TC - Minutes - 02-02-23Minutes of the Regular
ROSEMEAD TRAFFIC COMMISSION MEETING
February 2, 2023
The regular meeting of the Rosemead Traffic Commission was called to order by Chair Orange at 7:00 p.m,
in the Council Chambers, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California.
FLAG SALUTE: Vice Chair Nguyen
INVOCATION: Commissioner Lang
PRESENT: Commissioner Hermosillo, Commissioner Lang, Commissioner Quintanilla, Vice Chair Nguyen
and Chair Drange
ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Public Works Chung, City Engineer Chan and Commission Liaison Nguyen
1. PUBLIC COMMENTS None
2. CONSENT CALENDAR
Chair Orange asked Traffic Commissioners if anyone would like to make revisions or additions to the
minutes of November 3, 2022.
Commissioner Hermosillo made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Quintanilla, to accept
consent calendar with revisions. Vote resulted in:
Yes: Hermosillo, Lang, Quintanilla, Nguyen, Drange
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
3. NEW BUSINESS
A. 3248 JACKSON AVENUE RED CURB TIPPING
Traffic Engineer Robbins introduced Associate Traffic Engineer Richter who provided a brief description of
the item and presented a PowerPoint presentation of the studies that were conducted.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter explained that the resident requested the City to conduct a traffic review
at 3248 Jackson Avenue due to vehicles parking too close to their driveway and the volume of traffic on
Jackson Avenue, they have difficulty exiting out of their driveway.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter explained as part of the traffic review, engineering staff looked at the
existing roadway conditions as well as an examination of guidelines within the CAMUTCD (California
Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices), CVC (California Vehicle Code) and the City of Rosemead's
curb marking policy and procedure. On behalf of the City of Rosemead, Associate Traffic Engineer Richter
recommended to install 2 feet of red curb on the east side of Jackson Avenue, on the north side of the
driveway at 3248 Jackson Avenue. The installation of red curb north of this driveway will ensure vehicles do
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not encroach into the resident's driveway and will increase visibility for residents backing onto Jackson
Avenue. The address curb numbering should also be removed and repainted outside of the red curb area.
Commissioner Lang asked if the red curb installation is only for the north side or for both north and south
side of the driveway.
Traffic Engineer Robbins clarified that in the staff report it indicated both north and south side for red curb,
however, it was removed from the recommendation since there is not enough space for a car to fit on the
south side and would add additional maintenance for the city.
Chair Drange asked about the possibly of a car parking at that space even though they would not fit.
Director of Public Works Chung replied it is unlikely since the curb space is only about 2 feet.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented that painting red curb on both sides makes it look more visible and
should not add much to the maintenance cost. He requested for it to be added.
Chair Drange agreed with Commissioner Quintanilla to amend the recommendation to have 2 feet of red
curb on both sides of the driveway.
Vice Chair Nguyen made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Hermosillo, to approve staff
recommendations. Vote resulted in:
Yes: Hermosillo, Lang, Quintanilla, Nguyen, Drange
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
B. 8449 GARVEY AVENUE TIME LIMITED PARKING REQUEST
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter provided a brief description of the item and presented a PowerPoint
presentation of the studies that were conducted.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter explained that the resident requested the City to conduct a traffic review
at 8449 Garvey Avenue due to parking concerns due to the number of cars going to the car garage & body
shop located at the northwest corner of the intersection.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter explained as part of the traffic review, engineering staff looked at the
existing roadway conditions, an examination of guidelines within the CAMUTCD (California Manual on
Uniform Traffic Control Devices), CVC (California Vehicle Code) and the City of Rosemead's curb marking
policy and procedure, as well as conducted a parking study on the north side of Garvey Avenue between
Earle Avenue and Willard Avenue to determine the existing parking conditions and patterns. On behalf of
the City of Rosemead, Associate Traffic Engineer Richter recommended that the decision be left to the
direction of the City, Traffic Commission, and City Council on what type of parking and curb markings should
be installed and enforced for this location.
Chair Drange asked to confirm if some of the businesses located on the first floor are still vacant.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter replied there are a few vacancies, however, the building owner is
planning to fill those spaces within the next few months.
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Chair Drange asked what kind of businesses they will be
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied one of the businesses will be a restaurant and another will be an office
space.
Chair Drange asked what kind of off street parking this building will have.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied this building will have underground parking and although she has not seen
the site plan, it is assumed it is parked to code with a specific number of parking spaces for commercial and
residential.
Director of Public Works Chung commented the development meets parking code requirements. He
explained the intent for the green curb is to help those businesses such as the restaurant with take out and
delivery orders.
Commissioner Lang asked if it is standard two hour street parking on Earle Avenue.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied yes, however, mentioned the street has a lot of parked vehicles due to
surrounding businesses.
Commissioner Hermosillo supported the timed parking as it would be beneficial for these local businesses to
have.
Vice Chair Nguyen commented any approved changes should be consistent with what is currently existing
across the street.
Chair Drange asked how many parking spaces will be provided in the front of the building.
Associate Traffic Engineer Richter replied one of the options was to determine how much green curb space
should be installed and it is assumed that 18 feet to 20 feet equates to one parking space.
Director of Public Works Chung added that it would be seven parking spaces if green curb was installed on
the entire frontage.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if the businesses are all retail.
Director of Public Works replied it will be retail and restaurants.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented most other cities usually have paid parking or timed parking for these
types of retail businesses.
Commissioner Lang asked what the purpose of 43 feet of red curb is for on the west side.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied it is for line of sight for vehicles coming out from Earle Avenue onto Garvey
Avenue.
Commissioner Lang commented he likes the idea of a loading zone closer to the fire hydrant side and
potentially green parking across the 141 feet of curb to provide quick access parking.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked for clarification on option 3.
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Traffic Engineer Robbins explained option 3 is at the discretion of the commission as to how many spaces
for green curb or time limited parking should be installed.
Traffic Engineer Robbins recalled the commission approved for 40 feet of green curb for two spaces across
the street.
Director of Public Works Chung commented it was option 3 with 10.12.070 for twenty -minute parking that
was implemented.
Traffic Engineer Robbins confirmed and added that the time restriction was for 7 AM to 6 PM except
Sundays and holidays.
Director of Public Works Chung asked if the developer or business owner discuss the time frame of the
twenty -minute parking.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied the owner wanted the entire frontage to be green curb and did not provide
that specific detail.
Commissioner Hermosillo is in favor of installing green curb for only a portion similar to across the street
and suggested two spaces.
Vice Chair Nguyen agreed with the two spaces.
Commissioner Lang asked if the remaining spaces would be two hour parking.
Director of Public Works Chung confirmed that to be correct.
Director of Public Works Chung asked if the restaurant is located on the east side or west side.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied the restaurant is located on the east side, the first space next to the motel.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if we know how many tentative tenants will be at this location.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied it appears to be about six small businesses, but it can depend on which
businesses want to come in.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented he does not think two spaces would be enough for a restaurant and
the other businesses.
Commissioner Lang agreed and commented having the frontage mostly green curb would help with delivery
and takeout orders.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented the amount of green curb available may economically impact the
restaurants depending on whether it is a fast casual restaurant or dine in setting.
Director of Public Works Chung mentioned the development will be a mix of restaurant and retail
Vice Chair Nguyen commented it the restaurant is a dine in setting, the twenty -minute parking would not be
enough time.
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Commissioner Lang mentioned there would still be underground parking.
Director of Public Works Chung confirmed there would be adequate onsite parking.
Commissioner Lang commented the green curb would just be for delivery and takeout orders.
Commissioner Lang commented the tenants would be able to park at those spaces after 7 PM for two
hours.
Chair Drange asked if the parking restriction would revert back to two hour parking during a specific time
frame or all day.
Director of Public Works Chung replied it would be two hour parking all day.
Traffic Engineer Robbins commented the two hour parking on that street indicates from 7 AM to 6 PM.
Chair Drange suggested a few spaces be green curb and once all the tenants have moved in, if additional
green curb is needed, it can be added.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if we know the number of spaces onsite.
Director of Public Works Chung replied we do not have that number, however, they the development will
have sufficient spaces per code.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if the item should be tabled or do an incremental approach with the limited
information provided.
Commissioner Hermosillo commented he is in favor of doing two spaces now and if additional green curb is
needed, it can be addressed later.
Commissioner Lang commented he would like it all green because the initial request of the business owner
was for the entire frontage and likely the owner is trying to attract a specific clientele downstairs. Having the
twenty -minute parking spaces may deter businesses such as a coffee shop from opening at this location.
Commissioner Quintanilla and Commissioner Hermosillo agreed.
Vice Chair Nguyen asked if there are only two green curb spaces across the street, would vehicles try to
park on the this side where there would now be more available spaces.
Chair Drange replied it would be unlikely as it would be difficult to cross the street in this area.
Commissioner Lang made a motion to install 141' of twenty -minute green curb with time limited
parking signage, seconded by Commissioner Quintanilla, to approve staff recommendations. Vote
resulted in:
Yes: Hermosillo, Lang, Quintanilla, Nguyen, Drange
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
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C. NEW AVENUE AT GRAVES AVENUE ALL -WAY STOP REQUEST
Chair Orange opened the public comment period.
The City received a Public Comment from Cristina Hargrow expressing gratitude to the City of Monterey
Park and the City of Rosemead for their due diligence in considering and evaluating the need for an all -way
stop at the intersection in order to maintain safety in the area for the students and residents.
The City received a Public Comment from Hing Chow expressing gratitude to the City of Rosemead for their
efforts in helping move forward with the request. He mentioned of a student who was hit by a car, and
although the student did not have any major injuries, this resulted in looking for a resolution to ensure the
safety of the children and residents.
The City received a Public Comment via email from Xiaobing Wu imploring to approve the request for an all -
way stop at the intersection for the safety of the students.
Chair Drange closed the public comment period
Traffic Engineer Robbins provided a brief description of the item and presented a PowerPoint
presentation of the studies that were conducted.
Traffic Engineer Robbins explained that the resident requested the City of Rosemead received a request
from the City of Monterey Park to review the traffic study they did for the location of New Avenue at Graves
Avenue. The request was for the installation of All -Way -Stop signs and striping improvements for the
intersection of South New Avenue and East Graves Avenue.
Traffic Engineer Robbins explained as part of the traffic review, engineering staff completed a full evaluation
of the intersection of New Avenue and Graves Avenue to see if existing conditions warrant the installation of
All -Way Stop Control at this intersection per the California Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices. As a
result of extensive field data collection and review, including reviewing all of the counts, line of sight,
roadway conditions and observations at this location, and engineering judgement, staff has determined that
the intersection of New Avenue and Graves Avenue would benefit from the installation of all -way STOP
control as determined by the guidelines in the California Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices
(CAMUTCD) Section 213.07 and the California Vehicle Code (CVC). In addition to all -way stop, Traffic
Engineer Robbins provided several other improvements that should be implemented.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if we know what improvements and changes the City of Monterey Park
approved for.
Chair Drange mentioned he attended a meeting at Monterey Vista Elementary School which discussed this
item and was informed the City of Monterey Park had approved for a stop sign or similar proposed
recommendations.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied the City of Monterey Park approved the report and recommendations as
proposed by their traffic engineers.
Commissioner Lang asked to clarify if the same proposed recommendations were approved.
Traffic Engineer Robbins clarified it is the same report from the City of Monterey Park and it is being
presented to the City of Rosemead to see if the city would be in support of the recommendations.
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Commissioner Hermosillo commented he would be concerned about modifying the proposed
recommendations as it would delay the process since it would need to go through three jurisdictions.
Commissioner Lang asked if there is data that supports the effective of "STOP AHEAD" signage.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied the recommendations are based on the standard guidelines in the
California Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (CAMUTCD).
Commissioner Lang asked where the incline is in the area.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied the incline is going west towards Pomelo Avenue.
Commissioner Lang asked if traveling from west to east on Graves Avenue, would the vehicle be gaining
speed.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied that is correct as you would be going downhill.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked for detail 2 on the proposed recommendations, if there is an option to
replace the red flags on the stop sign with solar powered flashing LED lights. He mentioned of a meeting a
few years ago that voted for the flashing LED stop sign and there were concerns that the residents residing
near the sign would complain, however, he did not recall any complaints come in after.
Traffic Engineer Robbins commented that each solar powered stop sign is $10,000, so it would cost
$30,000 for the intersection.
Chair Drange commented the City of Rosemead is only responsible for one stop sign, so the other
jurisdictions would have to agree to it.
Vice Chair Nguyen asked of the nine proposed recommendations on the list, which are Rosemead
impacted.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied we are only responsible for the northeast corner of the intersection, which
is only half of the crosswalk.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked if number 4 is within Rosemead jurisdiction.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied it would fall under Los Angeles County jurisdiction because it is within the
back of the sidewalk. Number 1 would be the only item that would be Rosemead.
Chair Drange asked what the back of the sidewalk means.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied it is right at the property line of the houses, which includes the sidewalk
and street.
Chair Drange asked if the stop sign belongs to Los Angeles County and if then we are just number 1 on the
diagram.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied that is correct.
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Vice Chair Nguyen advised the commission to not make any significant changes to the recommendations
Director of Public Works Chung asked if the red flags on the stop sign are temporary and only intended to
make drivers aware of the new stop sign, which the flags will later be removed.
Traffic Engineer Robbins replied that is correct.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented although the three stop signs are outside of Rosemead, he would still
like to see the addition of the solar powered flashing LED stop signs.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked what the next step is.
Director of Public Works Chung replied the item will be taken to the Los Angeles County board next month
and the City of Monterey Park will be leading the implementation.
Traffic Engineer Robbins confirmed that is correct if the item gets approved by all three jurisdictions.
Vice Chair Nguyen made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Lang, to approve staff
recommendation. Vote resulted in:
Yes: Hermosillo, Lang, Quintanilla, Nguyen, Orange
No: None
Abstain: None
Absent: None
4. MATTERS FROM STAFF None
5. COMMISSIONER REPORTS
Commissioner Lang on Temple City Boulevard heading southbound towards the 10 freeway, the paint is not
visible, usually the white line and yellow line.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked to revisit the traffic light signal timing at the intersection where Rio
Hondo Avenue, Mission Drive, and Valley Boulevard connect.
Chair Drange commented the traffic signal lights are difficult to see.
Director of Public Works Chung replied the lights are focused at a certain angle to avoid confusing drivers.
Chair Drange replied he gets confused while driving through and unsure whether it is green.
Director of Public Works Chung replied staff can evaluate the lights and asked Commissioner Quintanilla to
clarify what the issue is regarding the traffic timing.
Commissioner Quintanilla commented when he is on Rio Hondo Avenue, there is much more traffic queued
up heading northbound on Rio Hondo during the morning and night rush hours and it stays red even though
there is no cross traffic on Valley Boulevard. He mentioned the traffic light stays green most of the time on
Valley Boulevard.
Director of Public Works Chung replied staff can investigate.
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Director of Public Works Chung replied staff can investigate.
Chair Drange commented when going southbound on Walnut Grove Avenue approaching Hellman Avenue,
there is a 40 MPH sign and a speed radar sign about 15 feet behind it. He believes the speed radar sign
was meant for the school zone, which there is Willard Elementary School several blocks down the street
and does not think the placement makes sense.
Director of Public Works Chung replied staff can evaluate.
Commissioner Lang reported there is a broken corner on Rosemead Boulevard heading northbound just
after Valley Boulevard, right across the street from the Pasadena City College. He mentioned he submitted
the issue through the request application and was notified that it belongs to Caltrans.
Director of Public Works Chung replied this issue was reported by another resident and the message was
conveyed to Caltrans.
Commissioner Lang asked what the timeline is for the repair.
Director of Public Works Chung replied he does not have a schedule at this time, but can have the request
expeditated.
Commissioner Quintanilla asked what was broken at the comer.
Director of Public Works Chung replied the curb and gutter.
6. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:16 p.m. The next Traffic Commission meeting is scheduled for March 2,
2023, at 7:00 p.m. and will take place at the Rosemead City Hall, City Council Chambers, 8838 East
Valley Boulevard,
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