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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
ROSEMEAD BUILDING REHABILITATION
APPEALS BOARD
SEPTEMBER 28, 1999
The regular meeting of the Rosemead Building Rehabilitation Appeals Board was called to order
by Chairman Vasquez at 7:05 p.m. in the Conference Room of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley
Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
The Pledge to the Flag and Invocation were waived as having been completed during the
meeting just adjourned.
ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS:
Present: Boardmembers Bruesch (arrived at 7:35 p.m.), Imperial, Taylor, Vice-
Chairman Clark, and Chairman Vasquez
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NONE
I. ADMINISTRATION OF OATH
The Board Secretary administered the oath to all persons wishing to address the Board.
IL HEARINGS
The following item was taken out of order in deference to those in the audience.
B. 7646 NEWMARK AVENUE-REHEARING
The subject property consists of an owner-occupied single family dwelling with a
detached garage which consists of an unpermitted conversion on the lower level and an
unpermitted unit on the upper level. The property is zoned R-1. The aforementioned garage was
constructed with benefit of permits in 1983 as a 525 square foot single story structure.
This property was previously before the Appeals Board on August 24, 1999. At that
time, the property owner Ms. Bohne requested the unpermitted conversions be allowed to remain
while an addition to the dwelling was being constructed. The Appeals Board directed staff to
meet with the property owner on site and perform a more in-depth inspection of the interior of
the garage. The purpose of the inspection is to determine if any hazardous conditions exist and
to compile a cost estimate to demolish the unpermitted conversion on the lower level and to
legalize/convert the unpermitted unit on the upper level to a usable storage room.
On August 31, 1999, the Building Official, Steve Bailey met with the property owner on
the site. Ms. Bohne signed a consent to enter form and permitted an inspection of the garage
interior. The property owner had exposed a portion of the unpermitted construction. The
Building Official observed the drainage system for the bathroom was unvented. When the owner
was questioned about the location of the vent, she indicated she did not know but would ask her
husband. The owner phoned the following day and stated the reason the vent had not been
properly extended to the exterior was because it would possibly alert the City of an illegal
installation. The electrical system in the bathroom was not functioning and, therefore, was
unable to be tested. The bathroom lacks the required ground fault protection on the electrical
outlet.
The property owner has requested the storage area on the upper level be allowed to
remain. The floor system does not meet the minimum structural design loads for storage areas.
Also observed during the inspection was the installation of laundry facilities on the building
exterior which includes a gas line, electrical and drainage piping installation. The laundry
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facilities are situated under an unpermitted patio overhang which is attached to the southern wall
of the garage and extends to within approximately (6") six inches of the south property line. A
revised list of defects was compiled and mailed to the property owner.
On September 2, 1999,Ms. Bohne phoned and said she was prepared to submit plans for
the addition to the dwellilng. To date, plans have not been submitted for plan check.
A notice of hearing was mailed and posted on the property on August 26, 1999.
The City Building Official recommends that the Appeals Board find the property
substandard and order that all substandard conditions be removed or corrected by October 28,
1999. However, if the required permits are obtained for the corrective work and sufficient
progress is achieved by October 28, 1999, the abatement date may be extended to November 28,
1999; or, if plans for the addition to the dwelling are submitted by October 28, 1999, the
abatement date may be extended to allow sufficient time for the plan checking process.
However, plans must be approved and permits obtained no later than November 28, 1999. The
correction of the unsafe conditions in the bathroom area on the lower level must be completed by
November 28, 1999 to allow temporary use during the construction of the addition. The addition
shall be completed by March 28, 2000, at which time all outstanding substandard conditions
shall be abated. The aforementioned shall be completed prior to final approval and occupancy of
the new addition.
Ruth Ann Bohne, 7646 Newmark Avenue, Rosemead, property owner was present. Ms.
Bohne stated that she submitted their status report to the Appeals Board as reports from staff are
one-sided, verbalized items do not show up on the reports, and they are contrary. Ms. Bohne
stated that at the conclusion of the August 31, 1999 meeting with the Building Official at their
property, two items were requested to be corrected: the installation of a GFI circuit, and the
extension of the PVC vent pipe through the ceiling in the bathroom. (According to Ms. Bohne's
report, those two items have been done.)
Boardmember Clark asked Ms. Bohne if that installation was done by the prior owner.
Ms. Bohne replied that the work was done by the tenant (now her husband), and that she
did not live there at that time.
Boardmember Taylor asked why the Board has not received an updated report on the List
of Defects.
James Guerra, Consulting Building Official, referred to the previous staff report on this
property and explained that the initial contact with the owners warranted that they do not enter
the property without a Sheriff's escort, or specific written permission of the owner. Mr. Guerra
stated that they did not have the owner's permission nor did they have a request from them to
return to re-inspect the property.
Boardmember Taylor clarified that normally, the Building Department does not receive
requests from every rehab case to come back and take pictures.
Mr. Guerra stated that the owner had requested that the Inspectors do not come back on
the property without their permission.
Boardmember Taylor stated that it's been four weeks since the last inspection and that
this is an issue of treating the owners with fairness.
Mr. Guerra stated that since the inspection on August 31, 1999, there has been extensive
contact with the owner and a meeting was held with them at City Hall. Mr. Guerra explained
that there was a general understanding with the owners that nothing else had been done as
recently as last Thursday and again, this past Monday. There was no indication that any
additional work had been done.
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Boardmember Taylor stated that that is not the Building Department's normal procedure
and it is not fair to the owners. Mr. Taylor stated that the Building Department should try to be
as fair as they can on these reports.
Mr. Guerra, at the request of the Boardmembers, clarified his previous statement
regarding not entering their property without a Sheriffs escort. Mr. Guerra stated that based on
their first attempt to inspect their property, the occupant requested that they not reenter that
property, and to not come back on the property again. Mr. Guerra stated that generally, when
that occurs, they mark the file to not enter without a Sheriffs escort to prevent any problems
involving staff.
Ms. Bohne explained that her husband reacted to an Inspector trying to enter their
backyard unannounced. Ms. Bohne explained that her husband did not know what this was
about and that he became angry and confronted the Inspector, who then provided identification
and explained that a complaint had been received. Mr. Bohne ordered her to leave the property
and not to come back unless a Search Warrant had been obtained. Ms. Bohne stated that since
that time they have met twice with City officials on their property, and that she was forced to
sign a consent form after the August 24, 1999 Rehab Meeting. Ms. Bohne stated that she felt
coerced into signing that document as it is open-ended and does not specify a time period. Ms.
Bohne stated that she felt progress was being hindered by these actions.
Boardmember Taylor explained that the corrections need to be made during the
construction phase and before the final inspection.
Steve Bailey, Building Official, stated that the two items in the bathroom need to be
corrected and an inspection scheduled.
Boardmember Taylor asked Ms. Bohne about the progress on their loan.
Ms. Bohne stated that she has not been supplied with a form from the City to give to the
bank.
Mr. Bailey stated that he arrived at a dollar amount shortly after the August 31"
inspection necessary to demolish the bathroom and restore the storage space, should they decide
to keep it.
Boardmember Taylor stated that it has now been five weeks with no progress and that
this situation is not fair to everyone involved. Mr. Taylor asked what the next step is.
Ms. Bohne stated she submitted the plans to the Planning Department and they were
stamped with Conditions to be met before permits can be issued.
Peter Lyons, Planning Director, explained that the Conditions mirror what is already
required; however, it states that all those conditions shall be completed prior to final approval
and occupancy, and not to permit. Mr. Lyons stated that those conditions are only necessary at
the very end and that allows the owners to start the construction and use the bathroom in the
garage, as specifically requested by the Bohne's.
Mr. Guerra stated that recommendation before the Board is consistent with the List of
Defects which specifies correcting the hazardous conditions of the bathroom and allowing the
temporary use of the bathroom while they complete the addition.
Boardmember Taylor stated that in all fairness, those items need to be inspected. Mr
Taylor added that the loan process needs to be started also.
Don Wagner, Assistant City Manager, asked Ms. Bohne if the Inspector could come out
to their property tomorrow, Wednesday, September 29Th.
Ms. Kohne responded that they could come out tomorrow, after 6:00 p.m., as she works
during the day.
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Mr. Lyons and Mr. Guerra responded that they would meet Ms. Bohne at her property on
Wednesday, September 29th at 6:00 p.m.
Ms. Bohne stated that they are building their home in phases because they plan on
occupying the property the entire time the construction is underway. Ms. Bohne expressed her
concern that if the occupany permit is held up in the final phase, they will be left without a place
to live.
Boardmember Taylor stated that the Bohne's need to keep working and making progress.
Mr. Taylor stated that the Board is willing to work with them as long as there is a justifiable and
reasonably good faith effort being made.
Ms. Bohne stated that she did not understand why the Board is asking her to remedy
conditions because as far as she knows, they have been corrected.
Boardmember Taylor explained that there are other conditions such as the storage area
substandard floor, the appliances stored outside, and the patio roof which is 6"from the property
line.
Ms. Bohne stated that the previous owner owned both properties at one time and had no
objection to the patio roof being so close to the property line.
Boardmember Bruesch arrives.
Boardmember Taylor stated that because he owned both properties, it still does not
satisfy the code requirements. Mr. Taylor stated again that there are other items that have to be
corrected during the construction phase.
Ms. Bonne reiterated again that she was only advised of two corrections and those two
were corrected.
Boardmember Taylor stated that that was incorrect and that at the last meeting, several
items were discussed or listed.
Boardmember Clark asked why there are no backups included in the staff report.
Mr. Guerra responded that when they do a re-hearing, typically, only new information
since the last hearing is provided. On a first hearing, the complete file is provided.
Ms. Reline raised the issue of the exterior wall covering that is deteriorated and lacks the
weather resistive protection. Ms. Bohne stated that at the previous meeting it was discussed by
the Board that they did not want them to waste their money on covering the wall when it is going
to be torn down.
Boardmember Taylor confirmed that that discussion took place, but since the building is
going to be completely remodeled, and staff is working with her on that, they do not have to re-
side the walls. Boardmember Taylor asked Mr. Guerra what the other five corrections are.
Mr. Guerra stated that the October 7, 1998 letter referred to the garage and storage area
above the garage; plumbing and electrical installations in the garage; building exterior; window
broken; and driveway unpaved. Mr. Guerra stated that the property was inspected in May and
the owners asked to work through a number of alternatives to try and get through the building
process. Staff kept the project off the Rehab Board Agenda in an attempt to work with the
owners to resolve those issues. Mr. Guerra continued that based on the last hearing, it was
decided that it was necessary to put in writing everything that had been previously discussed.
Per the Board's direction, they were very specific on what was wrong with the bathroom, and the
other items that had to be done prior to occupancy of the addition. Mr. Guerra stated that all of
this was explained very clearly with the owners. In conclusion, Mr. Guerra stated that during
that inspection, the addition at the back of the garage was pointed out to Ms. Bohne.
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Boardmember Imperial asked what will be done to gain access to that property? Mr.
Imperial requested that the progress of this property be in writing and returned at the next
meeting.
Boardmember Taylor stated that one way to keep this project moving is to provide the
owners with the loan form.
Ms. Bohne stated that the Inspectors keep coming out to the property looking for more
violations.
Boardmember Imperial stated that the Building Department is obligated to look for
violations and for the owners to correct them. Mr. Imperial asked about the granting of an
occupany permit.
Mr. Guerra responded that the recommendation requires that when this project is
finished, everything will be in compliance with the Code. Mr. Guerra explained that they will
not be allowed to occupy the bedroom addition until they have corrected everything in the back
storage area.
Boardmember Taylor asked Ms. Bohne if she understood what the recommendation is.
Ms. Bohne responded that it is contrary to what was agreed upon at the last meeting. Ms.
Bohne stated that the new house will be constructed at the end of phase 2, however, the
discussion now is about phase 1. Ms. Bohne explained that phase 1 will involve moving the
bedroom and bathroom over so that the rest of the house can be demolished to enable them to dig
a basement. Ms. Bohne stated that she agreed previously that when they had a 2-bedroom, 2-
bath house, they would then remove the garage bathroom.
Boardmember Imperial related his experience in having to demolish his game room, and
that nothing is being asked of her that has not been asked of other owners. Mr. Imperial asked if
those requests were granted.
Robert Kress, City Attorney, stated that the Board did not take any formal action at the
last meeting. The Board provided direction. Staff was asked to meet with the property owner,
conduct the inspection, report on that inspection, and that is what is occurring tonight. Mr. Kress
explained that the Board is recommending tonight to go forward and within that recommendation
to allow the development of an agreement between the property owner, the proposed lender, and
the City that will allow for the removal of the Declaration of Substandard, conditioned upon the
agreed time line.
Ms. Bohne stated that there may be some misunderstanding as to when the garage
bathroom is to be moved.
Mr. Guerra clarified that their understanding and recommendation is based on the request
by the owner to build the bathroom and bedroom in the back of the existing house in
approximately a six month period, and at the end of that period, the substandard conditions
would be removed. The matter would no longer be before the Board, and the Board would no
longer be involved in the construction phase of the new house.
Boardmember Imperial suggested that staff meet with the owners as soon as possible to
inspect the property, and put their findings in writing. Mr. Imperial volunteered to meet with the
owners when staff meets with them.
MOTION BY BOARDMEMBER TAYLOR, SECOND BY BOARDMEMBER
IMPERIAL that staff meet with the owners, inspect the property, start the loan process, and have
this item returned at the next Rehab Appeals Board meeting. Vote resulted:
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Aye: Bruesch, Clark, Vasquez, Imperial, Taylor
No: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
Boardmember Bruesch requested that staff note their conversation and recommendations
in writing.
Mr. Guerra and Mr. Lyons asked Ms. Bohne if they can meet with her tomorrow
(Wednesday) at 6:00 p.m. •
Ms. Bohne answered yes.
A. 2722 DEQUINE AVENUE
There was no one in the audience representing this property.
James Guerra, Consulting Building Oficial, stated that there had been no changes.
MOTION BY BOARDMEMBER BRUESCH, SECOND BY BOARDMEMBER
TAYLOR that the Board find the property substandard and order that all substandarad conditions
be removed and/or corrected by December 1, 1999. However, if the required permits are
obtained, and sufficient progress is achieved by December 1, 1999, the abatement date may be
extended to January 1, 2000. Vote resulted:
Aye: Clark, Bruesch, Vasquez, Imperial, Taylor
No: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered.
HI. STATUS REPORTS
A. SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES
B. BUILDING REHABILITATION APPEALS BOARD
C. CITY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY REFERRAL UPDATE
The foregoing items on the Status Reports did not require any action.
IV. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS - None
V. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further action to be taken at this time, the meeting was adjourned at 7:50
p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled for October 26, 1999, at 7:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted: APPROVED:
Board Secretary CHAIRMAN
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