PC - Minutes - 08-01-60CITY OF ROSEMEAD
ROSEMEAD, CALIFORNIA
Planning Commission
Minutes of August 1, 1960
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of
Rosemead was held in the City Hall Council Chambers, 3954 North
Rosemead Boulevard. The meeting was called to order by Chairman
Wilt at 8 :05 o'clock p.m.
1. , The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Kunz.
2. Present: Commissioners: Casares, Kunz, Lieberg, McCaffree,
Rightmeier, Sam, Wilt.
Absent: Commissioners: None.
'Ex officio: Boyko, Flanery, Farrell, Pederson.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
Commissioner Casares stated that in paragraph 5 of item 4 "no
higher than the fence itself" should be stricken. Aso that fir.
Flanerys's name should be inserted in parentheses after the word
"him" in the last line of Paragraph 3 of item 7. Attorney Boyko
corrected the spelling of his name in line is of item 2.
It was moved by Casares, second by McCaffree, and unanimously
carried, that the minutes of July 18, 1960 be approved as corrected.
4. OLD BUSINESS.
SPECIAL PERMIT CASE NO. 1. CHILD NURSERY SCHOOL.- 8756 MISSION DRIVE.
Attorney Boyko.reported on why this item appeared on the agenda
again, s ince the Commissioner who seconded the motion and who
also voted for approval of this special permit at the meeting.of
July 18, 1960 had not been present at the Public Hearing on this
case the vote to approve was invalid and therefore void. Mir. Boyko
also stated thatthe matter could be reconsidered with all three
Commissioners who had not been at the Public Hearing abstaining.
Commissioner McCaffree suggested that the entire matter be taken
up once more, beginning with a new public hearing.
Attorney Boyko and Advisor Flanery explained the procedure necessary
to begin proceedings anew without further cost to applicant.
Cha.irman Wilt stated his agreement with McCaffree's suggestion.
Commissioner McCaffree muoed and Wilt seconded that Special Permit
Case No. 1 be denied without prejudice and be reopened with notif-
ication of a Public Hearing.
Commissioner Casares stated that he felt the Commission was not
being entirely fair to applicant since what they were now.about to
do was similar to placing applicant in double jeopardy.
Commissioner Rightmeier stated that in the previous action (July 18)
the invalid vote meant the motion to approve would have failed,
therefore there was no reason to do it again.
Commissioner Lieberg stated that it would appear that the previous
action would have to be rescinded. Attorney Boyko explained that
since there was no valid action there was nothing to rescind, and
that the matter now rested at the same place as when the Public
Hearing was closed. After further discussion by Casares and Right-
meier the following roll call vote was taken on the motion:
Ayes: McCaffree, Wilt. Noes: Casares, Rightmeier. Abstentions:
Kunz, Lieberg, Sam. Absent: None. The motion failed for lack
of a majority.
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6.
Commissioner Casares moved that the action of the Commission in
approving Special Permit Case No. 1 be ratified. Commissioner
R ghtmeier seconded the motion,
majority with the following rol
Rightmeier. Noes: McCaffree,
Sam. Absent: None.
which failed for lack of a
1 call vote: Ayes: Casares,
Wilt. Abstain: Kunz, Lieberg,
Commissioner Lieberg moved, second by McCaffree, that the matter
come before a Public Hearing again and thereby be reinstituted.
Commissioner Rightmeier stated that the case was clear, that there
will again be no majority although a quorum is present, and that
he could see no reason why application should be made again. He
also charged that the opponents to granting the permit took that
position only because no stone wall had been required, and stated
that the majority of the Commission felt this was prohibitive and
therefore not fair to the applicant, nor to those citizens who
opposed the permit.
Chairman Wilt stated that the matter should be reopened. In
response to Rightmeier's charge, Commissioner McCaffree stated
that misleading statements as to costs of the wall were made,
that the wall would cost approximately $2,700. rather than the
$8,000. previously quoted, and that the planting and erection'
of a chain -link fence would be more costly than a wall. McCaffree
also stated that according to the decision that had been previously,
rendered the school could not be used until the planting had
reached a height of 42 feet. Thus, due to misleading information
the matter should be reconsidered by the entire Commission. conduded
McCaffree.
The motion was.amended, upon suggestion by Lieberg and Casares, to
provide that the City bear the expense of reapplication to a
maximum of $25.00 so as not to penalize applicant for the Commiss-
ions' error. Mr. Flanery stated that that sum would be adequate.
Roll call vote on the motion as amended was unanimous for approval.
At this time Commissioner Casares requested the Council to have
a uniformed officer present at all future meetings. Wilt suggested
this be done just for certain occassions. Rightmeier stated that
the Chair had been too lenient, and that is why the audience
became unruly in the past, and that from now on no one be permitted
to speak unless standing before the Commi- ssion. Mr. Farrell said
arrangements could be made to have an officer here when needed.
After more discussion Rightmeier asked that the rule be applied
that no matter may be taken up that is not on the agenda. Chairman
Wilt applied the rule forthwith and the matter was dropped.
OLD BUSINESS
PLOT PLAN NO. 20. CAYWOOD. 8779 Ralph Street.
investigation.
Advisor Flanery stated that the status.of this matter, due to
complication regarding deed restrictions and dedication of the
area in question, was such that the Commission could not take
action at this time. The matter was taken under submission until
such time as the Commission could act, and was removed from the
agenda with no objections.
At this time Mr. Kermin Haines of Harmony Builders, Inc:, 8635
Valley Boulevard was recognized by the Chair. Mr.-Haines, Mr.
Flanery, and Mr. Farrell.discussed the matter to clear up.some
of the questions Mr. Haines had and to advise him on'his action
from this point.
REPORT RE: CITY COUNCIL REQUEST.
Commissioner McCaffree requested more time for the committee that
had been appointed to make its report. He stated that some work
had been done but moretime was needed i.n order to make a thorough
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Commissioner Rightmeier stated that hethought it was shocking that
the closer together people get the farther apart they want to be.
He.also stated that any action that might be discriminatory should
be considered very seriously, that there were many people in town
with animals, and that the Master Plan was coming up.
Chairman Wilt also asked for m ^'e
was no objection the matter would
reports back.
time, and stated that if there
be held over until this committee
7. NEW BUSINESS
PLOT PLAN NO. 22. BABLE' 3728 N" "H MUSCP,T =L AVENUE.
Advisor Flanery presented the factual data, and after some
discussion by the Commission the Chairmen oiled Mr. Babler before
the Commission. Mr. William Pickering of P`ckering Construction,
11513 East Lambert, El Monte, represented l�r. Babler.
After considerable discussion, in which some commissioners
expressed an inclination to disapprove because this appeared to be
too much like a subdivision, and that unha�-,^} results often occur
when these parcels are sold off, it was moved by McCaffree, second
by Lieberg, and unanimously carried by roll call that the matter
be held over for father study by the Planning Commission, to
September 6, 1960.
6. PUBLIC HEARING - ZONS E):C' 1 C l % °.SE NO. 8 - CS,RL GR ANT.
Advisor Flanery reported the factual date, E.nd pointed out that
there was a potential tra problem if the Zone Exception were
granted as presented due to the h?avy volume of traffic through
this intersection.
Chairman Wilt opened the-Public Hearing and Advisor Fanery administ-
ered the Oath to those in the audience wishing to tc_,tify on any
matter concerning Zone Exception Cases 3 and 9.
Frank Foster, 4216 North Roseme, -1 Boulevard, spoke for Mr. and
Mrs. Grant, and stated that:
1. All but seven property c within a 500' radius signed
a petition approving this exception, and that five of
the seven were not home one wc:s c . C i t y emp 1 oyee, and one
disapproved the excepticn.
2. The setfaek provided for permits ac' ^. ^crate safety for
entrance to street from property.
3. All cities are zoning these strips along freeways R -3 or
high but he is in ef:c:ct c." ing only for R -2.
Commissioner Casares stated that perhaps it would be better to
wait and probably get evcn bettc- zoning when Master Plan is
completed. Mr. Foster stated that owner only desired to develop
this property as hic' =s - : -cd, and did ^ ^ r wish to wait for a
Master Plan since this could be over a year. Mr. Foster also stated
that the present use of this property was more conforming to
agricultural than to surrounding uses, and that proposed use was
not detrimental to surrounding property as other uses permissible
under R -A zoning would be, he wort on to state that being
adjacent to a freeway does hinder the enjoyment or the property
rights this person, therefore t:;e only ec ^.itabie solution is
to permit a higher use, that proposed development would Be well
above normal density in terms of square footage, and that the
overall area in effect was in a hither use than R -A anyway.
After lengthy discussion Casares moved, Kunz seconded, that this.
zone exception be granted Subject to submission of additional
plot plan to staff for approval showing five more paved parking
spaces.
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After considerably more discussion in which Commissioners Lieberg
and Sam stated their feeling that this would be tantamont to spot
zoning if approved,.and Rightmeier expressed his interest in
keeping these matters in control of the Commission and not giving
the Staff too much leeway, Casares, with the permission of Kunz
withdrew his motion..
Commissioner Rightmeier moved that this case be approved with same
requirement for parking as .stated in Casares' motion, but that
10 foot setback be permitted if necessary, rather than the present
requirement of 20 feet. Motion died for lack of a second. .
Casares moved his pievious motion with the exceptions that the
matter be resubmitted to the Planning Commission rather than to
the Staff. After more discussion Casares amended his motion to
provide that.the matter be referred to staff for approval as.
stated in original motion. Kunz seconded the amended motion,
which was defeated•by a roll call vote as follows: Ayes: Casares,
Kunz. Noes: Lieberg, McCaffree, Rightmeier, Sam Wilt. Absent:
None.
Commissioner Rightmeier moved, Sam seconded, that this Zone
Exception be denied. Roll call vote as follows: Ayes: Lieberg,
McCaffree, Rightmeier, Sam, Wilt, Noes: Casares, Kunz. Absent:
None.
Advisor Flanery made findings that there was no serious detriment
to enjoyment of a property right by denying this request, nor was
a zone change necessary to retain enjoyment of a property right.
Attorney.Boyko advised applicant that he had 15 days in which to
appeal this decision to the City Council.
Mr. Foster stated that he would like to know why this case was
turned down. Chiarman Wilt polled the Commissioners that voted
no for their reasons for disapproval.
Lieberg stated that he felt this was an R -2 request under the guise
of a zone exception, and that he was afraid of the precedent that
would be set for spot zoning that would eventually lower the
area because of over dersity, and low quality housing. He also
stated that other cities were not in point, and-that zoning will
probably be changed as a result of the general plan.
Wilt and McCaffree agreed with the reasons stated by Lieberg.
Rightmeier felt that the Commission should be consistant in consid-
ering zone changes, and should not grant them unless there are
exceptional reasons to do so.
Sam agreed with previous reasons and stated he felt no hardship
was presented by the facts in the case.
9. PUBLIC HEARING. ZONE EXCEPTION CASE NO. 9 - MARVIN E. CARTER.
Advisor.Flanery presented the factual data and Chairman Wilt
opened the Public Hearing.
Marvin E. CArter, 1416 South San Gabriel Boulevard, San Gabriel,
stated that this development would include a dedicated street,
showed photographs of this and surrounding property, stated tat
all regulations would be met, and that the entire development
would be pleasing to look at and would be an asset to the area
and City.
Louis Stone, 830 East Whitcomb Ave., Glendora, stated that he
was the owner of the land and felt that this proposed use would
be-higher and more beneficial to the area and City. "
Secretary Farrell read a communication regarding this case from
the - Rosemead School District which requested that the matter be
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held over to the next regular meeting in order to permit the School
Board to consider the matter. The letter stated that expansion
of the Wells School might require the use of this property.
It was moved by Rightmeier, second by Lieberg, and unanimoudy
carried that this matter be held over to the next regular meeting
as per the School Board's request.
Attorney Boyko explained the Public Hearing would remain open, and
that the item should be placed on the agenda for,the next regular
meeting.
10. COMMUNICATION - E. P. LIEBERG. RE: OUTDOOR ADVERTISING.
Secretary Farrell read a.letter that Commissioner Lieberg had sent
to the City Council concerning recent council action re: outdoor
advertising.
Chairman Wilt, with unanimous approval of the Commission instructed
Secretary Farrell to carry to the City Council - the expression
of unanimous approval of this letter.
11. Advisor Flanery advised the Commission that he had a matter he
would like to discuss with them tonight regarding a zone exception
granted in 1953 involving Boyd Imports, 8930 Mission Drive.
Advisor Flanery stated that an additiona development on this property
was being proposed.
Attorney Boyko stated that in cas(s such as these where the ordinance
did not spell out in detail what action was required, the Commission
should establish some kind of policy. In this case it would have
to be decided whether or not the new proposal involved a significant
enough change in the facts which were presented in the original
zone exception to affect the decision at this time. If it was
felt that the facts originally presented would not have been
significantly altered by the inclusion of the current proposal,
no new exception would be necessary. If it was felt that they
would have been altered significantly, anew exception would have
to be granted. Mr. Boyko concluded by stating that this was mainly
a matter of policy and fact and not of law., and therefore it was
up to the Commission with the assistance of the technical advisor
to determine the proper course of action.
Commissioner McCaffree stated that he felt the proposed alteration
was inconsequential and should not be considered as a new case.
Lieberg expresied the opposite feeling on the matter. Chairman.
Wilt polled the Commission and it was found that most preferred
more time in order to look over the property. ' Lieberg stated he
would Like the facts presented in writing for study.
At this time the Chair recognized George Boyd, St. of Boyd Imports
who stated that he was.only interested in protecting his boys who
at present were forced to work exposed to the sun, that previously
one had been overcome by the heat, that the $2,500. expenditure
he would make would improve the City of Rosemead, the property and
would protect the people working in the exposed area.
George Boyd, Jr, of Boyd Imports was recognized and reiterated his
father's statements and added the invitation to anyone interested
to come up to their place of business and see the problem they had.
Lieberg moved that the staff provide the Commission with the details
of the case so could be intelligently investigated and judged,
and that the staff present this data by the next regular meeting.
Motion died for lack of second.
After some discussion, Lieberg made the same motion as before,
Rightmeier seconded, and the motion carried unanimously.
12. Secretary Farrell advised the Commission that he had been asked
by the City Council at the previous meeting to submit a report of
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the "701" program, which would be considered at the next Council
meeting. Also, that the contract with Mr. Mansur had been redrawn
pursuant tothe discussion at the meeting of July 22 of the
Planning Commission's changing some items that were disagreeable to
Mr. Mansur, that -this revised contract along with the Commissions
letter recommending Mr. Mansur had been submitted to the City
Council at its previous meeting, and that the Council had deferred
action on both matters, pending submission of complete copies of
the contract.
It was moved by Casares, second by Sam, and unanimoudy carried
that the meeting adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 11:25 o'clock p.m.
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