PC - Minutes - 12-17-68PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
DECEMBER 17, 1968
A regular.meeting of the Rosemead Planning Commission was called to
order by Chairman Larson at 7:34 P.M. in the Council Chambers of
the City Hall, 8838 Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
I.- CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Dauer led the Pledge of Allegiance
The Invocation was delivered by Commissioner Floe.
2. ROLL CALL VOTE:
PRESENT: Commissioners
ABSENT: Commissioners
Dauer, Floe, Hunter, Larson & Schymos
None
EX OFFICIO: Director of Planning - Al Hersh
City Administrator - Milt Farrell
Administrative Assistant - Steve Street
City Attorney - Bob Joehnck
Secretary - Foy Burton
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - December 3, 1968
Commissioner Schymos pointed out that the conditions of Zone
Variance No. 57 did not include the 32 seats granted by the
Commission. Planning Director Hersh indicated the figure was
marked on the plan and would be corrected in the minutes.
Chairman Larson pointed out an error on page seven, item 11 A,
paragraph 2. The item should read "..... informed the Commission.."
(MO) It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, second . by Commissioner
Floe, and unanimously carried, that the minutes of December 3,
1968 be approved as corrected.
4. TIME RESERVED FOR PERSONS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS
THE COMMISSION.
NONE
PUBLIC HEARING
5. NONE
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
6. PLOT PLAN NO. 387 - Ninth dwelling on R -2 parcel - 2646 Gladys -
Alta Builders.
Planning Director Hersh presented the factual data.
Mr. Dale Ingram, 3364 Hoyt Street, E1 Monte, representing the
owners of the subject property, Mr. and Mrs. Higley, and the
proposed builders, Alta Builders, addressed the Commission
covering the history of the development of the property. Mr.
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PLOT PLAN NO. 387 (COnihinued)
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Cngram stated the existing homes were not substandard and would
probably be there for quite some time and suggested several
things that could be done to bring the property close to City
standards. Mr. Ingram stated Mr. Higley was willing to record
a covenant preventing the property from being divided without
express Planning Commission approval.
Discussion by the Commission included restoration of storage
area on so called parcel B to its original use as a garage
and installing a driveway to the garage, establishment of a
new storage room, ingress and egress from the site in the event
of an emergency, and existing and proposed parking facilities.
Mr. Higley, 736 San Salvatore, San Gabriel, addressed the
Commission regarding information he had received from the
Fire Department concerning the possibility of a fire truck
gaining access to one of the dwellings, stating the department
evidenced no concern about such a possibility.
(MO) It was moved by mmmis,ion second by Commissioner Floe
that Plot Plan No. 38 approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. The applicant shall submit revised plans in accord with
Commission requests and the property shall thereafter be
developed substantially in accord with the approved plot
plan marked "Exhibit A - Revised ".
2. The storage structure (indicated on original plans as
parcel B) shall be restored and shown as a two car garage
with a paved driveway provided for access.
3. The owner of the subject property shall record a covenant
on the property stating the property shall remain under one
ownership and shall not be divided without the approval
of the Rosemead Planning Commission. A copy of the recorded
document to be submitted to the City Planning Department
for the record.
4. Development of the subject property shall otherwise be in
accord with the applicable standards and policies of the
Planning Commission and in accord with the regulations of
the City Zoning Ordinance (Ord. 112).
S. This approval shall expire one year from the date of
approval unless a building permit has been issued; con-
struction has started and is being diligently pursued to
completion prior to the stated expiration date.
6. Applicant /owner shall submit a signed Affidavit of
Acceptance of Conditions to staff.
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PLOT PLAN NO. 387 (Continued)
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: Commissioners: Dauer, Floe, Hunter
Nos: Commissioners: Larson and Schymos
Absent: Commissioners: None
7. DISCUSSION OF AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS AND BROADCASTING ANTENNAS.
Chairman`Larson set this item back on the agenda to follow.
Item No. 9
NEW.BUSINESS
8.. PLOT PLAN NO. 400 - Rosemead Square Shopping Center - C -3 -d
Zone - Design approvals -of uses and buildings - Theodore Rhodes,
applicant
Planning Director Hersh presented a chronological history of the
development of Rosemead Square and the conditions of the approval
of the Square to date, and explained current plans and elevations
of the proposed satellite'stores.
Mr. Hersh also presented the Commission with nine suggested
conditions of approval for the proposed satellite retail
store buildings.
Discussion by the Commission included desirability and previous
indications to develop a "pedestrian mall" between the satellite
stores and Montgomery Wards, the placement of above - ground
transformer now existing, required parking, signs, and the
architectural review board to advise Commission and staff
on technical matters.
Commissioner Schymos wanted the record to show:. that the under-
ground utility condition had been circumvented with the
erection of the existing transformer.
Mr.. Ross, of the Southern California Edison Company, addressed
the Commission regarding the financial and physical reasons
behind the transformer being placed above ground.
Discussion by the Commission included the high cost of placing
the transformer under ground, the type of screen which could
be placed around the transformer and the possible results
if an auto hit the transformer.
Mr. Ross assured the Commission that the subject transformer would
not be electrically hazardous if hit by an auto since the
power would be automatically cut off by the impact:
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PLOT PLAN NO.. 400 (Continued)
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Mr. Theodore Rhodes of the Larwin Fund and associate of Mr.
Arthur Gilbert, addressed the Commission stating he had no
knowledge of the type of customer traffic referred to as a
"heavy commercial traffic" in the satellite portion of the
mall.. He said that in early discussions he and his associates
had felt this mall would be set up merchandise wise as a feature
at the entrance to the stores onto the mall, and they had made
no previous indication that this would be a regional shopping
center. They tried to obtain a market, there is no super-
market chain they did not contact, but they had no positive
response from any supermarket chain. 'in regard to a junior
department store, variety store, or dime store, the conditions
are about the same as with a supermarket. Construction of the
satellite buildings was done to attract tenancy into the center.
He stated he and his associates have no objections to putting
entrances and /or glass facing the Ward building but they pre-
sently have no tenant who wishes to do so. They intend to
screen the roof top equipment but this has not yet been done
because of a temporary lapse in construction and the fact that
they are not yet sure what type of roof top equipment will be
used until all tenants have been secured. The lack of a super-
market tenant affects his ability to attract tenants to the
satellite stores. Mr. Rhodes also stated that a problem
existed with the men's ready to wear store and the jeweler,
as they had ordered their fixtures on the basis of a blank wall
to the east.
Mr.. Rhodes stated he had discussed the blank buil'di'ng wall with
Mr.. Hersh and Mr. Farrell and indicated he would prefer the
building permit not be suspended, but had willingly agreed in
writing to cease construction until a satisfactory arrangement
could be made in a presentation to the Planning Commission in
accordance with Mr. Hersh's request.
Chairman Larson declared a recess at 9:40 P.M.. and reconvened
the meeting at 9:50 P.M.
Mr..Robert Turner,.Regional Engineer of Montgomery Ward in
Oakland, addressed the Commission stating he was not present
at the original transactions but in discussion with the
Ward staff he had understood there would be an active pedes-
trian walkway with anticipated entrances from the satellite
stores onto the mall.. That he understood this was the reason
for Wards three existing entrances onto the mall. Speaking
for Montgomery Ward, they obyiect to a solid wall on the
satellite buildings from a merchandising stand point. Mr.
Turner, down from San Francisco only to attend this meeting,
also stated he would like to see the matter cleared up as
soon as possible since it was affecting the business in the
Montgomery Ward store.
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PLOT PLAN NO, 400 (Continued)
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Mr. Farrell stated the city would like to eventually see this
center with the PD zoned areas to the west and east become a
regional center to include the good retail stores the ci..ty
needs, and that the original basis for the Zone Variance and
Zone Change approvals, to his recollection, had been indicated
to be developed so that the mall between Wards and the satellite
stores would be constructed in an open manner to encourage I a.
pedestrian flow of potential customers. Mr. Farrell also
stated that in accord with the recommended conditions the
staff would have the authority to approve design plans after-
appropriate plans are submitted, with the aid of the archi
tectural review committee. If the staff and the committee
cannot settle upon an arrangement satisfactory to the staff
or the applicant the plans will be submitted to the Commission
,for a decision ;. He also stated the city would like to see
uniformity in the signs of the satellite stores., Mr. Farrell .
suggested the Commission approve the conditions suggested byt
Planning Director Hersh.
Mr.: Richardson,:associate vice - president of Leach Cleveland
and Associates,. Architects, addressed the Commission stating
he was present at the time the project was planned and.the
design concept was def.i.nitly based on the fact that the mal]
should be a traffic mall with store entries onto the.mall,
so foot traffic would be attracted to this mall. He also
stated there is no hazardous situation with the transformer
but that it should be screened and a curb placed around it..
Mr: Richardson stated that a small amount of the east wall
could be left for lateral support and the rest of the area
used as store windows and entrances, He suggested Mr. Rhodes
might be agreeable to continuing construction on the.buildings
without the east wall until the matter could be resolved.
Discussion by the Commission included screening of roof
top equipment, possibility of a junior department store, a
variety store or a dime store, or other "draw" instead
of the originally proposed market, required submission of
detailed plans of parking and landscaping, and procedures for
approval of all design plans, utilizing the appointed
Architectural Review Committee for technical advice.
(MO) It was moved by Commissioner Schymos, second by Commissioner
Hunter that Plot Plan No. 400 be approved subject to the
following nine conditions:
The north -south pedestrian mall, between the Montgomery
Ward department store and the two buildings under construction
and known as buildings "A" and "6" , shall be the focal
point of pedestrian circulation with satellite stores to
front or open onto said mall.
2. All air conditions and other roof -top equipment shall be
adequately screened. Screening should be opaque, fireproof,
and more or less continuous so that said screening f:i.ts
or is compatible with the architecture of adjoining buildings.
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PLOT PLAN N0. 400 (Continued)
3. The Edison Company transformer mounted on the surface to
the west of the Thrifty Drug store in building "A" shall
be screened by a six foot tall architectural screen and
adequate landscaping, subject to approval of the Director
of Planning. It should be noted that all utilities are
otherwise required to be located underground.
4. All uses should be as previously proposed when the zoning
was granted. Since a market apparently cannot be obtained
as a primary draw at the south end of the pedestrian mall ",
a junior department store, a 5 and 10 store, or a variety
store should anchor the south end of said mall.
5. Precise plans are required to be submitted, indicating the
entire development of the shopping center, including
all structures, elevations, parking spaces, landscaping,
walls, utilities, lighting and signs.
6. Plans shall include precise dimensions, uses, pedestrian
and automobile access, and shall include the dimensions,
size and locations of doors and windows.
7. The proposed color and types of material for all structures
and equipment shall be submitted.
8. Construction of building "B" shall not proceed until con-
struction plans have been changed to delete the masonry
wall on the east side of building "B" to provide for future
doors and windows.
9. In the event of any disagreement with regard to approval
of the "design plan ", plans shall be re- submitted to the
Planning Commission for review and approval.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
Ayes: Commissioners: Dauer, Floe, Hunter, Larson and Schymos
Nos: Commissioners: None
Absent: Commissioners: None
MA TTERS FROM COMMISSION AND STAFF
9• Horses in Residential Zones
Chairman Larson suggested that since this item was not a
pressing one that the Animal Regulations Committee look into
this and the matter be taken up at a future meeting. The
Commission agreed.
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10. Commissioner Schymos suggested the Commission study the zoning
layout of Rosemead to see if there were any beneficial changes
to be made. Planning Director Hersh pointed out that it was
planned to review the City General Plan in the near future, that
approved revisions would alter the plan so that it was necessary
to hold up zone changes until the revised General Plan could
be used as a, guide. Mr. Schymos, a member the Zoning
Committee agreed this procedure was more appropriate.
7. Discussion of Amateur Radio Operators and Broadcasting Antennas.
The Commission decided to study the proposed regulations and
discuss the matter at the next meeting.
11% TIME RESERVED FOR PERSONS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS
THE CbMMISSION.
NONE
There being not further business, Chairman Larson adjourned
the meeting at 9:50 P.M.