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RRA - 02-08-940 0 APPROVED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING CITY OF ROSEMEAD DATE ~ - ROSEMEAD REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FEBRUARY 8, 1994 BY_ 14 a The Regular Meeting of the Rosemead Redevelopment Agency was called to order by Chairman Bruesch at 7:05 p.m. in the Conference Room of City Hall, 8838 E. Valley Boulevard, Rosemead, California. The Pledge to the Flag was led by Agencymember Taylor. The Invocation was delivered by Agencymember Clark. ROLL CALL OF OFFICERS: Present: Agencymembers Clark, McDonald, Taylor, Vice-Chairman Vasquez, and Chairman Bruesch Absent: None The meeting was recessed at 7:06 p.m. for the purpose of meeting as the Rosemead Housing Development Corporation and was reconvened accordingly at 7:11 p.m. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: JANUARY 11, 1994 - REGULAR MEETING Agencymember Taylor asked that his comment on Page #8, 10th paragraph be clarified as follows: "I think the bond sale has created a slush fund and land banking is not a prudent way to spend the money." MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER TAYLOR, SECOND BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ that the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of January 11, 1994, be approved as clarified. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 1. RRA RESOLUTION NO. 94-02 - CLAIMS & DEMANDS The following resolution was presented to the Agency for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 94-02 A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF. ROSEMEAD ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS IN THE SUM OF $172,921.33 AND DEMANDS NO. 2976 THROUGH NO. 3000 MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER MCDONALD, SECOND BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ that Resolution No. 94-02 be adopted. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 2. RRA RESOLUTION NO. 94-03 - ALLOWING REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PAYMENT FOR THE 1993-94 SLURRY SEAL PROGRAM The following resolution was presented to the Agency for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 94-03 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS WITH RESPECT TO REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PAYMENT FOR THE FY 1993-94 SLURRY SEAL PROGRAM ON VARIOUS STREETS RRA 2-8-94 Page #1 • 0 MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD, SECOND BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ that Resolution No. 94-03 be adopted. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Agencymember Taylor stated he was in favor of the project but believed more of the streets should have been in the Agency portion of the City. 3. RRA RESOLUTION NO. 94-04 - ALLOWING REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PAYMENT FOR THE 1993-94 CONCRETE REPAIRS ON VARIOUS STREETS The following resolution was presented to the Agency for adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 94-04 A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF ROSEMEAD MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS WITH RESPECT TO REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PAYMENT FOR THE FY 1993-94 CONCRETE REPAIR PROJECT ON VARIOUS STREETS MOTION BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ, SECOND BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD that Resolution No. 94-04 be adopted. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. Agencymember Taylor stated he was in favor of the project but believed that more of the streets should be in the Redevelopment Agency project area and noted that no map had been included showing the locations of these items. 4. COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND AGENCY FOR CONCRETE REPAIRS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD, SECOND BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ that the Agency approve the agreement. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 5. COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND AGENCY FOR SLURRY SEAL AT VARIOUS STREETS MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD, SECOND BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ that the Agency approve the agreement. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 6. APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NO. 1 AND ACCEPTANCE OF WORK FOR THE ROSEMEAD PARK CONCESSION STAND AND RESTROOM PROJECT MOTION BY VICE-CHAIRMAN VASQUEZ, SECOND BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD that the Agency approve Change Order No. 1 and authorize filing of the Notice of Completion by the City Clerk. Vote resulted: RRA 2-8-94 Page #2 0 Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 7. REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION OF DEVELOPER AGREEMENT BETWEEN ROSEMEAD REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND DIAMOND SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER VERBATIM DIALOGUE FOLLOWS: VASQUEZ: Move the approval. McDONALD: Second. BRUESCH: Any discussion? I'm going to vote no on this because this seems to be again going against having what we have set as our criteria and this the third one here and it's going to go on and on and continue on until we have all 500 square feet businesses down there and I thought we were trying to stay away from that. TAYLOR: Mr. Chairman. I tend to agree with what you're saying but would you review the regulation. I do recall that they were putting it in the shopping centers. Is that what you're thinking of, the BRUESCH: Correct me if I'm wrong. We have in our mini-mall ordinance a minimum square footage of 1,000 feet, square feet. TAYLOR: I think that's correct. BRUESCH: One of the reasons why we put it in there was to make sure that they were large enough, that it would have a substantial business and also that we wouldn't have too many small ones that would affect the parking and as we all know down at Diamond Square there is a parking problem certain days and I just think that the more shops you have the more parking problems there's going to be so I'm dead set against this. I just think it's one of those things that's going to snowball on us. TAYLOR: I'd like a clarification on looking at the Exhibit A on the back of this information. What are all the small units that are listed in here like A-J. BRUESCH: Those are the food court. TAYLOR: But are these in fact separate pieces or separate agreements similar to what we have with...? BRUESCH: The agreement was made that the food court would be under different type of regulation because they were small businesses, they were the same type of food court that is being produced in most of the malls. TAYLOR: But in fact are they separate agreements? PETER LYONS, PLANNING DIRECTOR: If I may answer that question for you quickly. This floor plan shows the largest building on Diamond Square Center. When the project was originally approved through a development agreement between the City and the Agency and the developer, we approved this specific plan with those small food court spaces. So those if your question is are those separate leased spaces, they are. They're leased by separate every letter there is a separate tenant for a small food court kitchen with seating in the center. BRUESCH: The thinking is that you will basically have three, four possibly five in that area serving and preparing food. It's not an area for people to enter and shop and there is a difference there in my estimation. What I'm saying is that a lot of malls are in areas where they don't allow them to come up with the smaller retail shops RRA 2-8-94 Page #3 0 BRUESCH CONTINUES: are going to the rolling carts which is okay, I feel it's okay I just don't feel that if we continue to allow these things to be cut in half we're going to be having a terrific parking problem down there because you're each time you're adding one more business. TAYLOR: What's the difference between units 110-b, 110-a, 111-a, 111-b, 114-a, 114-b. Those were all approved on the original plan? LYONS: If I may again. Those spaces you refer to had been approved at our last discussion of this issue in December of 1991 I think it was and so the basis for this item is that the City entered into a development agreement between the City and the developers and now they would slightly like to modify that agreement as shown on the exhibit here, the floor plan, and to do that they have to come back and ask the Agency to modify it. If they're in agreement with it and the Agency's in agreement with it then that's the solution. It's just to clarify it, it's not a municipal code requirement, this is over an acre so that... FRANK G. TRIPEPI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: The mini-mall ordinance doesn't apply here. BRUESCH: I realize that. But it was an agreement that we were going to apply that standard. LYONS: And just quickly to answer Mr. Taylor's question is those were divided at the last request in 191, December of 191. BRUESCH: Point of information. About two months ago there was a real problem with parking down there and I understood that on Sunday especially there was parking was being leased to a church and people were being bused. Is that still the case on Sunday mornings? LYONS: You might want to ask that we have your question is is the parking area in Diamond Square being leased by a church? Which is off-site? BRUESCH: This is what I was told - people being bused down to the church and apparently they either were using the lot for parking or leasing the lot for parking and taking the parishioners down to the church. LYONS: Steve Zuckerman here he's the property manager of Diamond Square, might want to answer that question. ZUCKERMAN: That's unauthorized. That's not...it...what church was that? BRUESCH: I think the one down the street, Evergreen? TRIPEPI: I've never heard of it so it's the first I've heard. ZUCKERMAN: It's the first I've ever heard of it. It could be that since the shops are closed on Sundays they've used that but certainly without our knowledge. BRUESCH: They aren't closed. There's a lot of shops that are still open on Sunday and that was causing a real problem with the street parking on Sunday morning between the hours of 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. ZUCKERMAN: Where's Evergreen Church? BRUESCH: It's not Evergreen, it's the church that's up street on... LYONS: North of Garvey. BRUESCH: South. LYONS: South of Garvey. BRUESCH: South of Garvey on the west side. It's the one... RRA 2-8-94 Page #4 r r ZUCKERMAN: On San Gabriel? BRUESCH: Yeah. ZUCKERMAN: No. No agreements at all. BRUESCH: This is what was told to a couple of residents there and they called me up and said we can't even get into our own driveways because the on the street is so impacted by this and I had not heard about this until just that time when they mentioned it. Now, I've gone by there every Sunday and the parking is a problem on Sunday mornings. And that's why I just cannot go with adding more businesses down there until that parking problem is solved. It is a real definite problem. McDONALD: Mr. Chairman. I think the original agreement was during a time of a little more prosperity and I think what we're allowing here is to for two entrepreneurs to take two smaller areas than a larger one and I would just as soon see every one of our shopping centers as productive as this one and if it's a manner that we can do that and Steve makes sure that these things are quality people that go in there so you're not talking about a swap meet type of thing. These folks do a job when they go in. Entrepreneurs just, small entrepreneurs are the ones build communities like this and if that church is taking advantage of that we ought to look into it and make sure that that church doesn't take the shopping spots away from those people that are shopping in there. So, I would certainly approve something like this. I want to keep all our shopping centers flourishing as best they can in this type of people holding back their spending money. CLARK: I'd like to ask Mr. Zuckerman which shops you said were closed on Sunday? ZUCKERMAN: Sunday mornings, most of them open late is what I'm thinking so maybe they see an opportunity to but Bob, you're saying people are parking their cars here and then busing to the church? BRUESCH: Exactly. That's what was told to me by two people, three people that live across the street from the church and they got that from people who are exiting the cars. McDONALD: Maybe you can make a point of that Steve and make sure we check that on Sunday mornings to see if that is in fact, maybe that was one incident that happened for a particular Sunday but if it is ongoing that... ZUCKERMAN: Oh, yeah, no. CLARK: Can someone tell me what the size, minimum size on say the Montebello mall shops are? Do you have any idea? ZUCKERMAN: To be frank, I don't know. BRUESCH: We have that diagram. I think the smallest one is about 740, isn't it? LYONS: Well, if I may. They have a food court but then they have your standard spaces and I'm not sure either if they have them down to 500 or not. ZUCKERMAN: If I can take just a moment to present what I feel is our reasoning behind this. One thing if you would please look at the exhibit there's one small, I really wouldn't call it an error, it's an omission, and that is on space 116-b and 116-a there should also be a small line through that and if you look at that it's hard to appreciate from a two-dimensional diagram like this but what you'll see is really every space except for the corner entry spaces and the space we're talking about here are now the 500-foot format. We would never and I think we've mentioned this to Peter in the past that these are kind of sacrosanct, the 112 and the 113 because architecturally they're at the intersection of these two corridors but these other RRA 2-8-94 Page #5 • 0 ZUCKERMAN CONTINUES: spaces really all it would do is make the treatment consistent on both wings. The reason it wasn't asked for originally is we had a tenant in this space, from an architectural standpoint I really do think it makes sense and we discussed this when we first made this exception that these are actually fairly wide store fronts, they're not narrow little store fronts because normally what's referred to as the aspect ratio of a retail space has a fairly narrow front and then it goes back for two to three times its frontage and this still has a lot of frontage to depth. What have been successful in here someone mentioned that the smaller spaces may not thrive and it would be unwise not to to allow for smaller spaces, in fact we found the opposite, that in here it's people who aren't inventory intensive that seem to be able to make it. They don't have to pay a lot of rent. They don't need a lot of back room or storage area and they try to maximize the show space and so from a business standpoint we kind of have to rely upon what the market tells us. We can't try to be smarter than the market is and what we found is that the smaller spaces have greater staying power than the large space. And so really it's for that basis, we're just trying to meet what the market is telling us. BRUESCH: But we also have to think of what the traffic patterns, the parking patterns are... ZUCKERMAN: But it's the same amount, Mr. Bruesch, it's the same amount of area. We're not talking about adding floor space. BRUESCH: It doesn't matter. It's one more business, one more draw on people and it's one more draw on delivery trucks that ply the streets. As we put more businesses in one area it becomes a traffic-intensive situation and it is affecting the people that live around that area and I'm responding to complaints that have been made over the last three, four months consistently down there about the on-street parking and the fact that people are queueing up to go into that parking lot on Saturday and Sunday, sometimes three, four cars waiting to get into the parking lot. Now, right now I believe that there are too many businesses down there and I am definitely against putting any more in. I've been by there on Saturday and Sunday morning and seen the problems down there and there is not enough parking as it is. McDONALD: Mr. Chairman. Call for the question. BRUESCH: Question's been called for. Any further discussion? All in favor... Aye: Clark, Taylor, Vasquez, McDonald No: Bruesch Absent: None Abstain: None END OF VERBATIM DIALOGUE 8. AUTHORIZATION FOR ASSISTANT PLANNER TO ATTEND ANNUAL LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES REDEVELOPMENT SEMINAR IN SAN DIEGO, MARCH 11-12, 1994 MOTION BY AGENCYMEMBER TAYLOR, SECOND BY AGENCYMEMBER McDONALD that the Agency authorize the attendance of the Assistant Planner at this conference. Vote resulted: Aye: Clark, Taylor, Bruesch, Vasquez, McDonald No: None Absent: None Abstain: None The Chairman declared said motion duly carried and so ordered. 9. MATTERS FROM OFFICIALS A. CHAIRMAN BRUESCH 1. Asked that Item #7 be entered verbatim into the Minutes. RRA 2-8-94 Page #6 B. AGENCYMEMBER TAYLOR 1. Asked again for a copy of the resolution showing the expenditure of the Agency project funds. 10. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MATTERS A. Juan Nunez, 2702 Del Mar Ave., reported that asphalt repairs need to be made on San Gabriel Blvd., north of Rush Street. There being no further action to be taken at this time, the meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. to February 22, 1994, at 7:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted: u Ll/ ency Secretary RRA 2-5-94 Page #7