
or parents to wait.
in the waiting room.
into a Condition of Approval.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated,if that,Condition ofApproval is put in, it will have to be crafted very
carefully because it can create some- public`safety,,,concerns and explained why. He also stated that it
could create somepotential liability or the City if tae applicant complies with the cities demands and then
there isAfthfortunate inbident: He,stated if the Planning Commission would like to go in that direction a
Condifon," %can be written thaf is appropriate, but not while this meeting is going on and it would have to be
broughf iback at a later date '�He also, ' explained that there is nothing in the Conditions of Approval that
limits the number of parking spaces that can be allocated to the applicant within the shopping center. He
stated that is a private issue between the applicant and landlord, so long there are sufficient spaces to meet
the City standards. for the use, wh)ch there are. He stated whether the applicant is allocated five (5) spaces
by his landlord or the,,applicant In his private lease agreement with the landlord is able to obtain more
spaces is strictly up to h `He stated that some modifications can probably be done to Condition of
Approval number twenty -one (21) regarding not allowing too many people to be on the site, but that could
lead to a problem with people sitting in their cars instead of going into the applicant's unit. He stated this
could potentially end up with a landlord /tenant issue and the City does not want to get involved with that.
He stated that the wording can be changed in Condition of Approval number twenty-one (21) but then it
would have to come back to the next Planning Commission meeting.
Vice -Chair Ruiz recommended that it should be added but worded very cautiously so there is no liability for
the City. He stated as long as the site plan is being revised that the Fire Department be contacted to
confirm all regulations are being met.
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Chair Eng asked Anh Vo, if eight (8) students and one (1) instructor is practical and makes business
sense for him and would he be able to cover his expenses with only eight (8) students per session. She
expressed that she would like him to agree to Conditions of Approval that will work for him.
Anh Vo replied yes it will work for him.
Chair Eng stated that she agrees with Commissioner Herrera that some students at a certain age may just
walk in and not come in a car. She stated we would like to make sure parking should make some sort of
sense.
Commissioner Hunter stated that under student pick up and drop off; it'states you are required to escort the
child in and out of the classroom.
Chair Eng asked Greg Murphy, City Attorney, if this should be "a Condition of Approval and would this go
back to the concern of imposing a time limit on how long a'parent can wait.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, replied this would be different in term
student from a parked car to the center would avoid problems ;in th
having students running across the parking, lot into the center�:He
used for other educational facilities and he understands how it cam
enforceable this can be under rainy day situations
Chair Eng expressed to Anh Vo that to meet his`parking rgquirernent
(8) students and one (1),instructor per session"She also asked st
students and one (1) instructor will it require additionailparking spaces.
Assistant Planner
(2) students. She
Chair
that it
Anh Vo replied yes he agrees.
Vice -Chair Ruiz`a'slted Anh
Anh Vo replied yes.
s `of waiting. He stated escorting a
e` parking lot such as cars idling and
stated that this condition has been
e into being, but does not know how
important that he only has eight
if there are more than eight (8)
is requGed to have one (1) parking space per every two
utlents.then it will require six (6) parking spaces.
plicant that he understands the importance of the parking requirement and
to hi'm`and that he is agreeable.
is the instructor,
Chair Eng asked if there were anymore questions.
Commissioner Hunter asked if the applicant understands the consequences if he has more than eight (8)
students.
Vice -Chair Ruiz replied that staff will be able to instruct the applicant with that concern. He thanked
the applicant and explained that the City Attorney will draft up the revised Conditions of Approval and his
Conditional Use Permit will be approved at the next Planning Commission meeting.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated for clarification, this item will come back to the Planning Commission for
final vote at the next meeting.
Chair Eng asked if there was anyone else wishing to speak on this item.
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Chair Eng closed the Public Hearing. She clarified with the Planning Commission that this item may need
to come back to the next Planning Commission meeting.
Vice -Chair Ruiz stated the language in Condition of Approval number twenty -two (22) needs to be revised.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated if changes are going to be trade based on =comments of the Planning .
Commissioners and applicant tonight, staff and the City Attorneys office would like'a motion directing us to
modify Conditions of Approval numbers twenty -one (21) ,a6d twenty -six (26) and any other applicable
conditions to respond to the Commissions concerns ,about students waiting before orfafter their study
sessions and with respect to parking issues with parents or,students waiting.
Commissioner Herrera asked staff if
Assistant Planner Trinh replied that a (
business is operating the Conditional Use
Chair Eng asked staff that `as ''londa as the
the threshold..:
Assistant Planner Trinh replied yes
year time limit for a Conditional Use Permit application.
the land and as long as the
if it ceases, is six (6) months
Commissioned Herrera asked 'staff if-the applicant does'not comply with all the Conditions of Approval in the
future or,if,t#ie`te is parkittg,concerns,�what recourse the City would have.
Acting Community Development Directbry Ramirez, replied if a complaint is received staff will contact the
applicant 66d, discuss the issue:/She stated the applicant will be given a time frame to make the needed
corrections.' If" they do not make); the corrections, then staff will start the Revocation process of the
Conditional Use Permit.'
Commissioner Herreraconfirmed with staff that the applicant would then be jeopardizing his Conditional
Use Permit to do business;'
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez stated that is correct. She stated if the applicant came
back at a later date requesting to expand his business staff would deny his request.
Commissioner Herrera recommended that this application be approved tonight and that it does not need
to be brought back to the next Planning Commission meeting.
Chair Eng stated that she agrees with Commissioner Herrera and explained why.
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Acting Development Director Ramirez stated that the community is a very active community and when an
applicant violates their Conditional Use permit, the city finds out very quickly. She stated then staff calls that
applicant to try and resolve the issue. She stated that staff has made it very clear to the applicant and that
he understands he is limited to eight (8) students and one instructor (1).
Chair Eng asked Vice -Chair Ruiz if he would like to keep his request of this application coming to the next
Planning Commission.
Vice -Chair Ruiz replied that he would like to keep the five (5) minute trans`itioial period in- between class
sessions.
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated that will bean easier change to 'm
in or out. He stated that an added sentence to Condition of Approw
the applicant shall provide a five (5) minute transition period `6etw
students into and out of the site. He explained this will provide for
have to wait in the waiting room.
Vice -Chair Ruiz stated that he agrees with this transitional
Chair Eng stated staff will revise Condition
Greg Murphy, City Attorney, stated that he h'as
number twenty -one (21). He stated;if the Planning
it would be to make a motio)`fo`approve the Reso
to Conditions of Approval tiUmbers elevsl ,(11) and
Vice -Chair Ruiz made'a
Permit 11.13 and adopt
Vote
number tv
(21).
ke and itwould not be forcing people
number twenty -one (21) stating that
en classes 'to allow for passages of
a little flow time to students will not
constant movement.
(21).
`o revise Condition of Approval
approve what was made tonight
with the additional amendments
mer Herrera, to APPROVE Conditional Use
conditions.
, Ruiz, Saccaro
Greg Murphy, City Attorney; stated there is a ten (10) day appeal period where anyone wishing to take
action against the decision made tonight by the Planning Commission may do so. He let the applicant
know that staff will contact him to let him know when he can proceed with his business.
5. MATTERS FROM THE CHAIR & COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Hunter asked staff why the Baby Toy -Town sign is still up.
Acting Community Development Director replied staff will check on that and report back to the Planning
Commission.
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Chair Eng stated she would like staff to look into have tutoring centers of this matter possibly being
approved at staff level. She also stated it is important that we look into a solution for lack of parking in the
city and that it needs to be addressed.
6. MATTERS FROM STAFF
Acting Community Development Director Ramirez reminded the Planning Commission that the next
Planning Commission meeting for Monday, February 20, 2012 is on the President's Day Holiday and City
Hall will be closed. She stated that when a holiday falls on a Monday, andrCi'ty Hall is closed it is usually
moved to the following Tuesday. Unfortunately, due to schedule conflicts if'cannot be scheduled for that
Tuesday. Therefore, staff would like to recommend that the next Planning Commission meeting be held on
Monday, March 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm.
Chair Eng asked the Planning Commissioners if they are
5, 2012.
Planning Commissioners replied yes, they are
7. ADJOURNMENT
The next regular Planning Comr
7:00 p.m., due to City Hall being
Holiday.
ATTEST:
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to attend the meeting on Monday, March
ry, February 21, 2012, at
for the President's Day